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Posted: 12/27/2003 1:03:38 PM EDT
Was visiting my folks over the weekend and found 650 rds of 5.45 for cheap so I picked it up, but I'm not sure what it is. I've looked through other theads and have not found a perfect match.

-White Box
-25 rds. to a box
-box has 3 symbols: RNC in diamond, PCT, and a circle w/ arrows exiting in opposite directions
-headstamp: 5.45x39, 86 and circle with arrows
-bullet has cannalure
-no sealant on bullet or primer

Can anyone lead me to headstamp symbols for Tula, Uly and Barnaul? Is this stuff any good?
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 1:22:20 PM EDT
Is it 86 or 96?

If so it is Uly and it is corrosive.
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 1:27:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/27/2003 1:47:03 PM EDT by CAMPYBOB]
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 1:38:06 PM EDT
Well, if I read the headstamp with the primer being the bottom then both the 5.45x39 marking then the date would be 86. However, the date looks "right" if I flip it over thereby reading 98. The primer is gold in color and from other research I've gathered, this means non-corrosive, as the corrosive primers are gun metal grey.

I've also found that the RNC in the diamond is merely a quality marking that exists regardless of factory. Of course, don't believe everything you read...right?
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 1:52:00 PM EDT
Well, it's definitely ULY.

It says non-corrosive...true or not?

What about bullet weight and an airspace in the nose? Any ideas? Is this stuff any good?
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 2:00:13 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 2:30:16 PM EDT
Uly 96 had grey primers.  They were corrosive.

My 97 Uly had gold primers.  It was non-corrosive.

I have shot over a thousand rounds of eeach.

If it is 98 production with a gold primer, it is non-corrosive.
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 7:29:26 AM EDT
I am not aware of any ammo coming from Ulyanovsk or any new production ammo coming from Russia that had corrosive primers. If it was made in Ulyanovsk in 1998 I am 99.99% sure that it has non-corrosive primers. I can check with the Ulyanovsk plant.

Can you give me a lot number...should be on one of the flaps of the box... or if you have the case still, should be on the case.

Let me know and I can check with the factory and find out for sure.

Link Posted: 12/28/2003 7:31:34 AM EDT
When did Molot make ammunition? Which calibers?
New to me as well...
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 7:46:21 AM EDT
The 96 stuff was corrosive without a sliver of a doubt, rust would start to grow on the bearing surfaces inside the gas tube within a couple of hours on a damp day.

Like I said, I shot up two spam cans of that stuff and a couple of cases(in white boxes exactly as described above) of the 97 Uly with the gold primers.  It said non corrosive on the box and regardless of weather or time, the gas tube would not begin to rust.

The 98 should be fine.
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 10:40:31 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 12:33:29 PM EDT
I believe the lot number is:
TY 7271-001-07512048-93

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