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Posted: 8/18/2004 11:57:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/18/2004 11:57:41 AM EDT by jnewt]
If you only have funds to buy one, this will be your only SHTF rifle, only rifle for that matter, which caliber AK would you choose and why?
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 12:08:10 PM EDT

- Higher velocity

- flatter trajectory

- better accuracy

- lighter recoil

- further effective range
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 12:15:07 PM EDT

readily avalible parts and ammo.
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 12:42:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/18/2004 12:43:50 PM EDT by jtw2]
oops. read it wrong.

I'd go 7.62 simply cause it's older and more "common" even though the only AK i have right now is a 5.45.
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 12:47:28 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 2:04:19 PM EDT
If money was no object?


If it was Real World Monetary Concerns?


Sorry, 5.45 is nice and all, but magazines and ammo cost a good bit more, and the price of .223 AK mags is ridiculous.
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 2:34:24 PM EDT
I'm with Mach1, 5.45 for all the same reasons. I have no problem getting ammo or mags for this little darlin, so I gotta go with it.
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 3:03:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RED_5:

readily avalible parts and ammo.


Link Posted: 8/18/2004 3:26:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RED_5:

readily available parts and ammo.

My thoughts exactly.
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 3:44:19 PM EDT
I like both , but I prefer the 5.45 X 39. The bullet is very effective against live targets and the recoil is appreciably less than 7.62 X 39 rifles. My Sar-2 is also very accurate too. I would grab my AK-74 and have no worries about its ability to handle a SHTF scenario. The Russians went to the caliber and they wouldn't arm their troops with a marginal weapon.
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 4:01:06 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 4:05:36 PM EDT
I really like the 5.45 but if I had to pick only one it woild be the 7.62mm x 39mm
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 4:26:58 PM EDT
5.45. Lighter loaded. Can carry more ammo. Easy to find 5.45 ammo, what are you guys talking about? Spare parts? It's an AK.
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 4:27:15 PM EDT
I too like the 5.45 but for me, especially right now, it would be 7.62 for the cost factor. That and I only have a SAR1 and a Yugo SKS
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 6:14:00 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 6:16:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/18/2004 6:16:58 PM EDT by Ripcode]

Originally Posted By RED_5:

readily avalible parts and ammo.


With (3) AKs and (3) SKS' so far... It's a whole lot easier to have one caliber!
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 7:24:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Sturmwehr:
the price of .223 AK mags is ridiculous.

the last I checked Kvar had the 5.45/5.56 mags for like $7 & change,
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 9:02:09 PM EDT
7.62 cause the ammo is everywhere.
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 9:26:19 PM EDT
My feeling is that 7.62x39 is the better anti-personel round at most realistic SHTF ranges. Its also a better round for medium game. Kalashnikov himself was very much against the 5.45 concept.

The 5.45x39 does NOT fragment like 5.56 (the "air chamber" in the tip does nothing to increase stopping power). The 5.45 does offer lighter weight, less recoil and flatter trajectory, but ask yourself how this will REALLY matter in any realistic SHTF scenario.
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 9:44:19 PM EDT
7.62x39 is flatout just a pretty hard hitter. That's why I myself prefer 7.62x39 over 5.45.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 2:43:49 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 2:50:06 AM EDT
Neither, SHTF bad enough I just go to work and pick up a pair of M-16's, one in 5.56 and one in 9mm.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 6:22:05 AM EDT
Hard choice...... I like my SAR2 in 5.45x39 (especially after I got 74M/B attached) but it is still easier to find 7.62x39

So right now I`m voting for 7.62x39.......
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