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Posted: 1/10/2005 9:38:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2005 9:38:41 AM EDT by HardShell]
Okay, I have several AKs but I've never owned/shot any Hungarian variants.  A good friend is considering one for his very first AK & asked my advice, but I must defer to y'all.  He can get it wholesale (FFL relative)  and he's looking at the ones in the current SOG catalog with the pre-ban features (fixed-stock model).  Are these good rifles?  Should he look elsewhere or at something else?  He's an old-school AR/M1A guy and this will be his first foray into the dark side... I don't want him to have a bad first experience.

What says the AK brain-trust?...
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 12:05:36 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 12:10:28 PM EDT
Thanks - that's the kind of info I was looking for.  Have the SARs gotten any better, or are they still hit-and-miss? (canted sights, etc.)  I've gotten a couple of nice SARs for the money, but I hand-picked mine & he won't have that option if he orders one.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 12:16:45 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 9:04:16 PM EDT
You can find post ban butthole stocked hungarian SA85ms for $400 to $500 if you look around.,. They really are nice.  Of course, it'll need to be un-neutered, and that will run the cost up, but they really are nice.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 2:59:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By eodinert:
You can find post ban butthole stocked hungarian SA85ms for $400 to $500 if you look around.,. They really are nice.  Of course, it'll need to be un-neutered, and that will run the cost up, but they really are nice.



I walked into my favorite gun shop a couple of months ago and found an SA85M for $350.  The owner had gotten it in trade.  From the finish, there probably hadn't been more than 20 rounds fired through it.  I snapped it up on the spot and switched out the parts.  It has no bayo lug or threaded barrel, but I wouldn't give up the rifle for anything.  It is just beautiful.  

I agree that the post-ban 'butthole stocked' ones are worth the $400-500 people are asking.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 3:26:40 PM EDT
HardShell,

I have an AMD65 built by Redjacket, it's a real hot rod. It's on a Vector reciever. This sucker is really a fun shooter & pretty well accurate too. I've got Romy's, Bulgarian, Chinese & Hungarian. The Hungry one is one of my favorites.    
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 3:53:20 PM EDT
Just curious, what is the going price for the Kassnar preban non-folder?  
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 5:38:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mbakercad:
Just curious, what is the going price for the Kassnar preban non-folder?  



I've seen them going for around $1500.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 5:42:17 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 5:49:23 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 7:35:52 PM EDT


Here's a post-Ban I made "Honest" a couple of months ago.  I love the Hungarians BTW
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 7:38:52 PM EDT
Here is a link to a Hungarian underfolder from someone that was selling it in the EE here

pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/gunnarrockhound/detail?.dir=/7c2b&.dnm=48d1.jpg&.src=ph

They make one purtyyyyy AK
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 7:48:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2005 7:48:24 PM EDT by Templar]
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 11:28:56 PM EDT
I've got about 4000 rounds through my FEG SA-85M since it's last cleaning. The thing works great and is very accurate. I'd like to find another, but it's kinda tough.
Link Posted: 1/12/2005 9:19:06 PM EDT
I had my post ban converted into an AMD-63 no-ban.  At least, it's an AMD-63 part of the time, the rest of the time I swap out gas tube and handguards and it's a pre-ban (no-ban) with a regular handguard.  Very cool, very hungarian.

I need a nicer butt stock for it, though, the one I have isn't as nice as it should be.  Anybody have a nice, blonde hungarian fixed stock to trade?

~Doug
Link Posted: 1/13/2005 6:03:15 AM EDT
Guys, thanks for all the info!  But I don't think I was clear enough in my initial post...

My friend is not the "build-it" or "order-a-custom-build" type.  I love my ORF '74, but he's not going to go that route.  He's on a tight budget, has a family member with an FFL who'll order for him at cost, and just wants to order a complete, ready-to-fire rifle.  He wants a fun blaster that will use the same ammo as his SKS - he won't ever use this AK for anything serious (like I said, he's a AR15/M1A guy).

What I should have asked was:  Does anybody here have any experience with the AKs that SOG is selling as "Hungarians," and are they decent for the money?  Thanks!
Link Posted: 1/13/2005 6:10:28 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/13/2005 6:29:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RS39:
Not seeing it on their web site, but if it is AMD-based then he'd be ordering a kit build anyway.



I haven't found them on the web or seen the catalog, either, but I was thinking they were probably AMD builds.
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