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Posted: 1/11/2013 8:04:00 PM EDT
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Has anybody built a AK and just parkerized it? If so I would like to see a picture of one. I have a G kit gun that I'm going to build and was thinking of just parkerizing it. I think it would be a neat addition to my collection. Since I didn't know if you meant an AK-47 or an AKM, I'll show you both. The bottom was parkerized by Vector, and I did the top one (Kyhber pass clone). I used Brownell's Zinc Phosphate with a pre-dip blackener - it turned out a little more dark than the AK-47 clone. I built it on a non-G Romy kit from the early 60's. Nice matching MD-63 kit - since a Kyhber is 'anything goes', I used a nice polish handguard set and pistol grip: 
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Posted: 1/11/2013 9:13:45 PM EDT
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NICE!! That looks sharp! Nice guns. My G is going to be parked. I also have a Hungarian SA kit I had for years that might get the same treatment. My NDS receivers are here. Now I'm waiting for the AK-Builder rivet jig and barrel press to arrive so I can start my builds. Thanks for the pictures!!
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Posted: 1/11/2013 9:17:13 PM EDT
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Sounds good. Yup building it yourself is the way to go. Don't skimp on the finishing. Prep work is the key.
Here's the same Kyhber in bright sunlight, along with another non-G Romy I built and park'd. Just gives you a better idea about the park finish in a different light: 
Thirtycal |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 9:33:07 PM EDT
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Yes that does look better in the sunlight, Nice!! I've been thinking about doing parkerizing as a side business in my area. Going all out one everything I need to get set up. I'm the type of person that doesn't skimp on anything I do. Do it right the first time. I have other gun projects that I could practice on to start with. A Yugo M48, Marlin 450 and a abused 1894 to start with. Thanks
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Posted: 1/12/2013 11:25:51 AM EDT
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Be aware that if you intend to do parkerizing on other peoples guns, you are required by Federal law to have a FFL license for gunsmithing and do all the record keeping.
Sounds silly, but that's the law. Violation is a felony. |
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Posted: 1/13/2013 4:22:09 AM EDT
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Yes, I am aware of the fact that I will need to have a FFL, Thank you!
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Posted: 1/17/2013 4:46:15 PM EDT
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My pole.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 4:45:35 AM EDT
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Nice!! Thanks
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Posted: 1/19/2013 7:41:51 PM EDT
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Timdawg please quit posting pictures of your pole. LOL
As for Parkerizing if you plan to do it yourself or even have it done somewhere and you have one of the later non chrome lined barrels you may want to make sure to plug the ends and the gasport on your barrel. The parkerizing solution will attach itself to all uncovered steel surfaces. I've seen a few redone L1A1 barrels that were done like this and now have parkerized bores. |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 8:08:58 PM EDT
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Timdawg please quit posting pictures of your pole. LOL As for Parkerizing if you plan to do it yourself or even have it done somewhere and you have one of the later non chrome lined barrels you may want to make sure to plug the ends and the gasport on your barrel. The parkerizing solution will attach itself to all uncovered steel surfaces. I've seen a few redone L1A1 barrels that were done like this and now have parkerized bores. It's really not an issue. I've never plugged any bores that I've parked and it hasn't affected anything. On almost all barrels the park won't attach since it doesn't like polished surfaces, on a few that I've done where it has all I did was run a bore snake through and it cleaned up most of it. The rest of it was removed at the first range session. |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 8:38:29 PM EDT
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Good to know. But to avoid it altogether a couple of $0.10 rubber stoppers would eliminate any problems
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Posted: 1/19/2013 9:59:10 PM EDT
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Parkerizing leaves an excellent, oil-holding porous surface and most of all:
ITS RIDICULOUSLY EASY TO DO! I've used that exact solution and its great. Hints: clean the metal 2 or 3 times - and when you are SURE there is no more oil, CLEAN IT AGAIN! The "green" brake cleaner works well for degreasing. I like to use distilled water from the Supermarket and I pre-heat parts. But others skip both steps and have OK results too. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:07:58 PM EDT
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A person parkerized a rifle for me and it ruined the bore. It would shoot all over the place. Will not shoot out. Sent barrel back to manufacturer ( Lother Walther) and they said it was junk now. Always plug the bore and gas port.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 10:16:29 PM EDT
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Better to be safe then sorry, Plugs are easy to use
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Posted: 1/21/2013 3:41:09 AM EDT
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A person parkerized a rifle for me and it ruined the bore. It would shoot all over the place. Will not shoot out. Sent barrel back to manufacturer ( Lother Walther) and they said it was junk now. Always plug the bore and gas port. I find that very hard to believe that your barrel was ruined simply because of parkerizing. That person who parked your barrel probably did something else to it and didn't tell you. I've parkerized hundreds of guns and parts and have never seen that. |
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Posted: 1/21/2013 3:44:30 AM EDT
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For those of you decide to use plugs make sure you don't just stick a plug in the bore and called it good. You'll have to fasion a threaded rod that runs the length of the bore to the plugs to keep constant pressure on them so they don't blow out while parkerizing. Seen a few smiths with burns from a plug coming loose and blasting solution all over them.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 4:49:45 AM EDT
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For those of you decide to use plugs make sure you don't just stick a plug in the bore and called it good. You'll have to fasion a threaded rod that runs the length of the bore to the plugs to keep constant pressure on them so they don't blow out while parkerizing. Seen a few smiths with burns from a plug coming loose and blasting solution all over them. How do you seal the gas port? |
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Posted: 1/21/2013 5:55:53 AM EDT
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plug the gas block?
eta: if you have an original chrome-lined barrel, you don't need to worry about plugging anything. the phosphate won't react with the chrome at all. i've built easily two dozen AK's over the years and haven't plugged any that were parked. if you're using a us-made chrome-moly barrel, then yes you DEFINITELY need to plug that up. |
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Posted: 1/21/2013 6:52:39 AM EDT
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For those of you decide to use plugs make sure you don't just stick a plug in the bore and called it good. You'll have to fasion a threaded rod that runs the length of the bore to the plugs to keep constant pressure on them so they don't blow out while parkerizing. Seen a few smiths with burns from a plug coming loose and blasting solution all over them. How do you seal the gas port? You simply put a rubber plug in and hope it doesn't come out. |
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Posted: 1/21/2013 6:55:55 AM EDT
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plug the gas block? eta: if you have an original chrome-lined barrel, you don't need to worry about plugging anything. the phosphate won't react with the chrome at all. i've built easily two dozen AK's over the years and haven't plugged any that were parked. if you're using a us-made chrome-moly barrel, then yes you DEFINITELY need to plug that up. No, you definitely don't. I used to think this way as well, "If it will do that to the outside it will do that to the inside" but it's not true. Luckily Gunplumber was gracious enough to impart some of his knowledge to me and I tested it on a few US made non-chrome lined barrels and it had no effect on the bores. Now if you have a barrel that's already a bit frosted then yes, that will give the park a place to bite down on, but it won't on a clean polished surface. |
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Posted: 1/21/2013 8:02:03 AM EDT
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having taken a borescope to a couple different manufacturers' CM barrels, they're far from a polished surface...
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