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Link Posted: 12/7/2013 9:42:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Dragynn:


Regardless, I wouldn't buy from Classic, do a search here on site and on other forums, plenty of info, you might get a fine gun, and you might not, if you don't, they aren't going to give you any kind of customer service, in fact they'll be pretty crappy about the whole thing. Caveat emptor.
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Originally Posted By UrbancommandoX:
Originally Posted By GuidoFL:
Try Classic Arms.

http://www.classicfirearms.com/m90b1akrifleblackpoly76239

$499. w/poly furniture.


Says built on the serbian platform but us made barrel. That mean cheap green mountain crap? Also is that m70b1 a o or n pap?


Regardless, I wouldn't buy from Classic, do a search here on site and on other forums, plenty of info, you might get a fine gun, and you might not, if you don't, they aren't going to give you any kind of customer service, in fact they'll be pretty crappy about the whole thing. Caveat emptor.



Still wondering
Link Posted: 12/8/2013 9:31:10 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 4:38:26 PM EST
Zastava O-PAPs back in stock at Aim

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1CAKO-PAP
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 11:26:21 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/16/2013 10:51:29 AM EST
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My experiences with Classic have all been good. They had WW send a UPS pick up label as soon as I told them my Waffen Werks AK 74 had a canted front sight.

But I learned and my new AK 74 is a converted Saiga. Can't beat the converted Saiga for $650


Link Posted: 12/18/2013 6:19:08 PM EST
CNC Warrior PAP-92 carbine with fake can and buttstock, $589.99 : http://www.cncwarrior.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=26229
Link Posted: 12/18/2013 7:07:25 PM EST

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Originally Posted By Dragynn:


CNC Warrior PAP-92 carbine with fake can and buttstock, $589.99 : http://www.cncwarrior.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=26229
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It's hard for me not to order one right now. Thanks for the heads up.

 
Link Posted: 12/20/2013 8:38:01 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/20/2013 8:39:31 AM EST by Crsswift70]
I think these just came back in stock. GP1975's and WASR's for $499. Yeah i know, more than they used to be. http://www.jgsales.com/-c-209_214.html?stID=140
Link Posted: 12/21/2013 10:13:50 PM EST
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Link Posted: 12/24/2013 7:24:48 PM EST
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Link Posted: 12/24/2013 7:44:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Dragynn:
Yugo PAP 92 pistols back in stock at J&G, $399.95 : http://www.jgsales.com/yugo-zastava-pap-m92pv-ak-style-pistol,-krinkov-pattern,-7.62x39,-wood-stock,-new.-p-57965.html
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Picked up one yesterday.  For those who want one don't think about it too long.  Had 375 on 12/22.  Down to 288 already.
Link Posted: 12/27/2013 5:25:15 PM EST
Arsenal Inc SLR106-47 Saiga AK-74 Krink Pistol 5.56mm 7in black, $ 787.87 at Kentucky Gun Co., looks like that's the cash price so I guess CC price is $811.51, does include free shipping though:

http://www.kygunco.com/arsenal-inc-slr106-47-saiga-ak-74-krink-pistol-556mm-7in-30rd-black-64114

Link Posted: 12/31/2013 5:32:02 AM EST
Read about this on another site.  Npap with the black synthetic stock at Firearmsforsale.com for $432 shipped if use code  "five-off".
Link Posted: 12/31/2013 7:48:27 AM EST
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Originally Posted By WTex:
Read about this on another site.  Npap with the black synthetic stock at Firearmsforsale.com for $432 shipped if use code  "five-off".
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Thanks.  I didn't need another PAP but I couldn't pass up $432.20 delivered.  Now I'll have an N to go with my O.  I assume military surplus furniture will be a drop in fit?
Link Posted: 12/31/2013 4:58:19 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/31/2013 6:23:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mtel:

Picked up one yesterday.  For those who want one don't think about it too long.  Had 375 on 12/22.  Down to 288 already.
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Originally Posted By mtel:
Originally Posted By Dragynn:
Yugo PAP 92 pistols back in stock at J&G, $399.95 : http://www.jgsales.com/yugo-zastava-pap-m92pv-ak-style-pistol,-krinkov-pattern,-7.62x39,-wood-stock,-new.-p-57965.html

Picked up one yesterday.  For those who want one don't think about it too long.  Had 375 on 12/22.  Down to 288 already.

One more heads up on this deal too.  Down to 35 in stock.  

Not saying they won't be re-stocked.  Just sometimes you never know and at what price.
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Link Posted: 1/2/2014 1:00:46 PM EST
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Anybody have one of these? I see they raised the price overnight..is this still a good rifle? I'm not expecting a safe queen, but what about reliability and function of Serbian built Century AK's? I am by no means an AK expert, but I do have a new Arsenal 107, and I was thinking this would make a good truck gun...what say the hive?
Link Posted: 1/2/2014 2:55:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Back-Up:



Anybody have one of these? I see they raised the price overnight..is this still a good rifle? I'm not expecting a safe queen, but what about reliability and function of Serbian built Century AK's? I am by no means an AK expert, but I do have a new Arsenal 107, and I was thinking this would make a good truck gun...what say the hive?
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Originally Posted By Back-Up:



Anybody have one of these? I see they raised the price overnight..is this still a good rifle? I'm not expecting a safe queen, but what about reliability and function of Serbian built Century AK's? I am by no means an AK expert, but I do have a new Arsenal 107, and I was thinking this would make a good truck gun...what say the hive?


I do, but it's without the stock and fake can. It's one of my favorite guns to shoot. Is built well IMHO
Link Posted: 1/2/2014 5:55:10 PM EST
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Anybody have one of these? I see they raised the price overnight..is this still a good rifle? I'm not expecting a safe queen, but what about reliability and function of Serbian built Century AK's? I am by no means an AK expert, but I do have a new Arsenal 107, and I was thinking this would make a good truck gun...what say the hive?
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Originally Posted By Back-Up:



Anybody have one of these? I see they raised the price overnight..is this still a good rifle? I'm not expecting a safe queen, but what about reliability and function of Serbian built Century AK's? I am by no means an AK expert, but I do have a new Arsenal 107, and I was thinking this would make a good truck gun...what say the hive?


I was already having trouble stomaching a $35 shipping charge, but this price increase kills the deal for me. There was no justification on jumping the price up like that overnight and for a few hundred more, I'd rather get a Bulgarian Arsenal w/ a chrome lined barrel.
Link Posted: 1/2/2014 7:41:40 PM EST
That's pretty standard for pistols (unfortunately).  Both Fedex and UPS require they be shipped using overnight/next day service.

Link Posted: 1/2/2014 9:23:54 PM EST
The shipping cost is what stopped me from getting the M92 from J&G.  It's $47 to get it from AZ to FL.  The last pistol I bought was shipped via USPS for $10.
Link Posted: 1/2/2014 9:44:00 PM EST
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I've never understood why more dealers don't offer USPS.  Tracking isn't as strong but even with insurance it's cheaper. Some dealers offer it if you call and request it.  I tried that with J&G for a M92.  No dice.

Staying on topic though, here's a M92 for $429 shipped: http://www.vizardsgunsandammo.com/product-p/7-ghg3089n.htm

No returns though.  Smells like everyone is clearing these out for incoming new models.
Link Posted: 1/7/2014 8:13:53 PM EST
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M92s back in stock at Buds.

ETA price dropped from $428 to $419 shipped again.

ETA 2: price bumped up to $459
Link Posted: 1/12/2014 11:12:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Crsswift70:
I think these just came back in stock. GP1975's and WASR's for $499. Yeah i know, more than they used to be. http://www.jgsales.com/-c-209_214.html?stID=140
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How are these wasr's from JG sales? Seems they are $549 now.

Link Posted: 1/12/2014 11:16:57 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/12/2014 11:23:07 PM EST
Looks like the WASR 10 is 499 and the GP 1975 are 549. I would take the  WASR over the 1975 gun and use the rest for ammo.
Link Posted: 1/12/2014 11:32:57 PM EST
I was looking at the wasr 10/63. Which is better between the wasr 10 v.s the wasr 10/63? What are the differences?
Link Posted: 1/12/2014 11:52:00 PM EST
The 10/63 comes with the slant muzzle brake, bayonet lug and a bayonet.
Link Posted: 1/22/2014 7:29:27 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/23/2014 11:46:18 AM EST
$500 for that 5.45x39 is probably the best deal on a 74 around...very tempting.
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Link Posted: 1/24/2014 10:38:23 AM EST
$500 for that 5.45x39 is probably the best deal on a 74 around...very tempting.
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Would you be stuck with that for-stock? How hard to convert to a traditional front end or something that would accept a vertical grip?  Would a standard AK74 brake screw on?
Link Posted: 1/24/2014 3:40:45 PM EST
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Damn. If I fo, the wife will fo.
Link Posted: 1/24/2014 4:39:46 PM EST
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Damn. If I fo, the wife will fo.
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Damn. If I fo, the wife will fo.


I know where one is for $925. Type in slr107 in gunbroker search bar

CTD wont get my money.
Link Posted: 1/24/2014 6:38:17 PM EST
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Would you be stuck with that for-stock? How hard to convert to a traditional front end or something that would accept a vertical grip?  Would a standard AK74 brake screw on?
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Originally Posted By 35spline:
$500 for that 5.45x39 is probably the best deal on a 74 around...very tempting.


Would you be stuck with that for-stock? How hard to convert to a traditional front end or something that would accept a vertical grip?  Would a standard AK74 brake screw on?


They sell bolt on front hand guard retainers that would allow you to use a standard lower hand guard. You would need a normal gas tube if you want to run a regular upper hand guard.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 2:55:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 46and2:


Damn. If I fo, the wife will fo.
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Originally Posted By 46and2:


Damn. If I fo, the wife will fo.


Got one myself.

What is wrong with Cheaper Than Dirt ? I might have purchased from them in a LONG time ago.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 8:37:26 PM EST
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Got one myself.

What is wrong with Cheaper Than Dirt ? I might have purchased from them in a LONG time ago.
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Originally Posted By Robotizing:
Originally Posted By 46and2:


Damn. If I fo, the wife will fo.


Got one myself.

What is wrong with Cheaper Than Dirt ? I might have purchased from them in a LONG time ago.


They are the king of price gouging when any sort of scare happens. I will never buy anything from them again.
Link Posted: 1/25/2014 9:52:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Robotizing:
What is wrong with Cheaper Than Dirt ? I might have purchased from them in a LONG time ago.
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This:
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 9:07:39 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Robotizing:
What is wrong with Cheaper Than Dirt ? I might have purchased from them in a LONG time ago.

This:
http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/20121218-130735.jpg



Ouch.
Link Posted: 1/28/2014 9:51:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Krater:
Originally Posted By Robotizing:
What is wrong with Cheaper Than Dirt ? I might have purchased from them in a LONG time ago.

This:
http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/20121218-130735.jpg

I won't give them a dime after what they have done over the past year.

And I just purchased a SLR107FR for $999 from Atlantic Firearms.  I do business with companies with character.
Link Posted: 1/29/2014 12:05:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JohnnyA:


PAP pistols for $399.95 also at J&G.
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Still available, good price! http://www.jgsales.com/yugo-zastava-pap-m92pv-ak-style-pistol,-krinkov-pattern,-7.62x39,-wood-stock,-new.-p-57965.html
Link Posted: 1/29/2014 9:55:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TX_Archer:

I won't give them a dime after what they have done over the past year.

And I just purchased a SLR107FR for $999 from Atlantic Firearms.  I do business with companies with character.
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Originally Posted By TX_Archer:
Originally Posted By Krater:
Originally Posted By Robotizing:
What is wrong with Cheaper Than Dirt ? I might have purchased from them in a LONG time ago.

This:
http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/20121218-130735.jpg

I won't give them a dime after what they have done over the past year.

And I just purchased a SLR107FR for $999 from Atlantic Firearms.  I do business with companies with character.


I see your point and I had no idea they did that... although wouldn't you also agree that currently they have the best deal on an SLR107FR... So why not buy it from them when cheaper than everyone else and not buy from them when expensive?
Link Posted: 2/3/2014 4:04:36 PM EST
During the worst of the fallout from  Newtown they were selling USGI Aluminum AR mags for $100 each!

However, what was worse they were making a lot of noise in the first week or two that supported the anti-gun folks.  They pulled all ARs and AKs off their site for a while...

They only support the NRA and the Second Amendment when it is convenient and profitable. CTD will never get another dome from me.

Link Posted: 2/4/2014 11:25:56 AM EST
Yeah at first I thought CTD was just following the laws of supply and demand, and you couldn't fault them for that.  But, there is a limit to that and selling a $10 magazine for 10x the price is disgusting and perpetuates an already difficult environment for modern shooting sports and hobbyists.  

If you can do it, buy elsewhere, even if it means spending a little more money now.  There are good companies with a sense of morality out there.
Link Posted: 2/4/2014 12:22:28 PM EST
CTD doesn't stock stuff, they mostly ship from distributors warehouses.  That is why things are a different price depending on the warehouse.

They plain old gouged.
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Link Posted: 2/4/2014 9:29:14 PM EST
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Vepr 5.45 for those who don't mind an inferior caliber , 20" fluted barrel squareback no less!! As with all squarebacks, it has the unfinished crappy stock, don't be a douche and buy one then complain about the stock.

$665.00 from Atlantic : http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/russian-vepr-5-45x39mm-square-back-rifle-20-5-bbl-and-unfinished-stock-detail.html

Link Posted: 2/5/2014 10:00:37 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Dragynn:
Vepr 5.45 for those who don't mind an inferior caliber , 20" fluted barrel squareback no less!! As with all squarebacks, it has the unfinished crappy stock, don't be a douche and buy one then complain about the stock.

$665.00 from Atlantic : http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/russian-vepr-5-45x39mm-square-back-rifle-20-5-bbl-and-unfinished-stock-detail.html

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/images/stories/virtuemart/product/ds54520vepr.jpg
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Whats required to convert these to take standard stock and hand guard? the square back take a standard stock i think correct?
Link Posted: 2/5/2014 2:40:16 PM EST
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Whats required to convert these to take standard stock and hand guard? the square back take a standard stock i think correct?
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Originally Posted By Dragynn:
Vepr 5.45 for those who don't mind an inferior caliber , 20" fluted barrel squareback no less!! As with all squarebacks, it has the unfinished crappy stock, don't be a douche and buy one then complain about the stock.

$665.00 from Atlantic : http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/russian-vepr-5-45x39mm-square-back-rifle-20-5-bbl-and-unfinished-stock-detail.html

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/images/stories/virtuemart/product/ds54520vepr.jpg



Whats required to convert these to take standard stock and hand guard? the square back take a standard stock i think correct?


Yep, the squarebacks will take standard AK stocks, though as with all RPK receivers (1.6 mm vs. 1 mm receiver thickness) you may need to sand a bit for final fit. As for handguards, there are a lot of aftermarket options available for Vepr's now that are the long-style, if you prefer a conventional AK handguard set-up, there are gas tubes and front handguard retainers available to make that conversion too.
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