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Posted: 7/20/2004 2:41:40 PM EST
Got an email from my moderator friend to check out this link about Jokin pokin another customer.

Looks like GunGoons are busy trying to silence another one of their members.

Jokin Pokin
Link Posted: 7/20/2004 2:45:50 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/20/2004 2:47:05 PM EST
Sadly as long as fools order from JOKEN, fools will get screwed.
Link Posted: 7/20/2004 2:50:20 PM EST
Another customer says quit Jokin me around!!

Give me my freakin money back!!
Link Posted: 7/20/2004 2:53:59 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/20/2004 3:00:06 PM EST
Yet another customer gets the royal Pokin from Jokin.

Where the hell is my order you SOB!!!!
Link Posted: 7/20/2004 3:04:53 PM EST
Looks like Jokin is just a garage instead of a real business/storefront.

Jokin refuses to let customer visit store
Link Posted: 7/20/2004 3:10:55 PM EST
Won't be long before Cockhunt comes along and bans anyone talking shit about his vendor (which I'm sure he gets kickbacks from).

Buyer Beware!!!!
Link Posted: 7/20/2004 3:13:55 PM EST
Course of action against Jokin.

Cockhunt please save us!!!
Link Posted: 7/20/2004 3:17:49 PM EST
Another pissed off customer.

Is anyone in the freakin store?!?!?!
Link Posted: 7/20/2004 3:21:31 PM EST
Appears Jokin may be giving up on their main supplier and going with Rapid Fire Ohio.

We are sorry for selling you crap, we will try to offer better products
Link Posted: 7/20/2004 3:25:23 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/20/2004 3:25:53 PM EST
You've got to be kidding me. Red Faction pads his post count (210 to 218) with accounts of poor service from Jokin?! Thank you, Mr. Obvious!
Link Posted: 7/20/2004 3:27:53 PM EST
Shit, just close up your garage and give it up!

I'm tired of you giving me bullshit lies!!!
Link Posted: 7/20/2004 3:41:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/20/2004 3:50:48 PM EST by Jicky]
Seem's like they would just do it right the first time instead of going thru this crap over and over again..Hell of a way to build up a on line buisness.....
Link Posted: 7/20/2004 3:52:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/20/2004 5:28:10 PM EST by Red_Faction]
Link Posted: 7/20/2004 3:54:42 PM EST

Best to give us at least snippets from the threads, as per usual goonsnet is down, or the threads have been deleted.
Link Posted: 7/20/2004 4:19:46 PM EST
Who fucking cares. If you are stupid enough to buy from this crook you get what you deserve.
Link Posted: 7/20/2004 4:26:03 PM EST

andrew@joeken.com wrote on 07-19-2004 08:42 PM:
It is against the rules of this site to SLANDER a company with false claims. I never received one PM from you about your order problem as you stated. I was out entertaining Veterans returning from Iraq the week you claimed to have talked to me on the phone. I am going to make sure you are prosecuted to the fullest extent legally for these false claims.




Thats all those idiots know how to do when they get their tits cought in the grinder, is file a slander lawsuit.... I just love it.. How in the hell is posting the truth about a bad company considered slander???

What I really love is how the head penial implant in charge tells his minions that they should not buy from the reputable companies we buy from, rather they should spend their money at Jokeing, on Hexxe garbage...hehehehe

Link Posted: 7/20/2004 5:01:16 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/20/2004 5:48:23 PM EST
I wonder if Joken operates of of a chicken coop ?
Link Posted: 7/20/2004 5:53:46 PM EST
And to think I was banned for bad mouthing them when my deal for mags went bad.
Link Posted: 7/20/2004 6:05:19 PM EST

Originally Posted By PM2790:
You've got to be kidding me. Red Faction pads his post count (210 to 218) with accounts of poor service from Jokin?! Thank you, Mr. Obvious!



Nothing but the facts.


Better Business Bureau Online


JOE KEN FIREARMS
410 E Second St.
Winslow, AZ 86047

Principal: Tom Fisco
Phone Number: 928-289-6429
Web Site Address: www.joeken.com


The information in this report has either been provided by the company, or has been compiled by the Bureau from other sources.

CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE

Based on BBB files, this company has an unsatisfactory record with the Bureau due to unanswered complaints.

REPORT DATE: 07/20/2004

COPYRIGHT DATE: 2004 The Better Business Bureau

STANDARD DISCLAIMER

As a matter of policy, the Better Business Bureau does not endorse any product, service, or company. BBB reports generally cover a three-year reporting period, and are provided solely to assist you in exercising your own best judgment. Information contained in this report is believed reliable but not guaranteed as to accuracy. Reports are subject to change at any time.

The Better Business Bureau reports on members and non-members. Membership in the BBB is voluntary. Members must meet and maintain BBB standards. If a company is a member of the BBB, it is stated in this report.


Link Posted: 7/20/2004 6:21:13 PM EST
Red Faction-
I know, I know. It makes you wonder how there is enough business to keep the doors open. People have been complaining for months and years.
Link Posted: 7/20/2004 6:32:29 PM EST
Still a few sr guys over on the other board but lots and lots of rooks. I still check in every now and then. ~ghtomrk
Link Posted: 7/20/2004 6:38:51 PM EST
Seems like every company associated with GunGoons has had a less than stellar reputation. Not to mention raping the general membership of money, parts, guns, etc.

I have a couple of good friends over there that have had just about enough of Cockhunt and his never ending membership drives.
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 2:31:10 AM EST
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 3:30:47 AM EST
That's just it if you just got into AK's you would never know...I hope this help's out some of the new guy's..Alway's good to do a little research...

Where the hell did my coffee go ?????? KIDS!!!!!!
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 7:47:52 AM EST

Originally Posted By AW4EVER:
Who fucking cares. If you are stupid enough to buy from this crook you get what you deserve.



Amen Brother!!!!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 7:52:46 AM EST
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 8:05:33 AM EST
They still aren't incorporated so they have exposure as individuals.


Pending File Inquiry
File Number: N11303616 Reservation Number: 55231
Corporation Name: JOEKEN FIREARMS,INC

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Designation Type: N NAME RESERVATION
Pending Type Code: R NAME RESERVATION
Location Code: P PHOENIX
Date Received: 04/26/04 Date Returned: ?
Approval Date: ?
Reason Returned: BLANK
Corp Type: User ID: TMPFIL06
Expedited Date: ? Expiration Date: 08/25/04

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Contact: EDWARD KENNETH EWBANK III
Address: 410 EAST SECOND STREET

WINSLOW, AZ 86047
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 8:31:48 AM EST
I get the feeling that they are running a ponzi scheme. They use the money from current orders to order merchandise to fill orders that have been placed months ago. A lot of complaints of CCs being charged the day of the order, yet the merchandise is not shipped for months if at all. Yet they have no problems putting ads in the Shotgun News. If the SGN got enough verifiable complaints from people being scammed, they would lose their right to advertise there under SGN's policy toward their advertisers.
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 8:58:17 AM EST
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Link Posted: 7/21/2004 10:08:07 AM EST
Joekein says they are going to offer OOW receivers, and ORF built AKs..

Now I know Todd and Mike and crew love to sell guns.. More sales = more money.. But I am not sure I would associate my company with Joekin.. That might be a bad move to make???
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 10:42:25 AM EST
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 11:46:09 AM EST
I ordered from them once, because they were the only outfit with wood 74 kits at the time, and it took about 6 weeks for the order to arrive. My CC was charged the day I ordered the kit. This all happened before the bad reveiws started to appear. Maybe they were deleted before I saw them.

I will not order from them again.
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 12:58:39 PM EST
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Link Posted: 7/21/2004 1:03:02 PM EST

Originally Posted By CAMPYBOB:

EDWARD KENNETH EWBANK III




So would he be "Joe" or "Ken"?
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 1:10:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By innocent_bystander:
And to think I was banned for bad mouthing them when my deal for mags went bad.



Yeah I got my head ripped off because I asked where my mags were! I didn't get banned but I wish I had.
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 1:12:44 PM EST

Originally Posted By TheRealSundance:
I ordered from them once, because they were the only outfit with wood 74 kits at the time, and it took about 6 weeks for the order to arrive. My CC was charged the day I ordered the kit. This all happened before the bad reveiws started to appear. Maybe they were deleted before I saw them.

I will not order from them again.



I ordered a Polish PMKMS kit from them because they were giving a forum discount at you know where. My CC was charged the day of the order. The kit showed up seven and a half weeks later.
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 1:13:18 PM EST
So THATS where a certain company doing (is it finally finsihed yet?) a group buy learned to do business.
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 1:22:07 PM EST
Heh, Joeken stuff is always fun to watch!
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 3:25:37 PM EST
Looks like the jokin sales rep has been doing understudy work for the Navy Seal. Threatening somebody with a slander lawsuit for them voicing their suspicions is not slander! Gee, didn't the fake seal do that also? And I think the Gouch also tried that trick a number of times! I guess I'm gonna have to contact the BBB and turn in my story to add to their collection. Jokin promised me a 7.95 discount, then promply ADDED it to my total, instead of subtracting it from the total. That was back in Oct or Nov. Still no refund of the overcharge.

OJF
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 6:22:07 PM EST
Make sure you guys log in to .nutz and post your bad feedback under jokin's trader rating. Every month or so all the negatives get purged and I have to post negative feedback again. But at least it will warn some folks.
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 7:03:26 PM EST
Hell, I thought it was pretty sad that they had to start a thread about the deals they didn't F up.
Hey, look at us we got a couple right!!!
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 9:42:24 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/22/2004 6:51:11 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/30/2004 6:00:11 AM EST
Check out the links above and see how many have been deleted !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If that's not a major cover-up, I don't know what is............
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