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Posted: 1/7/2003 7:18:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/7/2003 7:22:37 PM EDT by CWO]
Having read A LOT of posts for months I confess that you guys have successfully converted me to "the dark side".  I want to get two AKs.  The first one I'm willing to spend about $700 or so.  I'm looking to experienced board members to recommend a really nice AK in that range.  Good workmanship and finish are fairly important to me.

What would YOU get if you had $700 (+ or -) to burn for a first AK?

Link Posted: 1/7/2003 7:21:31 PM EDT
If I was going to spend $700, I'd probably go to $800 and shop for a pre-ban.

Otherwise for $525 from FAC you can get a SA-7M

Link Posted: 1/7/2003 8:02:38 PM EDT
check out global trades/arsnenal usa.  they make some good stuff!!!!

Link Posted: 1/7/2003 8:16:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/7/2003 10:08:11 PM EDT by Templar]
Arsenal Inc. in Las Vegas.  Finest production AK's I've dealt with.  www.arsenalinc.com

This is one of their limited edition SA-M7 Classics.  Only 250 of these were to be made.

Or, as previously suggested, save some more money and get a good Chinese pre-ban for around $750-$850.
Link Posted: 1/8/2003 6:46:41 AM EDT
Its hard to beat the Classic that Templar mentioned.Arsenal takes Great Pride in the manufacture of their AKs.Check out your local gun shows and try to locate a pre ban Poly Tech Legend,it'll probably run in the 900.00 range but in my opinion its one step above the Classic.
Link Posted: 1/8/2003 7:17:37 AM EDT
Another vote for the Arsenal SAM-7.

I love mine.
Link Posted: 1/8/2003 8:00:20 AM EDT
The SA M-7S from Arsenal Inc
AK-103 from AK-USA
Preban Chinese
Link Posted: 1/8/2003 2:25:39 PM EDT
Well how about an AK74 clone built on a Bulgie kit by Inrange?
Link Posted: 1/8/2003 8:23:55 PM EDT
I appreciate the recommendations - thanks guys.  It appears that the SA M-7 Classic is no longer available (per Arsenal).  It looks like I'm going to have to explore some of the other good ideas.


Link Posted: 1/8/2003 8:53:10 PM EDT
Yep, the Classics are pretty much gone, but if you're looking for a serious shooter, the standard model SA-M7S is really the way to go, with a longer length of pull that appeals to many who are used to American rifles.  It's a clone of the current productions Bulgarian AK-47M1.

Link Posted: 1/9/2003 5:24:25 AM EDT
Templar; is the muzzle brake on the SA-M7S authentic or something the manufacture came up with? The pic on thier website shows the 74 type brake as an option.
Link Posted: 1/9/2003 4:52:36 PM EDT
yeah I checked out one of those Sam-7 classics at a gun store last weekend and it had an excellent finish and workmanship.  I was quite impressed.  they were asking $750
Link Posted: 1/9/2003 6:44:02 PM EDT
I've heard nothing but good about the Krebs custom AK's and they weigh about a ton less than the milled receiver AK's put out by Arsenal such as the SA-M7. Check them out.
Link Posted: 1/9/2003 6:55:19 PM EDT
I've been eyeing the Krebs selection as candidates for my second Ak.  I understand the wait for a Krebs gun is about 3 months or so - which is okay for #2.  

I'll probably also go for a third before too long, but I have a lot more reading to do on kit build-ups etc.

Thanks for all the recommendations!
Link Posted: 1/9/2003 8:59:29 PM EDT
Dredd, the muzzle brake on the SA-M7&M7S is the same one that Arsenal Bulgaria put on the SLR-95.  It isn't pretty, but it really does work.

Arsenal Inc. should be making a SA-M7 this year without the brake.
Link Posted: 1/9/2003 9:04:26 PM EDT
I have some suggestions for you-I have a SA-M7,a pre-ban Hungarian, a KREBS AK-103 and a few VEPR-K's-if you are going to get a KREBS-you will have to wait a very long time indeed-I waited 15 weeks-but compared to a VEPR-which you may also wait a long time for, there is no comparison.  The cheap-ass, paper-thin looking SAIGA receiver on the KREBS AK-103 just pales in comparison to the VEPR-it is built like a Tank!!!  But there is just no denying the Muzzle Brake on the KREBS-it is awesome-you can also have KREBS install that brake on your VEPR-but once again, it will be a very long wait. But there is nothing like that brake when firing at night-good god!!!  I had an order in for 2 AK-103's with AK-USA, but it just took too damn long, and I am tired of these long-ass waits-it wouldn't have been so bad, but the dude at AK-USA wanted his $$$$ up front-KREBS did not, and either did Robinson Armament-so I didn't mind the wait.  But the most beautiful of all the stamped-receiver AK's is easily the Hungarian line from Global Trades-they are just beautiful.   But the SA-M7 is truly one beautiful gun!!!  There is really nothing to compare it to!!! The good thing is that these guns are infinitely more reliable than any of the AR's.  I also have a Romanian beater truck SAR-1-reliable and ugly as hell!!!
Link Posted: 1/10/2003 9:27:46 AM EDT
Yet another vote for Global Trades. I have a SSR85B and just love it !! It's by far one of the best made, best looking, best shooting AK's I have ever seen.
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