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Posted: 10/3/2004 9:45:42 AM EST
Shouldn't the 5.45 be exempt?
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 9:49:45 AM EST
.221 for 5.45 is bigger than .220000000 is it not? I consider .221 ".22 caliber" but technically it's larger I guess.... When it comes to banning stuff I'm sure the ATF will make that ruling. Now if it was the other way around and all ".22 caliber" was banned you can bet your ass the ATF ruling would be .221 and .223 "count"...
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 9:56:21 AM EST
M855 is allowed though? And m2 ball? Weird. Damn, I would have liked to have a Krink pistol.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 12:12:47 PM EST
So make a krink pistol, just do it in 5.56 or 7.62. Just as easy. I suspect the mag prices on bulgarian waffle 5.56 mags will be falling through the floor here in the next 6 months, since we can get new ones now.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 1:13:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2004 1:13:48 PM EST by AR-15Fan]

The definition of AP ammo is at 18 USC sec. 921(a)(17):
"(B) The term `armor piercing ammunition' means-

(i) a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and
which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other
substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass,
bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium; or

(ii) a full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and
intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25
percent of the total weight of the projectile.

(C) The term `armor piercing ammunition' does not include shotgun shot
required by Federal or State environmental or game regulations for hunting
purposes, a frangible projectile designed for target shooting, a projectile
which the Secretary finds is primarily intended to be used for sporting
purposes
, or any other projectile or projectile core which the Secretary
finds is intended to be used for industrial purposes, including a charge
used in an oil and gas well perforating device."

[Secretary means Secretary of the Treasury, in reality determinations
are delegated to the Technology Branch of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco
and Firearms (ATF)]



There's the actual text. It is my understanding the different steel core 5.56 and whatever other 7.62x51/30-06 and such is getting in because it was specifically exempted as being "primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes" because of the service rifle matches and stuff. I think we'd have a hard time arguing ammo for evil commie AK74 variants is "sporting" enough for the ATF...
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 1:00:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By AR-15Fan:
.221 for 5.45 is bigger than .220000000 is it not? I consider .221 ".22 caliber" but technically it's larger I guess.... When it comes to banning stuff I'm sure the ATF will make that ruling. Now if it was the other way around and all ".22 caliber" was banned you can bet your ass the ATF ruling would be .221 and .223 "count"...



Im not sure how accurate the Soviet measurment is but by my calculation 5.45mm converts to 0.21457 inches. Which is smaller than .22000
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 2:08:00 AM EST
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