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Posted: 10/12/2004 4:27:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/12/2004 5:38:26 PM EST by ForceOfHabit]

To All the Guns Network members that received this SPAM earlier,

First let me say Thank you all for your support of our website Guns
Network and good morning!

I apologize for you getting this email spammed to you by someone who
not only is scum of the earth but Jeff is also his name is a THEIF and a
LIAR.

He stole from Guns Network in order to build a website and as always -
If a man will steal from you he will also lie to you and vice versa.

I just want you to know that he harvested these emails from our website
long ago when we was a Moderator who was booted for being a flip/ flop
and insubordination.

Yeah he pulled a John Kerry on us, but also while he was trying to play
nice-nice to us he and his cohorts were planning and building a website
under our nose, yes I admit to you that they all were using our
resources to coordinate building their webite now known as gunco. Instead of
asking permission Jeff and his buddies STOLE the email addresses and
built up a email database. He used it last time to advertise there
website and now he is using the email addresses again.

Folks this is out of my hands on what he has done and if you did not
sign up at his website and got spammed then you need to demand that he
remove you from this email list that HE STOLE from Guns Network or you
will turn him in to his local police department for harassment, I have
that info if you need it also. I would also suggest reporting him to his
website hosting company, his ISP as well as his email host.

These idiots have been trying to capitalize on Guns Network platform
for months with no success, just a ghost town.

I have received in the last hour 38 emails asking me this "Who and the
hell gave out my email" and "Who is this asshole who sent me this crap"
and "Did you sell my email address" and better yet "Did I sell your
email addresses". The answer is NO they were LIFTED by someone we trusted
at one time. I have told the members who emailed or PM'd me, we do not
condone this email being sent and I do want to hear from those who are
pissed off that this has happened. Maybe we can all do our civic duty
and report Jeff.

I do have his contact numbers. Jeff took your info without your
permission and if you want to give it to him straight, then email me back.

Guns Network has helped many Gun Discussion websites out when they are
trying to get off the floor, what they had in common is they ASKED for
help. BUT when you lie, cheat and steal, we will not condone or
support any website that lives by deceit and dishonor. They took resources
from us and I sincerely apologize to you all. This happened awhile back
under my watch and I am truly sorry. I take full responsibility for it
and I have made changes on our servers so this will never ever happen
and yes I am accountable as well.

I would hope you all can agree with me that this kind of deception
should be reported.

If you have any question PLEASE email me them.



David
Guns Network Staff
Owner / Partner

Below is part of the email that was sent.......

I just got an email from " akman@gunco.net " that has probably around
200+ email addresses in the header (many that I recognize from here).

I think this guy harvested email addresses from your system.

Here's part of the MESSAGE that was sent:

"What we have for free that other sites are suddenly charging for:

We have free private messaging
Free avatars of your choice with a wide selection already
Searching for free
Free editing of posts
Viewing of public profile info on other guests.
Signature lines are still there free."

Link Posted: 10/12/2004 4:36:45 PM EST
Same here.
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 4:50:46 PM EST
That guy needs to learn how to spell.
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 5:47:14 PM EST
Hi!

I'm the traitor, liar and thief. I stop at the Kerry thing though as that's just too low.

Anyway check out our thread at Gunco for more of it.

http://www.gunco.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2142

As always the people here are good people and we at Gunco get along great with all of you.

a.k.a. Sang
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 6:08:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By ORFShooter:
Hi!

I'm the traitor, liar and thief. I stop at the Kerry thing though as that's just too low.

Anyway check out our thread at Gunco for more of it.

http://www.gunco.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2142

As always the people here are good people and we at Gunco get along great with all of you.

a.k.a. Sang



Hopefully Dumbo's latest stunt will send more members your way. Thanks to you, the Avila's and Jen, we have better sites to go to now.
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 6:12:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/12/2004 6:13:56 PM EST by Ripcode]
That's funny! Gunsnuts makes me laugh!

I like Gunco!

www.gunco.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2142
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 6:33:48 PM EST

Thanks to you, the Avila's and Jen, we have better sites to go to now.


Well, maybe not Jen for long...If you haven't already seen this:

Fal Files going down??
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 3:38:53 AM EST
We have to have a Campy interpretation of the e-mail! Come'on Campy!
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 3:56:09 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 4:19:42 AM EST
But JeepCreep, I have no clue who that could be? Hmm? let me think...........
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 4:47:52 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 5:15:50 AM EST
I think I will frame that one Campy! Thankyou!
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 6:33:30 AM EST
I sent him back a nice little reply about how i had not recieved any email from the gunco admin.
And that further more i did not even know about the site untill now. And i thanked him very much for sending me that link to gunco. And i further told him what an informative site it is, and how they dont charge members to access all of that excellent info on their site.

Awaiting a reply.

Did i mention that he sent that email to one of my emails that i am banned under. I should turn him in for spamming.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 6:52:41 AM EST
Just signed up at Gunco hehe.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 9:31:18 AM EST
He has got a lot of balls calling anyone a liar and a thief.

To anyone who does not know the complete story, here it is.

Over the winter of 2003, I was building a Polish AK.
I documented every step as I went. (Here is a link to it , at Ace arms, where it is being used with my full permission)
Tutorial

At the time there was no other complete build info around.
It became the most viewed thread in the history of goonsnet, with several thousand reads.

As soon as it was completed, it was tacked to the top of the original BIY forum, and DimwiT started charging $20 to be able to view it.

I was pissed, I had countless hours in taking, cropping and resizing the pics, not to mention writing the text.
I supplied this info for free, and intended it to be accessible to everyone for free.

I was not about to let that douche bag turn a profit off my work. A lot of others felt the same way.
If you search the archives over there, you will see that almost all of the knowledgeable members, that were suppling the bulk of intelligent replies back then, (pre Feb 04) became charter members at gunco.

That is why gunco came to be.
As soon as that shit stain discovered we were going to set up a free biy forum, he banned us.
Even though most of us were silver contributors.

I don't know if it is still tacked up there, but it was last I knew.
I changed the picture URL's so if it is still there, it is stolen information.

By the way, all the email addys that I ever used, were compiled from the group buys I did, not from asshat's member list.


Link Posted: 10/13/2004 9:45:48 AM EST

"Did you sell my email address" and better yet "Did I sell your
email addresses". The answer is NO

....
But I bet he wishes he had thought of it.
I bet he will now!
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 11:04:38 AM EST
"insubordination"...that's kinda bizarre...
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 12:24:41 PM EST

Originally Posted By Jeepcreep:
Flip/flop ....stole... liar... thief.....

hhhmmmmmm now who could that be.... let's break it down....shall we?

liar This person claimed to be an ex-Navy Seal, even presented people from this board a challenge coin from his Seal Team at a shoot in Texas.




Anyone have this assclown's FULL real name? If so, please email it to me or forward it
at this website below. Making this claim is totally dishonorable and unacceptable. It
would be nice to have a real SEAL Team pay him a visit to "straighten out his fantasy".


AuthentiSEAL
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:42:12 PM EST
I agree AK-101. Let us put his name on the "Wall of Shame" if it truly belongs there.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:52:22 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 4:00:12 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 4:43:02 PM EST
We've done the AuthentiSEAL thing and sure enough he's not a SEAL.

All the boards have been helpfull and we have members from all over on Gunco and we allow our members to speak of any other baord.

Thanks for the compliments Campy.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 5:08:38 PM EST
Fuck that buffoon.

He's lied to his entire membership over there just to squeeze every dollar he can out of them.

HE LIED ABOUT BEING A NAVY SEAL. HE IS A FUCKING FAKE. THE REALS SEALS TOLD HIM TO SHUT HIS LYING MOUTH BEFORE THEY CUT HIS NUTS OFF.

HE LIED ABOUT HIS WIFE HAVING CANCER JUST TO DISAPPEAR AS DTHOR AND COME BACK AS BOWCUNT.

HE LIED ABOUT ABOUT BOWCUNT RETIRING FROM SYSTEM ADMIN SO HE COULD WORK THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE OF GUNCUNTS.NUTZ AND CAME BACK AS GUNS NUTWORK STIFF.

HE ORGANIZED A GROUP PURCHASE OF MAGAZINES AND HIS SUPPLIER HAD TO GET THEM FROM A THIRD SUPPLIER. HE THEN JACKED THE PRICE UP TO FUCK THE MEMBERSHIP OUT OF THEIR MONEY WHEN HE ONLY PAID $4-$5 EACH FOR THE MAGS.

HE IS TAKING ALL THE MONEY HE CAN FROM HIS BOARD TO FIX THE PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT BOAT IN THE DRIVEWAY OF HIS FUCKED UP KB HOME IN SAN ANTONIO TEXAS.


SO NOW MR DAVID THORNTON IS GETTING A TASTE OF HIS OWN MEDICINE AND HIS MEMBERS WILL MAKE HIM INTO THEIR PERSONAL COCKHOLSTER !!

Link Posted: 10/13/2004 5:29:33 PM EST
ok who has a picture of the garbage scow? better yet who has a picture of Davey himself, god pictures of this peckerwood would be great, he is slowly becoming another TOAD at SpcheiAl WAPuNs

Link Posted: 10/13/2004 7:26:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 7:31:23 PM EST by ForceOfHabit]

Originally Posted By Red_Faction:
Fuck that buffoon.

He's lied to his entire membership over there just to squeeze every dollar he can out of them.

HE LIED ABOUT BEING A NAVY SEAL. HE IS A FUCKING FAKE. THE REALS SEALS TOLD HIM TO SHUT HIS LYING MOUTH BEFORE THEY CUT HIS NUTS OFF.

HE LIED ABOUT HIS WIFE HAVING CANCER JUST TO DISAPPEAR AS DTHOR AND COME BACK AS BOWCUNT.

HE LIED ABOUT ABOUT BOWCUNT RETIRING FROM SYSTEM ADMIN SO HE COULD WORK THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE OF GUNCUNTS.NUTZ AND CAME BACK AS GUNS NUTWORK STIFF.

HE ORGANIZED A GROUP PURCHASE OF MAGAZINES AND HIS SUPPLIER HAD TO GET THEM FROM A THIRD SUPPLIER. HE THEN JACKED THE PRICE UP TO FUCK THE MEMBERSHIP OUT OF THEIR MONEY WHEN HE ONLY PAID $4-$5 EACH FOR THE MAGS.

HE IS TAKING ALL THE MONEY HE CAN FROM HIS BOARD TO FIX THE PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT BOAT IN THE DRIVEWAY OF HIS FUCKED UP KB HOME IN SAN ANTONIO TEXAS.


SO NOW MR DAVID THORNTON IS GETTING A TASTE OF HIS OWN MEDICINE AND HIS MEMBERS WILL MAKE HIM INTO THEIR PERSONAL COCKHOLSTER !!




You forgot to add that he then went off the deep end on K-Var (the third party source of the group buy mags) because K-Var had a sale undercutting Jerkin's price. The sheep at Goonsnet gladly paid Jerkin $9.99-$10.99 a mag although K-Var's price with the forum discount was around $7.50. Those nasty Bulgarians at K-Var are thieves according to their highly exaulted Dimwit. You can't mention or buy from K-Var but it is OK if their sponsors buy from them. He also stiffed Josh Newton for selling the exact same kits that one of his "cockholsters" was selling. What a hypocritical POS.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 11:05:08 PM EST
Signed up @ Gunco and I always buy from K-VAR when the fake SEAL rants because I ain't gonna be his COCKHOLSTER.
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 6:16:21 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/18/2004 6:39:15 AM EST by AK-101]

Originally Posted By jimmyjoebob:
who has a picture of Davey himself, god pictures of this peckerwood would be great, he is slowly becoming another TOAD at SpcheiAl WAPuNs





It took a while to get it (highly clASSified info) but here he is:

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:Owi8w91Z-tQJ:www.io.com/~cwagner/images/new-retard.jpg

Hoooo-raaah!!

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