Quoted: The heavier Vepr is probably better if you want to shoot alot and carry a little. Hold it offhand for 30 seconds. You will tire so quickly you won't be needing 30 rd magazines anymore.
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Thanks for the input! As far as carrying versus shooting, I've been shooting the M14 for a LONG time. Kind of gotten used to the weight. Granted, I think it's supposed to be lighter full-up than the VEPR is unloaded. I doubt I'll be carrying anything too much for a while, here's the plan:
Take a rack grade M14 semi-auto, a PTR-91, an FAL, the VEPR (it would appear at this point), a M1 Garand in 308, and some type of ratgun (looks like possibly a Bushmaster 308, but I haven't got the ratgun yet), and clean them well. Run cases of ammo through them all, no clean or lube. This is the sustained fire / durability test. Follow that with a test at -40, lots of hot to bueried in snow, etc for an arctic test, at least a case through each. The sand test, which is basically like the arctic test, but buerying everything in sand between strings (mags and all). Ditto with mud. And then the river crossing / immersion test. I'm thinking when it's done, I'll have enough material to make a very well informed decision on what's what! Hopefully the book will sell as well.
Quoted: I agree about the weight. 10 is enough!
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I agree, but in reality, the PTR is over 9 unloaded, and by my calibrated elbow, the M14, Garand, and FAL are really close. If you think 10 pounds is fun, my M25 comes in at 17 pounds. Humping that pig around the mountains gets old pretty quick. It really shines though when you take a 600+ yard shot ;-)
Quoted: Another on the board has some on-going experiments with (can't recall which AK model) & G3 mags.
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I would LOVE to see this, if you've got a way that I can find it..... or an e-mail for the guy doing it. I've got a moderately large stack of HK stamped G3 steel mags..... I was hoping to use FAL mags on the ratgun since I've got a moderately large stack of them, and M14 mags on the VEPR. But since Marc Krebs doesn't do that conversion any more...... a conversion to HK mags would be EXCELLENT! Besides, in the grand scheme of things, I think that the HK mags are built stout enough they rival the good AK mags in 7.62X39.