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Posted: 8/26/2003 12:02:25 PM EDT
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If the scope rail is mounted on the weapon, then the Kobra mounts to that. The SAR-1 & 2 come with the rail attached, and I'm assuming the SAM 7 does too.
Nothing else to buy but the Kobra. As long as you got the standard AK mount model. |
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Posted: 8/26/2003 12:28:32 PM EDT
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Only the SAM-7(S) has a scope mount.
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Posted: 8/26/2003 1:23:03 PM EDT
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Guess I'm not understanding. From what the Reps at AIM said, the guns come with a rail mount but no rail. I don't know if that makes any sense. The SAM 7S information say two things. The Arsenal site says it comes with a mount but the Guns N Stuff sight says it comes with a rail that is precisioned laser aligned. Are the words "rail" and "mount" used interchangeably? Thanks.... |
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Posted: 8/26/2003 1:24:26 PM EDT
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The guys at AIM say the SAR-1 and SAR-2 come with the mounts. Is that not the same thing as rails? Are we haveing a nomenclature problem. I guess I should say "I" am having a nomenclature problem.... |
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Posted: 8/26/2003 1:31:59 PM EDT
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SAM-7S, SAR-1 and SAR-2 all have a scope mount/rail on the left side of the receiver. Semantics problem. If your Kobra has a weaver base then you are going to need an additional mount to attach the Kobra to the rail. Some Kobras have this mount attached to them and are designed to attach directly to the rail on the side of the receiver.
The non (S) SAM-7 does not have the rail. |
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Posted: 8/26/2003 2:02:34 PM EDT
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i.b., i think you meant LEFT side of the receiver.
all the romanian ak's imported to date have the optic mounting plate (aka "rail") riveted in place from the factory in cugir, romania. the sa-m7 has NO optic mounting plate from the factory. the sa-m7s DOES have the optic mounting plate tiveted on from the factory. none of the above rifles include a scope mount. the scope mount slides onto the optic mounting plate and locks in place. the scope mounts are integral in the construction of russian/com bloc scopes and separate weaver/picatinny rail mounts are available for use with conventional rings/scopes. |
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Posted: 8/26/2003 2:34:06 PM EDT
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Left/right it's all the same! Oops.
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Posted: 8/26/2003 3:26:13 PM EDT
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Thanks, If I'm not mistaken, Yuri from Freedom Optics said it had everything I need. I guess I'm going to find out... |
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Posted: 8/26/2003 3:35:01 PM EDT
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Thanks for clarifying this situation. I figured it was something like that. So each rifle has mounting plates and if you want a weaver scope you have to have a special mount. Russian Optics, like Kobra, are designed to mount right on the plate... This is what I thought, based on my readings. The distributors just threw me by using the words "rail" and "mount" interchangeably. Your sage advice is always welcome.... |
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Posted: 8/26/2003 3:43:44 PM EDT
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montag (farenheit 451?), i think you got it!
yes, there are several outfits that sell scope 'mounts'...if you want to use rings/scope other than the russian/belarussian military types. these run from $40 to $100, depending on model and reseller....basically about 3 different types. russian optics with integral mount sell from $79-$500 and are the route most folks choose. |
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Posted: 8/27/2003 12:53:48 AM EDT
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Oh no, not another reader! And an iconoclast to boot, if I read your other posts correctly. Been online for nearly 15 years and nobody in the "highbrow" newsgroups or elists ever picked up on the name. But once I join a couple of AK boards, where the press says neaderthals hang out, I suddenly find people who actually read and can REMEMBER what they read. This happened on the "other" AK board as well. If this keeps up people are going to have to change their stereotypes.. God Forbid!! The most dangerous weapon in the world. An intelligent man with an Ak-47... Yikes! |
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Posted: 8/27/2003 4:16:13 AM EDT
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hehehe! yes, montag (the character) and i are both iconoclasts!
i'll bet it's been 30 years or more since i read that book. don't get me started on all the 'subversive' literature i read in the '60's and '70's or we'll never get back to kalashnikovs!!! |
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Posted: 8/27/2003 8:09:25 PM EDT
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Ok.. Let's see what we have here.. Reads subversive literature... Seems to have above average intelligence... Enjoys firing AK's... Lives in a secluded location..... hmmm... Is your real name Kaczynski and have you written any manifestos? Remind me not to have you send me anything in the mail!!! hock.gif |
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Posted: 8/28/2003 4:01:14 AM EDT
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lol!
Reads subversive literature... only technical literature these days, sadly. boring specifucations, bills of materials, assembly/disassembly procedures, design drawings...all more boring than watching the mast gimbal getting calibrated. Seems to have above average intelligence... i can provide the names of thousands of people that will catagorically disprove that statement! Enjoys firing AK's... and my beloved rimfires! Lives in a secluded location..... well, it's merely 'rural'...but we do enjoy having a rifle range next to the pasture! the most 'radical' activity i take part in these days is crashing a road racing bicycle at 30mph. hmmm,...i guess for a man of my age, that is a pretty radical agenda! hmmm... Is your real name Kaczynski and have you written any manifestos? no, rotdorn and hbarski are related to that pole...and the only manifestos i ever wrote were those hysterical posts railing against ho dung rant and the faux seal, dthor/beauxhunt, back on ak-47.nutz! |
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Posted: 8/28/2003 5:03:43 AM EDT
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Enjoys firing AK's... and my beloved rimfires!
And older, low-tech vehicles. Fond of Tannerite. Strong opinions spread far to recruit others to the cause, with plenty of room for hidden messages in his rants. Smells like Al-Qaeda to me... |
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Posted: 8/28/2003 5:42:53 AM EDT
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.......and what about his feelings on Shimano?
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