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Posted: 9/17/2003 10:09:28 PM EDT
I took these pics of the Bison while in Russia. I fired it a bit also. Main reason for taking so many internal pics is so maybe in the future I could make one. I had hoped that it would basically be the same as a normal AK. In fact, most of the parts are very different.
Pic from Izhmash museum:  Here is the one I actually fired.  It shoots great. Even my wife (who never shot an AK before)has no problems using it or hitting whatever she wanted. Field stripped   Trunnion markings-That round thing sticking out is the latch for the folding stock  Chamber. Notice the differences   Bolt/bolt carrier. One piece, almost like a Colt 9mm SMG.  More views of the Bolt       Thats it. |
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Posted: 9/18/2003 3:55:27 AM EDT
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fascinating! the first internal pics i've seen!
copied to hard drive. |
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Posted: 9/18/2003 4:22:03 AM EDT
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....also, note the filth!....gotta love it! You must have a lot of faith in your product to let somebody test fire it while it is that dirty. Don't thing we will see any 9mm Colts doing that!
Thanks for the pics! |
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Posted: 9/18/2003 5:13:50 AM EDT
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Damn I NEED a Bison.
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Posted: 9/18/2003 9:28:19 AM EDT
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How does the magazine work? Did you get any photos of the magazine?
This is so neat. |
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Posted: 9/18/2003 3:46:35 PM EDT
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That's one dirty gun.
It looks like one could copy it if they had some machine tools on hand. I don't mean a direct copy of course, but more or less a rough "clone" using modified normal AK parts. |
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Posted: 9/18/2003 5:53:11 PM EDT
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Campys M-4 may not be a 9mm but it had more ash than that in it a bulletfest before you or I even got to shoot it!. Part of the deal of us using it was I had to clean it! 5 minuites with an oily rag on the bolt and thru the upper was all it took, along with a couple squirts of CLP. Would not pass any white glove inspections but removing the bulk of the crud will keep in going. |
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Posted: 9/18/2003 5:55:25 PM EDT
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5 minuites with an oily rag and a tooth brush, ,a couple of passes with a bore brush and a couple of patches thru the barrel would keep that bison humming too.
I'll bet they werent shooting corrosive ammo! |
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Posted: 9/18/2003 6:38:20 PM EDT
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I helped dirty up that same gun a few months ago; it never had one failure of any kind that I saw. I even loaded the mag, skipping slots as I went, sometimes 2, 3 or 4 skipped, but Viktor Kalashnikov assured me that it wouldn't be a problem, and the Bizon tore through the whole mag without a hiccup. I am sure they just stack up once the ratchet release is sprung, but it is still a neat mag design.
-C |
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Posted: 9/18/2003 6:58:57 PM EDT
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What caliber is the bison? Is the bolt welded to the carrier?
OJF |
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Posted: 9/18/2003 10:14:40 PM EDT
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These pics were taken after shooting 4 green spam cans of 9x18, most of it thru this.
The magazine is the only weird part. Not very easy for a mag change, but you do have 64 rounds. Its a tube mag, sort of like a Calico. The rounds basically spiral inside. It takes two people to load it (easily). One person hold it and wind it, the other to actually insert the rounds. The bolt and carrier are one solid piece. |
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Posted: 9/19/2003 12:12:22 AM EDT
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Seems a lot like the 9mm arf, blow back and no gas system.
Any suppressed weapon like that will get real dirty in a hurry, especially something with a gas system like the arf. J |
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Posted: 9/19/2003 8:04:51 AM EDT
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BTW, the Bizon-2 can shoot 9X18 Mak, and 9X18EP
an enhanced penetration cartridge. They will also make the Bizon in 9X19 (53 round capacity called Bizon-2-01) and 9X17 Kurz (64 round, Bizon-2-02). |
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Posted: 9/19/2003 8:42:34 AM EDT
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Would not pass any white glove inspections but removing the bulk of the crud will keep in going.
not to worry! none of my firearms will pass the white glove test...but, they will run all day! i run my guns very wet. thanks for the extractor upgrade, too! |
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Posted: 9/19/2003 10:49:02 AM EDT
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You're velcome! And don't forget your new one piece gas ring!
Are you the fashon rage yet in your new $10 six pocket chest pouch?!? |
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Posted: 9/19/2003 10:55:08 AM EDT
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My cleaning philosiphy is to occasionally give them a quickie clean as described above peroidically and to give them a 'white glove' cleaning every couple thousand rounds or proir to long term storage.
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