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Posted: 1/18/2013 8:58:47 PM EDT
I want to build or purchase(build seems cheaper) 2 - 5.45 and 2 - 7.62.

The Plum and Bakelite should be 5.45, correct?

The Russian Red and(looking for suggestions) should be 7.62, correct?

Should I buy Saigas and convert?

What is the proper hand guard etc. for a bakelite magazine?
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 10:22:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/18/2013 10:23:49 PM EDT by ArmedFerret]
Russians used Amber Shellac, never anything red. Anything you see advertised as "Russian Red" is a misnomer due to ignorance....either on the part of the seller, or the buyer. Either way, it's not what right looks like.


If you want to get an AK that has more of a classic Russian wood look to it, buy Russian wood. Don't become another victim of the "if we call it Russian Red that means it's an exact replica!" crowd. Please.
Link Posted: 1/19/2013 7:20:23 AM EDT
I have been down this road. I love me some Saiga conversion time. I suggest that if you do it, you do it all the way. Trigger guard, FSB, GB, lower HG rtetainer. I've done them from black poly to Russian laminate and everything in between. Here are a few examples.









Link Posted: 1/19/2013 9:54:14 AM EDT
Is all Russian AK's with Bakelite mags and hand guards folders?
Link Posted: 1/19/2013 10:29:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/19/2013 10:31:15 AM EDT by dfariswheel]
No.
The earlier Russian folders and standard rifles had wood, later they were polymer.

AK magazines are not Bakelite.
Bakelite is a phenolic resin mixed with a filler like saw dust.

The red magazines are made of a polymer called AG-4. It's some type of hard plastic.
Link Posted: 1/19/2013 10:40:31 AM EDT
Learn something new everyday. Total newb here.
Link Posted: 1/19/2013 11:40:32 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ArmedFerret:
Russians used Amber Shellac, never anything red. Anything you see advertised as "Russian Red" is a misnomer due to ignorance....either on the part of the seller, or the buyer. Either way, it's not what right looks like.


If you want to get an AK that has more of a classic Russian wood look to it, buy Russian wood. Don't become another victim of the "if we call it Russian Red that means it's an exact replica!" crowd. Please.


+1

its all in the shellac, variations in color range from honey - brownish red.

All depends on what Ivan mixed up that day
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:43:36 AM EDT
Anyone got a favorite for conversion parts and wood?
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 1:25:31 PM EDT
Originally Posted By NEXT23:
Anyone got a favorite for conversion parts and wood?


What kind of wood Do you want?

I would keep my eyes on the equipment exchange.

Lots of good stuff shows up there
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