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Posted: 7/29/2005 2:10:08 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/29/2005 2:34:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/29/2005 2:35:02 PM EDT by tapeo1]
Oooo... that evil marijuana!!!
Link Posted: 7/29/2005 3:41:07 PM EDT
Somebody say pot and guns?

Link Posted: 7/29/2005 3:44:35 PM EDT
Looks like an Afghan pic....wonder how much they smoke after operations
Link Posted: 7/29/2005 3:58:50 PM EDT
Lumpy's photo post for today has Bulgarian Drug guys with AKs making convicts destroy fields of marijuana.

ben
Link Posted: 7/29/2005 4:04:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fadedsun:
Lumpy's photo post for today has Bulgarian Drug guys with AKs making convicts destroy fields of marijuana.

ben



link?
Link Posted: 7/29/2005 4:10:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/29/2005 7:25:03 PM EDT by Templar]

Originally Posted By Kevin_M4:

Originally Posted By fadedsun:
Lumpy's photo post for today has Bulgarian Drug guys with AKs making convicts destroy fields of marijuana.

ben



link?



www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=374497

Ben


*edit by Templar to hotlink*
Link Posted: 7/29/2005 5:58:12 PM EDT
Brings back some old memories!
Link Posted: 7/29/2005 6:40:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Kevin_M4:
Somebody say pot and guns?

www.picyard.com/main/data/500/11pot_guns.jpg


Guy with the M4 resembles Mel Gibson...kinda.
Link Posted: 7/29/2005 7:08:23 PM EDT
The guy with the M4 looks pretty darn "Gringo" North American to me. i.e. U.S. citizen.
Link Posted: 7/29/2005 8:26:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JOHNO:
Brings back some old memories!



"What remind you of you're days with the DEAD rabbit?????"
Super Trooper's movie Haha.....
Link Posted: 7/29/2005 8:26:23 PM EDT
"Ukrainian special forces (L) stands guard while a convict destroys illegal marihuana plants in Snezhnoe"

Ukrainian, Bulgarian... they both end in 'ian'... close enough :)

Link Posted: 7/29/2005 8:35:25 PM EDT
Did the Ukranian police ever get the memo that says they have to sell that weed in order to get paid this month?
Link Posted: 7/29/2005 8:43:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Jicky:

Originally Posted By JOHNO:
Brings back some old memories!



"What remind you of you're days with the DEAD rabbit?????"
Super Trooper's movie Haha.....




IT'S CAR RAMROD!

Farva.

ben
Link Posted: 7/29/2005 11:29:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Kevin_M4:
Somebody say pot and guns?

www.picyard.com/main/data/500/11pot_guns.jpg




Looks like Bulgarian (notice the Bulgarian AK74 with brown magazine) guy, probably SF based on his flight suit, and American SOF, based on his equipment (SPEARS/BALCS body armor is dead give away).
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 7:41:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Jicky:

Originally Posted By JOHNO:
Brings back some old memories!



"What remind you of you're days with the DEAD rabbit?????"
Super Trooper's movie Haha.....

Jicky,I used to be on a raid team.We eradicated alot of weed.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 8:59:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By JOHNO:

Originally Posted By Jicky:

Originally Posted By JOHNO:
Brings back some old memories!



"What remind you of you're days with the DEAD rabbit?????"
Super Trooper's movie Haha.....

Jicky,I used to be on a raid team.We eradicated alot of weed.



Why?
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 9:40:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By tapeo1:

Originally Posted By JOHNO:

Originally Posted By Jicky:

Originally Posted By JOHNO:
Brings back some old memories!



"What remind you of you're days with the DEAD rabbit?????"
Super Trooper's movie Haha.....

Jicky,I used to be on a raid team.We eradicated alot of weed.



Why?

Why not,it was my job.I did'nt make the laws but I risked my life to enforce them.Some People don't see anything wrong with smoking weed,some People don't see anything wrong with cooking meth.I'm not going into all of the nasty places my job took me,but I've seen the long term effects of drug use on People and I don't wish that on anyone.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 9:45:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/30/2005 9:45:48 AM EDT by PBIR]


www.picyard.com/main/data/500/11pot_guns.jpg
Guy with the M4 resembles Mel Gibson...kinda.



dvd burners forced him to get a day job.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 9:53:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/30/2005 9:53:57 AM EDT by RiffRandall]
I thought hemp production (for canvas, paper, rope) was OK in eastern Europe? Though IIRC those plants look like they're more for smoke than the tall tree-like low THC hemp plants. You could smoke an entire acre of the fiber production weed & only get a bad headache, no buzz.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 10:21:05 AM EDT
Those are Hash plant marijuana....short stocky plants....they dont really smoke weed over there....they make hash out of it to smoke. The huge tall plants you see(which dont grow in that part of the land) are Sativa. Hash plants are Indica. Schools out boys and girls.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 3:19:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By OldTroop:
Those are Hash plant marijuana....short stocky plants....they dont really smoke weed over there....they make hash out of it to smoke. The huge tall plants you see(which dont grow in that part of the land) are Sativa. Hash plants are Indica. Schools out boys and girls.



Any idea on how they collect the resins from the plants to make hash? I think I heard once that they send people through the fields with special clothes on and then scrap the resin from the clothing. Don't know if that's true or not though.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 3:30:54 PM EDT
tapeo theres 2 ways they make hash. One they rub the flowers in the palm of there hands and the resins builds up pretty quick. Then the roll it into balls to dry. the other way is to let the plant dry then rub the plants on a real fine mesh cloth and the resins fall thru, they mix a little water with it t make it stick together. they use the first method in that part of the world...Lebanon and the surropunding areas use the second method. Theres no way anybody could run thru a field of 3 foot tall plants(they would have to be midgets) and get the resins built up on any type of clothing LOL. Thats a BS story from someone who just doesnt know or is just plain stupid. Its strictly a done by hand job(Ok no jokes :))
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 4:39:10 PM EDT
Thanks for info Old Troop. Yeah running through the fields story sounded a little far fetched to me when I heard it. Damn those stoners... they just can't get their stories straight!
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 4:52:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By tapeo1:
Thanks for info Old Troop. Yeah running through the fields story sounded a little far fetched to me when I heard it. Damn those stoners... they just can't get their stories straight!



Thats it? They can't even get their own lives straight!

Ben
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 5:19:06 PM EDT
Hey, some people like that life and love to wrry about having their crops takem by the DEA or the Russian version.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 5:30:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/30/2005 5:31:00 PM EDT by tapeo1]

Originally Posted By fadedsun:

Originally Posted By tapeo1:
Thanks for info Old Troop. Yeah running through the fields story sounded a little far fetched to me when I heard it. Damn those stoners... they just can't get their stories straight!



Thats it? They can't even get their own lives straight!

Ben



Not entirely true. I've got a good friend who smokes fairly often and is currently getting his PhD at Columbia, married, Fullbright Scholar, speaks fluent madrin chinese and german (he's a whitey originally from southern IL), etc. Let's take a good look at what alcohol can do to people's lives.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 5:31:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JOHNO:

Originally Posted By Jicky:

Originally Posted By JOHNO:
Brings back some old memories!



"What remind you of you're days with the DEAD rabbit?????"
Super Trooper's movie Haha.....

Jicky,I used to be on a raid team.We eradicated alot of weed.



I remember you mentioning it awhile back..That's why I quoted that Super Trooper movie line.. Something similar was said in it and they were all cop's..You'd just have to have seen it..I wasnt implying that you do drug's or anything illegal..Peace
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 6:24:52 PM EDT
Personally I have nothing against it. Its a waste of tax payers money to fill up the jails with pot smokers. Alcohol cause 1000 times the problems of pot........get rid of booze. Some of you confuse "stoners" with people who get up everyday and go to work. Plus the medical benefits are proven and many. Smoking weed has never killed anybody....you cant over dose on it. Its a damn weed for gods sake...smoke all that shit you can.......keep the weed population down
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 7:27:29 PM EDT
Hey Jicky,I got a laugh out of your reply,no harm done.

Tapeo,There are People who can handle it and there are many more who can't,I've known People who could use Crank as a tool.They used it to stay alert and when they had the chance to get some sleep they could,at the same time I knew People who could'nt function without it.One of the big problems with Pot is you don't always know where it came from,what its laced with and who is profiting from it.

Oldtroop,I don't know of anyone who has died from smoking Pot either,but I've seen alot of People completely ruin their lives with it.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 7:41:13 PM EDT
Did they ruin their lives just smoking pot.....or were they into taking any damn thing they can get their hands on. Ive never in my life met one person who "ruined" thier lives smoking weed. Ive seen alcohol ruin peoples lives. As for pot ruining someones life...theres a hell of alot more to it than that. They would probably be failures no matter what they choose to do. Those type of people will use any drug available...just because they smoke weed dont say its weed that ruined their lives.....its the speed and other chemicals that ruin their lives. If the guy is an alcoholic and smokes weed....its not the weed that does them in...its the alcohol. Dont forget...our president was a drug user.....and when I say drug user I dont consider pot a drug, but George was into speed and coke....the real drugs.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 7:57:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/30/2005 8:04:31 PM EDT by JOHNO]
Oldtroop,I'm not going to debate this with you,you obviously have strong feelings about Pot and I dis-agree.The best we can do is agree to dis-agree and leave it there.I will tell you a couple of ways I've seen People ruin their lives because of their dependence on Pot smoking.Many of them were,as you suspected,loosers who were in a high speed downhill spiral anyway.A few were professional People who lost very good jobs due to random drug tests,and a few more were actually involved in Industrial accidents,drug tested,failed and fired.Its hard to get a decent job with with a drug conviction or a documented drug offense.
As for GW Bush,I seriously doubt he still does coke and speed.We all have a past,myself included.

Link Posted: 7/30/2005 8:20:27 PM EDT
Johno, I'm going to agree with you in that no one should be under the infulence of any drug be it pot, alcohol (yes, it is a drug and and physically addictive one at that), herion, or even cold medicine while doing industrial jobs, flying airplanes, air traffic controllers, etc. I am going to agree with Old Troop however in the comparison of alcohol to marijuana. There is no comparison to be made. Alcohol is a far more serious drug period.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 8:27:49 PM EDT
True,and around here,DUI is a serious offense,and alcohol is also detected in random drug tests.The big difference between alcohol and pot is,alcohol is legal and as I stated earlier,I did'nt make the laws it was just my job to enforce them.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 9:01:42 PM EDT
YA.........I vas jus followink orders. Hum does that sound like youve heard it before.....Johno....Im just messin with you but whenever I hear those words I shudder, we all should.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 9:08:05 PM EDT
Johno, I'm certainly not blaming you for this country's f*cked up "drug war". I do understand your position and that it's your job.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 9:10:03 PM EDT
=)-- ~~~
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 2:31:00 AM EDT

It being your job is not an excuse. There is no legal provision in the constitution for the criminalization of marijuana (or other drugs.) Thus they are rights "retained by the people or the states".

So, any fed who works in the drug war, is violating people's rights whenever he busts them.

Violating people's constitutional rights, however, when done under "color of law" is a felony.

I think its appropriate to condemn criminals who waste time destroying people's lives, and the call it "just doing their jobs".

Its just as criminal as the ATF weenies who take guns away from people and arrest people for legal firearms.
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 5:14:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/31/2005 5:31:06 AM EDT by JOHNO]

Originally Posted By DonGalt:
It being your job is not an excuse. There is no legal provision in the constitution for the criminalization of marijuana (or other drugs.) Thus they are rights "retained by the people or the states".

So, any fed who works in the drug war, is violating people's rights whenever he busts them.

Violating people's constitutional rights, however, when done under "color of law" is a felony.

I think its appropriate to condemn criminals who waste time destroying people's lives, and the call it "just doing their jobs".

Its just as criminal as the ATF weenies who take guns away from people and arrest people for legal firearms.

Damn Don,thats an intersesting way of looking at things!So you think that every LEO and DEA agent in this Country should be arrested,prosecuted and sent to prison for Constitutional Rights Violations?Have you ever thought about moving to Amsterdam?

I'm not actively involved in Law Enforcement anymore,but you have me thinking about going back in.Sounds like there is still alot of work to be done.
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 7:38:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/31/2005 7:53:51 AM EDT by jugrunner]
... ... ... Calm down now !! ...
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 7:50:09 AM EDT
Note to self..
1. Dont discuss drug issue's..
2. Dont discuss religious issue's..
3. Dont discuss political issue's..



Huh three D....................
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 7:53:30 AM EDT
DonGalt is nothing more that a DU lover that makes his rounds on all the discussion boards to sow his hate toward the establishment. He hates the government, the military, law enforcement, and anyone that supports the belief that our country needs a wakeup call and a return to morals commensurate with a law-abiding, God fearing country. He's the type that wants to lay the blame for 9-11 on the shoulders of the American People, not the fanatics that were actually responsible.

As a 4 year veteran of the US Army, I take offense to any comment against the military that he makes.

Link Posted: 7/31/2005 7:57:47 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 7:59:12 AM EDT
I am very Liberal on some issues and a Staunch Conservative on other issues ...

I'm not a Damn Democrat on anything !! ...
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 8:01:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RS39:

Originally Posted By jugrunner:
... ... ... Calm down now !!



Hey! Has some partying helped you come to terms with that funny pistol grip?

Whatever man, it's cool.
[Henry Rollins]Don't justify your complacency to me!



I must admit ... I party to forget ... It's just not working !!! ...
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 8:15:46 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Red_Faction:
DonGalt is nothing more that a DU lover that makes his rounds on all the discussion boards to sow his hate toward the establishment. He hates the government, the military, law enforcement, and anyone that supports the belief that our country needs a wakeup call and a return to morals commensurate with a law-abiding, God fearing country. He's the type that wants to lay the blame for 9-11 on the shoulders of the American People, not the fanatics that were actually responsible.

As a 4 year veteran of the US Army, I take offense to any comment against the military that he makes.



hope you enjoyed making me shudder
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 9:10:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By jugrunner:
I am very Liberal on some issues and a Staunch Conservative on other issues ...

I'm not a Damn Democrat on anything !! ...

Very well said!
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 9:44:55 AM EDT
Well guys I didnt really start the thread as a pro-anti stance on anything.....I thought the photo with the front sight of the krinkov showing was pretty cool. I am pro marijuana...Im against all chemical drugs. Now that we have that straightened out does any body else have any cool pics of soldiers/freedom fighters with AKs and its variants.
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 10:41:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/31/2005 10:46:31 AM EDT by Jicky]

Originally Posted By Red_Faction:
DonGalt is nothing more that a DU lover that makes his rounds on all the discussion boards to sow his hate toward the establishment. He hates the government, the military, law enforcement, and anyone that supports the belief that our country needs a wakeup call and a return to morals commensurate with a law-abiding, God fearing country. He's the type that wants to lay the blame for 9-11 on the shoulders of the American People, not the fanatics that were actually responsible.

As a 4 year veteran of the US Army, I take offense to any comment against the military that he makes.




Thanks for the troll alert..Good to hear from you Red you been busy??? Havent seen you in awhile...

ETA Thanks for the pic Old Troop it is a cool pic..
And Kevin as well nice pic..
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 10:46:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By jugrunner:
I am very Liberal on some issues and a Staunch Conservative on other issues ...

I'm not a Damn Democrat on anything !! ...



All the more reason why we should all be Libertarians! Honestly, I'm surprised that the Libertarian party hasn't grown in size. There seems to be plenty of disillusioned conservatives and liberals out there that could fill their ranks.
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 10:48:54 AM EDT
Oh boy.. I'm gonna go get popcorn, better yet I'm going shooting see ya'll in another thread...
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