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Posted: 6/4/2008 9:29:22 PM EST
OK, first let me make this perfectly clear, I know NOTHING about AK variants aside from shooting them.
Like the title says, I'm looking to purchase a Dragunov style/type rifle in the near future. I've seen (what seems) to be several different types of the Dragunovs ranging from $800 to $2K. I did see a M76 and a Dragonuv Tiger that seemed to be a bit higher quality that the run of the mill PSL/Romak's I've seen, but then again I don’t feel confident enough with the $ value of them to jump on either.
Could someone a bit more educated/experienced with these please chime in and throw me a bone. I don’t want to pay $1500 for an $800 rifle.
Link Posted: 6/4/2008 9:54:21 PM EST
I can't really comment on price as I haven't really been following the market for them but I do know that that the high quality ones are the NDM-86's in .308 are real popular and sub-MOA out of the box. The Tigr's if you can find an original one are on real SVD receivers, there are some CAI made builds out there and they're still pretty good. My personal favorite is the .308 Saiga converted to SVD configuration.
Link Posted: 6/4/2008 10:06:20 PM EST
Just my .02......the first thing is that the actual Dragunov's operating system is different than the PSL, making it more accurate. You may want to check Dragunov. net for the most current info. As for price, the actual SVD's are WAY expensive 5k on up, while PSL's are in the neighborhood of $800, in my area anyway.
Link Posted: 6/5/2008 2:31:32 AM EST
The only rifles that are Dragunov's are:

Russian SVD 7.62x54R $8000+
Ultra rare, just about 100 in country

Russian Tigr 7.62x54R $2000+
The Tigr is basically a 20" barrel version of the SVD without the military features, a 'sporterized' hunting configuration

Russian CA Armory Tigr 7.62x54R $3500+
Full on military look like an SVD, but 20" barrel still

Chinese NDM86 7.62x54R $3500+
Almost exact copy of the SVD

Chinese NDM86 7.62x51 $2500+

Everything else is basically an AK on steroids one way or the other, including the PSL/Romak. There's a lot of hype to take advantage of the Dragunov fame, but if you want a 'real' Dragunov, your choices are limited and you are going to definately pay a lot more than a PSL. PSL's are fine for what they are, just be careful on price. I wouldn't pay more than $800ish for one depending on accessories.

On a practical level there isn't much difference in accuracy or reliability between Dragunov's and the PSL, they both get about 2-4 MOA in the 54R versions.

The 308's will outshoot the 54R PSL and Dragunov all day long however, many people routinely get sub MOA and half MOA does not seem to be uncommon.

If your intention is to get some cheap 54R and go blasting for fun, then you probaby want a PSL...they are cheaper and are definately fun. Once you know anything about an AK you'll be right at home with a PSL because it's the same, just larger.

On the other hand if you want a tack driver, neither the Dragunov or the PSL is probably not the best choice unless you can find one in .308. They aren't really sniper rifles in the sense that we think of them, they are designated marksman rifles intended to extend the range of an infantry squad, not take headshots at 1000m.

If you are interested in the actual Dragunov for what it is, then a PSL is definately no substitute IMO. There is a huge difference in design and craftsmanship between the two, the internals are completely different and even the sensation of shooting is very different. To me there is no comparison, they are like apples and oranges even though they shoot the same caliber. All I can say is that a Dragunov is really a Dragunov and you feel it...everything else isn't

As mentioned, check out Dragunov.net for more info. Berg has great information up and with a little reading you can get a better idea of what the differences between them are.


Link Posted: 6/5/2008 3:51:07 AM EST
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