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Posted: 5/25/2014 6:32:05 PM EST
Got out to shoot today. The SB-47 Brace shoulders perfectly well but the iron sights on this AK pistol are truly awful. It is barely minute of stump at 30-50 yards. Shooting way left at least 5-6 inches left.

I do not need bolt gun type accuracy but I would like to get it close to where my side arms are in terms of useful accuracy. Is there any hope or do I just need to plan on a red dot set up?
Link Posted: 5/25/2014 7:00:37 PM EST
Do you have a front sight adjustment tool? Or is the front sight post maxed out already?
Link Posted: 5/25/2014 8:11:58 PM EST
Here you go.

Stormwerks scope mount

Mount the optics of your choice......
Link Posted: 5/25/2014 8:15:41 PM EST
The front sight post is about maxed out. Will opening up the rear sight with a file do any good. I am tempted to just widen out the notch...how could it hurt?
Link Posted: 5/26/2014 3:16:14 AM EST
That white paint fill on the rear sight is a disaster. It's almost impossible to focus on the front sight. I removed that crap and now it's much better. I am also considering widening the notch.
Link Posted: 5/26/2014 7:33:01 AM EST
Word is there's a TWS dogleg for it coming soon.
Link Posted: 5/26/2014 8:05:05 AM EST
Akars
Link Posted: 5/26/2014 2:41:56 PM EST
Obviously I'm biased, but I'm a fan of my setup:

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Link Posted: 5/26/2014 2:48:36 PM EST
is that the stormwerkz?
Link Posted: 5/26/2014 3:18:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Norinco982lover:
is that the stormwerkz?
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No mine is a rapidfiretek

I went with them because they include the jig, drill, and proper tapping tool in their kit.
Link Posted: 5/26/2014 5:47:44 PM EST
Looks good! Clean and low profile. I would appreciate workable iron sights as well but maybe the dot sight is the percentage play.
Link Posted: 5/26/2014 10:39:45 PM EST
I'm going to cut down an Ultimak for my M85. I don't really trust top cover mounts, and the Ultimak is a proven system.
Link Posted: 5/27/2014 5:47:43 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/27/2014 5:48:20 PM EST by blfuller]
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Originally Posted By AKFTW:
I'm going to cut down an Ultimak for my M85. I don't really trust top cover mounts, and the Ultimak is a proven system.
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Why cut one down, Ultimak makes one for the M92/M85.
Ultimak M15
Link Posted: 5/27/2014 5:56:27 PM EST
A recent pap pistol was the same for a friend, had a trunnion/barrel issue fwiw
Link Posted: 5/27/2014 8:44:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By LawyersGunsMoney:
Looks good! Clean and low profile. I would appreciate workable iron sights as well but maybe the dot sight is the percentage play.
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The red dot unscrews so you can use the sights with a quarter and some finger strength if something happens to your optic.
Link Posted: 5/27/2014 9:40:59 PM EST
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[dupe]
Link Posted: 5/27/2014 9:41:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By blfuller:

Why cut one down, Ultimak makes one for the M92/M85.
Ultimak M15
http://ultimak.com/products/M15inst.jpg
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Originally Posted By blfuller:
Originally Posted By AKFTW:
I'm going to cut down an Ultimak for my M85. I don't really trust top cover mounts, and the Ultimak is a proven system.

Why cut one down, Ultimak makes one for the M92/M85.
Ultimak M15
http://ultimak.com/products/M15inst.jpg


Because the M85 Gas Tube is about 3/4" longer than the M92
Link Posted: 5/28/2014 5:23:14 PM EST
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Because the M85 Gas Tube is about 3/4" longer than the M92
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That I did not know. I only have the 92 and thought the only difference was the receiver being bulged on the M85.
Link Posted: 6/9/2014 6:37:39 PM EST
Sights are too diminutive for my aging eyes...enter the red dot:

http://i1321.photobucket.com/albums/u543/doro19/IMG_12642_zpsab9b99a1.jpg
Link Posted: 6/15/2014 8:52:12 AM EST
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Originally Posted By doro19:
Sights are too diminutive for my aging eyes...enter the red dot:

<a href="http://s1321.photobucket.com/user/doro19/media/IMG_12642_zpsab9b99a1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1321.photobucket.com/albums/u543/doro19/IMG_12642_zpsab9b99a1.jpg</a>
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yes suck's gettin old. goin on 56 the factory sights suck on the 92 and 85.
Link Posted: 6/15/2014 9:38:12 AM EST
Are you guys getting return to zero when you lift your cover up or is it close to zero? Are both the StormWerkz and Rapidfire mounts about the same in regards to build quality and ease of mounting?
Link Posted: 6/15/2014 3:08:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By LawyersGunsMoney:
The front sight post is about maxed out. ...
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Maxed out to the left, correct?

Link Posted: 6/15/2014 7:15:47 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/15/2014 7:16:31 PM EST by Aubie1]
I'll let you know in a couple of days as I ordered the Rapid Fire mount. Their shipping is high for small parts, but I wanted two mounts, so I went with them.

I'll tell you one thing...the steel on the PAP pistols are thick/tough. Drilling to tap for folding mechanism wasn't that easy.

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Are you guys getting return to zero when you lift your cover up or is it close to zero? Are both the StormWerkz and Rapidfire mounts about the same in regards to build quality and ease of mounting?
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Link Posted: 6/17/2014 3:32:39 PM EST
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Originally Posted By blfuller:

Why cut one down, Ultimak makes one for the M92/M85.
Ultimak M15
http://ultimak.com/products/M15inst.jpg
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Originally Posted By blfuller:
Originally Posted By AKFTW:
I'm going to cut down an Ultimak for my M85. I don't really trust top cover mounts, and the Ultimak is a proven system.

Why cut one down, Ultimak makes one for the M92/M85.
Ultimak M15
http://ultimak.com/products/M15inst.jpg



+1 for the Ultimak system. I recently installed one on my PAP with a primary arms red dot and it is superb. Everything went together perfectly.

I was killing clay pigeons this Father's Day at 100 yards.without even trying. It would be nice if there were better iron sights on the market for the PAP but I don't think there is much that can be done with such a short sight radius.

But don't install a cheap Chinese flashlight on the rest of the rail. The recoil will beat it to death.
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 6:07:03 PM EST
+1 for the StormWerkz. Plus, cheap and fast shipping.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 2:22:00 PM EST
Got my RFT top mount...his prices to ship are high considering they are tiny/light items that fit inside small USPS flat rate box.

Anyway, the jig is very useful and I drilled and tapped it in under 10 minutes. I like Stormwerkz products, but I feel that 4 screws on their top mount is overkill and it does not include the jig.
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 4:42:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Aubie1:
Got my RFT top mount...his prices to ship are high considering they are tiny/light items that fit inside small USPS flat rate box.

Anyway, the jig is very useful and I drilled and tapped it in under 10 minutes. I like Stormwerkz products, but I feel that 4 screws on their top mount is overkill and it does not include the jig.
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With the StormWerkz you set the mount in place and use it as the guide/jig.

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