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Posted: 5/29/2008 6:31:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/29/2008 6:32:32 PM EST by natew73]
I ordered one tin of Bulgarian WASP from AIM but what they sent me was Russian stamped 60/77 . I know it's good ammo but I ordered Bulgarian, they said it was Bulgarian. The invoice even says Bulgarian 5.45X39.
If I wanted Rusian 5.45 from 1977, I would have ordered 2 tins from RGuns and it would have been cheaper. (I know b/c I've ordered from them). I specifically ordered from AIM b/c I also orderd a tin of Romanian 7.62X25 and wanted to try the Bulgarian 5.45.
What would you do?
What happened to truth in advertising?
I'll call them tomorrow, but I doubt I'll order from AIM again. It's the principle of it.
Just wanted to give everyone a heads up.

Link Posted: 5/29/2008 8:28:59 PM EST
The tins are similar looking, someone at their warehouse probaly made a mistake and shipped you the wrong thing. Don't worry about it and give them a call, their customer service is very well regarded and you should have no problems.

I think giving up ordering from them is gonna hurt you in the long run since they do a lot to keep their customers happy. This same thing cant be said for some other vendors around *cough* sportsmansguide *cough*.
Link Posted: 5/29/2008 8:57:56 PM EST
Link Posted: 5/29/2008 9:10:02 PM EST
Deal with them twice a year at minimum no issues yet. Call and they will correct it I'm certain.
Link Posted: 5/29/2008 11:35:47 PM EST
Everyone makes mistakes. It is what you do when you make one of those mistakes that determines your character.
I trust they'll make it right. AIM has a great reputation and my personal experience with them has always been quite positive.
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 12:25:58 AM EST
I like to get what I pay for also. And, I am not making excuses for AIM. However the Russian is still great ammo, and I prefer it to the Bulgarian. I think its more consistant,
and seems more accurate, although the differance is slight. The date made would mean nothing to me, as sealed in the tins, it is good for many more years.
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 4:52:04 AM EST
AIM is awesome. DO NOT STOP ordering from them just because of this small issue, and you didn't even give them the chance to fix it yet.

Once they packed a crate of 54r and 2 small cardboard boxes of the POF .303 in one big cardboard box. well, the 54r crate slid over and smashed the boxes of POF to bits, a couple rounds got screwed up. They sent me another box of .303. Happy camper here.
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 7:33:47 AM EST
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 8:35:00 AM EST
Does AIM even have the Russian surplus 5.45x39? I've never seen it there.
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 8:37:36 AM EST
OH MY GOD a company made a mistake!!!!!!

I wouldn't get worried until after you talk to them. Nobody is perfect
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 9:12:14 AM EST
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 11:59:19 AM EST
Wow dude, relax, AIM is one of the most stand up companies here. Sometimes companies make mistakes. Do you need someone to call EMS for you?
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 2:11:54 PM EST
why do you want the bulgarian over the russian? whats the difference?
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 4:03:12 PM EST
They've been good. Offered to ship it back but I need it for a party this weekend. Maybe I got a little excited. I apologize. I had a couple of friends who had problems with AIM and one is an FFL. It's just that I will buy Russian surplus from Rguns b/c it's cheaper overall when you buy 2 tins by almost $20. At least is is right now. I know the russian stuff is good, but an email or a phone call when they discovered that all they had was Russian would have been nice. Especially when Bulgarian is what I ordered. Brian was nice and apologized and offered to have it shipped back. I'll order again I'm sure.
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 4:14:49 PM EST
Brian at AIM has always treated me right!

Glad that you guys got it figures out and all is well.

BRIAN - Will you be getting more Bulgarian 5.45 soon? I have several cases of the Bulgarian, and I'd like to add some more to by "Just in Case the Democrats Win" stash.

BIGGER_HAMMER
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 6:34:11 PM EST
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 8:56:30 PM EST
Link Posted: 5/31/2008 8:51:21 AM EST
Its kind of like saying... "damn, I ordered a ham sandwich and someone, damit, gave me a New York Strip instead!"

I'd be tickled...

Y-

Link Posted: 5/31/2008 9:05:52 AM EST

Originally Posted By yasenovo:
Its kind of like saying... "damn, I ordered a ham sandwich and someone, damit, gave me a New York Strip instead!"

I'd be tickled...

Y-

No kidding. Russian has higher QC.
Link Posted: 5/31/2008 12:28:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/31/2008 12:29:04 PM EST by PhreakMode]

Originally Posted By BulletBait:

No kidding. Russian has higher QC.


what are you basing that statement from, perception?
Link Posted: 5/31/2008 5:04:10 PM EST
Both are great at 12-15 cents a round, but I got more consistant velocities (maybe better accuracy) with the 90's Bulgy than the 70's Russian, FWIW. Probably varies from lot to lot.
Link Posted: 6/1/2008 11:52:35 PM EST
"but I got more consistant velocities (maybe better accuracy) with the 90's Bulgy than the 70's Russian"

Roger that, for me too. But as cheap as 5.45mm surplus is right now, if Bulgarian is drying up the Russki isn't a bad second choice.
Link Posted: 6/2/2008 4:06:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By PhreakMode:

Originally Posted By BulletBait:

No kidding. Russian has higher QC.


what are you basing that statement from, perception?


The existence of Gulags in 1970s Russia. And a more liberal system in late 80s Bulgaria.
Link Posted: 6/3/2008 10:02:22 AM EST
The exact same thing happened to me. 30 minutes ago I opened the tin of 5.45x39 ammo from AIM and saw the 77 stamped on the case head and deduced that its the Russian stuff even thought I ordered Bulgarian. I'll give it a try and if I like it, I'll buy from R guns next time. I like AIM, but it's all about economics!
Link Posted: 6/4/2008 7:17:28 AM EST
I order from 2 places. Aim and Ammunitiontogo.com. SO if want to not order from AIM go ahead. That just leaves me more 5.45 to order. Which reminds me.
Link Posted: 6/4/2008 8:54:47 AM EST
Bulgarian, Russian 5.45....if it goes boom, who cares?
Link Posted: 6/4/2008 9:47:41 AM EST
anyway to tell what it is from the outside?

I can't read russian or bulgarian.
Link Posted: 6/4/2008 11:44:10 AM EST

Year of Manufac ? Numbered on the can. 70's vs 80-90's



PS I'm buying 5.45 anywhere I can find it starting now...
Link Posted: 6/5/2008 6:46:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/5/2008 6:47:04 PM EST by natew73]

Originally Posted By tenchu74:
The exact same thing happened to me. 30 minutes ago I opened the tin of 5.45x39 ammo from AIM and saw the 77 stamped on the case head and deduced that its the Russian stuff even thought I ordered Bulgarian. I'll give it a try and if I like it, I'll buy from R guns next time. I like AIM, but it's all about economics!



I like AIM, but it's all about economics. That's my main gripe
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