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Posted: 12/28/2002 9:16:18 AM EDT
I am a GI stationed in Germany, and have purchased these two AKs straight from Russia. Top one is a Junkers 3 air rifle, bottom is an AK-74 Rifle. They should get here in a couple weeks. On the Ak-74, basically the bolt and barrel are welded over. I bought an AMD-65 in Germany like that a few years ago. Sorry pics are a little big.
 
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Posted: 12/28/2002 9:36:29 AM EDT
[#1]
Awesome! How much did it cost you, if I may ask?
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Posted: 12/28/2002 9:39:45 AM EDT
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The guns themselves were cheap; About $180 each. But it was shipping from Russia that is expensive. Plus customs fees, etc. Total for both inlcuding shipping was $620.
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Posted: 12/28/2002 11:46:09 AM EDT
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not to bust your bubble, but the ak-74 is illegal to bring home in spite of the dewat. a friend of mine looked into importing one. the 3rd (autosear) hole makes it a no-no. does yours have the 3rd hole?
he did buy a couple of the junkers and i tested the receiver for hardness. it is too soft to turn into a "real" gun...but makes a very nice collectible. |
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Posted: 12/28/2002 4:05:19 PM EDT
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Bob,
I have handled "bring backs" that were done in this manner. The ones I saw had a rod welded in the barrel on the chamber side, and the FCG group was welded together. The third hole was there! |
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Posted: 12/29/2002 12:21:36 AM EDT
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I am very aware that the full auto AK is not importable. I have not decided on if I want to cut it up, or just take the stock set and sell the rest to the Germans. The barrel was welded up prior to being installed, so the trunnion is still good. It makes a nice wall hanger for now.
I have asked the dealer that sold me these to see if he can get me some with semi auto receivers; the Russians do make a full military version of the the Saiga. (it still doesnt take hi caps) Also, I already already have a dewatted SVD/Drag that I brought back from Kosovo with permission. My section has a M1A1 Thompson, some others have Yugo AKs, etc. The unwritten rule seems to be as long as you keep it at work, no one cares. |
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Posted: 12/29/2002 5:18:39 AM EDT
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"I have handled "bring backs" that were done in this manner. The ones I saw had a rod welded in the barrel on the chamber side, and the FCG group was welded together. The third hole was there!"
when were these brought in? that receiver is STILL considered to be a machinegun...welded barrel/breech or not. that is the legal issue at work here. the atf still considers it to be a machineun...one that a competent smith could have running in under 4 hours. stottman, your pics are showing up today (i couldn't see them when i first replied. thus my question about that, now, very visible autosear pivot pin). if i were you, i would "legally" dewat the gun with 2 vertical and one horizontal cut (use a dremel with a cut off disc). bring those parts back and sell them off individually. russian pieces parts are worth money. is there a year stamped on your '74? i would bring that drag svd home intact...and sell it to me! lol!!!! |
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Posted: 12/29/2002 5:35:36 AM EDT
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It was brought back in 91~92.
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Posted: 12/29/2002 5:44:09 AM EDT
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Nice looking side folder setup on the air rifle. And that Russian wood on the 74 is a dream.
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Posted: 12/29/2002 6:04:20 AM EDT
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I changed the pic hoster- Yahoo would only work some of the time.
The Soviet Drag cant come back; Already asked ATF. Plus I cant seem to find anyone that has a bolt or barrel for sale. I thought about having a blank turned down, and maybe a ROMAK 3 or .308 SAIGA bolt fitted. It would be a shooter anyway. If I do bring back the parts from the 74, I will use them to build up a semi. I will post some more pics when the guns get here. |
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Posted: 12/30/2002 2:38:16 PM EDT
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May I strongly suggest you buy every single AK-74 they offer you. Remove the stock sets, especially the lightning-cut buttstock...and sell them here.
There are folks willing to pay close to $200 for the butt alone. |
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Posted: 5/22/2003 3:46:23 PM EDT
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Still waiting on more picture, hehe.
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Posted: 5/22/2003 4:24:21 PM EDT
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Couldn't this third hole be drilled in any recieve? Also, were the full-auto recievers alot harder than the semi's. What are the differeces in the matal.
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Posted: 5/22/2003 6:52:00 PM EDT
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Yes, of course you could drill the 3rd hole!.... and you would be in total violation, facing 10 years and $250K! The MMG receivers are hardend properly, and as Bob said, the Junker's are not. You'd have to put in new rails anyways (in the Junker), so welding, hardening, refinishing will all have to be done regardless- no biggie. BUT...... Slottman, on December 31st 2002, the BATFE released a statement making the Junker air rifles and MMG dewats illegal to bring into the country, and FORM6's will not even be approved for them. The parts on both your MMG and Junker are specifically banned to begin with, let alone the MMG's status as an unregistered M.G. Cut up or not, you would still be in violation. You might get the wood set in- should bring good $$$ from a collector, and if you get anything else, be thankful. Coming from Germany helps alot. -C |
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Posted: 5/23/2003 12:31:31 AM EDT
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Chamberin;
I am well aware of the importation status of this stuff. About the only thing really salvagable from the MMG is the stock set, and some other small parts. Bringing stuff back is no problem. Ekie bumped up this post from 6 months ago. I have a more recent one that has the guns complete. |
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Posted: 5/23/2003 4:35:03 AM EDT
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Oh, I missed the other thread, no way for me to find that one now. Only found this one cuz I had saved it, so simply replied and back to top it went.
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Posted: 5/23/2003 8:09:57 AM EDT
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hehehehehe- ooops my bad- where did the new post end up?
-C |
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Posted: 5/23/2003 4:00:33 PM EDT
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Hey, it looks kinda like the lower hanguard on the '74 is AKM style. It's still awesome though.
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