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Posted: 6/15/2007 2:49:36 PM EDT
I am completely new to all the foreign/combat rifles. I am only somewhat familiar with 30-30's shotguns etc. so I need to know what a Galil is compared to an AK and what is an FN? Fal?
I know that a 7.62X39 is much better round vs a .223, but I dont find any AR rifles offering a 7.62X39 model so maybe it is time I get familiar with other rifles.

Tnx,
Ronn
Link Posted: 6/15/2007 3:04:10 PM EDT
[#1]
There is previous thread on AR's chambered in 7.62x39, but I think that caliber should only be shot out of AK's. Anyway, some Galil & FAL links are below for your readin pleasure. You should read them for some general background before posting questions on the forum. Happy reading.

Israeli Galil (.223 & .308)
http://world.guns.ru/assault/as23-e.htm

Belgium FAL (.308)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_FAL
http://www.falfiles.com/index.php

Link Posted: 6/15/2007 3:11:43 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
I am completely new to all the foreign/combat rifles. I am only somewhat familiar with 30-30's shotguns etc. so I need to know what a Galil is compared to an AK and what is an FN? Fal?

A Galil is an Israeli rifle designed from the Finnish RK62.  The RK62 was developed from the AK47.  The Galil shares some characteristics of the AK, but they have no common parts.  

FN is the abbreviation for Fabrique Nationale, a Belgian arms factory.  They produced the FN FAL, FNC, and many other rifles.  In fact, FN produces the M16 for the US military along with the M249 and M240.
 


I know that a 7.62X39 is much better round vs a .223,

It's actually more accurate to say that some 7.62x39 rounds perform better than some .223/5.56 rounds and vice-versa.  
Link Posted: 6/15/2007 4:36:02 PM EDT
[#3]
Well Said. Good info,

Quoted:

Quoted:
I am completely new to all the foreign/combat rifles. I am only somewhat familiar with 30-30's shotguns etc. so I need to know what a Galil is compared to an AK and what is an FN? Fal?

A Galil is an Israeli rifle designed from the Finnish RK62.  The RK62 was developed from the AK47.  The Galil shares some characteristics of the AK, but they have no common parts.  

FN is the abbreviation for Fabrique Nationale, a Belgian arms factory.  They produced the FN FAL, FNC, and many other rifles.  In fact, FN produces the M16 for the US military along with the M249 and M240.
 


I know that a 7.62X39 is much better round vs a .223,

It's actually more accurate to say that some 7.62x39 rounds perform better than some .223/5.56 rounds and vice-versa.  
Link Posted: 6/15/2007 5:36:59 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/15/2007 6:20:09 PM EDT
[#5]

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They manufacture the majority of our military's M16 and M4 rifles as well.


Small correction here. Colt has sole responsibility for the M4.  FN produces the M16A4.

Link Posted: 6/16/2007 4:58:10 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/16/2007 6:12:45 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
There is previous thread on AR's chambered in 7.62x39, but I think that caliber should only be shot out of AK's. Anyway, some Galil & FAL links are below for your readin pleasure. You should read them for some general background before posting questions on the forum. Happy reading.



Why? Do you also feel that 5.56 should be only used in ARs?
Link Posted: 6/16/2007 7:06:05 AM EDT
[#8]
It's not that other chamberings are not effective or usefule, as innovation and thinking outside the box is important to progress.  I'm just more of a traditionalist collector. I only like the .223 for the AR-15, and the .308 for the AR-10.  And on the AK 47/74 side, I only like the 7.62 and 5.45.  You know, kinda like chambering a 1911 pistol in anythinkg but a .45 seems sacreligious.....

Link Posted: 6/16/2007 7:34:59 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
It's not that other chamberings are not effective or usefule, as innovation and thinking outside the box is important to progress.  I'm just more of a traditionalist collector. I only like the .223 for the AR-15, and the .308 for the AR-10.  And on the AK 47/74 side, I only like the 7.62 and 5.45.  You know, kinda like chambering a 1911 pistol in anythinkg but a .45 seems sacreligious.....



Never shot one in .38 Super, huh? I'm a shooter, not a collector. I can understand your reasoning within the context of being a traditionist collector, but how do you reconcile the issue of military 5.56 AKs? Would you turn your nose up at a Beryl if someone offered you one for your collection?
Link Posted: 6/16/2007 7:58:30 AM EDT
[#10]
I wouldn't say that I'm not a shooter, as all the toys in the 40 cubic foot safe get their fare share of trigger pulls. But I will agree that the 5.56 AK is a definte good choice for rugged military applications. I'd have no quams about taking an Arsenal 5.56 into the jungle or sandbox. I'd probably prefer that over an M4, even though the accuracy is not quite as good.

The ironic thing is that I'm ready to add a AKS-74 rifle to the collection and have been debating back and forth between the more traditional 5.45 and the Asenal SLR-106FR.  But I think the traditional bug is getting the best of me.
Link Posted: 6/16/2007 11:40:54 AM EDT
[#11]
All great weapons. I got rid of my FAL. Too heavy, too clunky and ammo cost too much!
I would not recommend the FAL to anyone!
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