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Posted: 4/21/2003 3:16:04 PM EDT
I ordered what I thought to be a SAR-1, which cost me $339.99. When i finally got it, it only came with one 30rd. mag. My first one came with a 10 and a 40rd. After getting it home I noticed it was a WASR-10, converted to accept high capacity mags. I called the gun shop and alerted him of this and he said "I don't see the problem." I see a problem spending $339.99, for a gun that can be had for way less than $250.00. I am not blaming him because he just ordered it for me. How should I go about handling this problem? Thank you guys for listening and your help.
Link Posted: 4/21/2003 3:37:21 PM EDT
If you absolutely cannot live with the WASR, I'd contact the outfit that sold it to you and demand an exchange/refund. Chances are though, that they bought the WASR's for considerably less than SAR's knowing they could pass them off anyway.

Better yet, if you have a decent relationship with the ffl holder who did the transfer, I'd have him call and explain the situation. Laws vary from state to state but you didn't receive what you ordered and the company who misrepresented the WASR should be held accountable. If you don't speak up, they'll continue to misrepresent the rifles as SAR1's.

Obviously, they're motto isn't "satisfaction is our goal". It would appear greed is more their interest than satisfied customers.
Link Posted: 4/21/2003 3:49:02 PM EDT
complain and get what you paid for or your money back.. make sure you spen NO MORE MONEY then you have already.. let the dealer/distributor hack it out.
Link Posted: 4/21/2003 4:04:22 PM EDT
Mind sharing where you ordered from?
Link Posted: 4/21/2003 9:10:31 PM EDT
As I understand it, is the feed ramp the potential problem with single-stack WASRs converted to accept high-cap mags?

Please let us know - who are the greedy bastards trying to pass off converted WASRs as SARs?
Link Posted: 4/22/2003 2:44:30 AM EDT
Did the dealer state that it was an SAR-1? Some of the ads that I see never give a model number. They just say Romainian AK47. The converted WASRs seem to sell for around 10-20 bucks less than the advertised SARs. I have a WASR 10 hi cap version and IMO, it is every bit as good as my SAR-1. Actually, I think it is a bit more accurate. BUT if you were sold a SAR-1 and didn't get what you ordered, I would go back to the dealer as well if it is worth it to you.
Link Posted: 4/22/2003 3:39:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/29/2003 3:42:04 AM EDT by CAMPYBOB]
Link Posted: 4/28/2003 8:13:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/28/2003 8:14:37 PM EDT by Bloodhart]
I'd complain. Around my parts sar-1's run in the 330 range and the wasr-10 can be found for 280. And that's with the stock refinished. Here's an example.
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 6:16:48 PM EDT
I need some help, I have a SAR3 and I heard that AK74 mags will work if they have been modified, What needs to be modified and how?
Link Posted: 4/30/2003 3:22:33 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/30/2003 4:58:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 26OMinor75:
I need some help, I have a SAR3 and I heard that AK74 mags will work if they have been modified, What needs to be modified and how?



By the time you buy a bake mag and some special followers, you are spending most of the cost of a Weiger and you still need to modify the feed lips. And nothing works better in a SAR3 than Weigers, period. Buy at least 2.
Link Posted: 4/30/2003 5:10:03 AM EDT
Let me guess, your gunshop ordered this AK from S.O.G.?
Link Posted: 5/8/2003 6:55:36 PM EDT
Sorry for taking so long to respond. Well heres is what has happened. NOTHING. You see I am only 16 as of now, and my mother buy's my guns for me. She hasn't had the time to take me back to the gunshop which I bought it from. With all the waiting, I ended up shooting it. So I am going to keep it. The only gunshop around here that has AK's in stock sells them for nearly $500!!! I am talking about MAADI's and SAR's. Can you believe it. Well the gun has performed just as an AK should so, i'll live. Thanks for the support.
Link Posted: 5/8/2003 7:03:43 PM EDT
Nice move....admitting to a straw-man purchase on the internet.
Link Posted: 5/8/2003 8:49:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Kissel:
Nice move....admitting to a straw-man purchase on the internet.



It is not a straw-man purchase for a parent to buy a minor child a firearm. By law you must be 18 to purchase a long gun. Nothing in the law was ever meant to prevent a parent from buying their minor child a firearm. If so, then there would be millions of parents of minor children arrested for the "straw-man" purchases.
Link Posted: 5/8/2003 9:13:56 PM EDT
As Mak stated, there is no law prohibiting a parent from buying their child a firearm. If so how would anyone under the age of 18 hunt. It is a state law that anyone of the age 16 or over must purchase their own hunting license. If I can hunt alone, I think I have the right to have a firearm. I just can't purchase it. As for a pistols, the laws are different. Nothing more than a mere misunder standing. Thanks for coming to my rescue Mak.
Link Posted: 5/8/2003 9:24:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/8/2003 9:36:36 PM EDT by Mak]
This section deals with giving a minor a handgun, which is not illegal but the child must have the parents written permission. It is not a straw-man purchase for a parent to purchase a long gun for their minor child but I can not locate the law at this moment. They must be able to lawfully purchase the gun theirselves if they were of age. No criminal record or restraining orders, mental problems, drug use. I can legally buy any person a gun and give it to them as a gift as long as that person can legally purchase a firearm theirself. Some states have laws though requiring that if you are purchasing the gun for a gift, such as your son, that before the transfer can be completed a background investigation has to be done on the person receiving the gift.

United States Code
TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I - CRIMES
CHAPTER 44 - FIREARMS


U.S. Code as of: 01/02/01
Section 922. Unlawful acts


"x)(1) It shall be unlawful for a person to sell, deliver, or
otherwise transfer to a person who the transferor knows or has
reasonable cause to believe is a juvenile -
(A) a handgun; or
(B) ammunition that is suitable for use only in a handgun.
(2) It shall be unlawful for any person who is a juvenile to
knowingly possess -
(A) a handgun; or
(B) ammunition that is suitable for use only in a handgun.
(3) This subsection does not apply to -
(A) a temporary transfer of a handgun or ammunition to a
juvenile or to the possession or use of a handgun or ammunition
by a juvenile if the handgun and ammunition are possessed and
used by the juvenile -

(i) in the course of employment, in the course of ranching or
farming related to activities at the residence of the juvenile
(or on property used for ranching or farming at which the
juvenile, with the permission of the property owner or lessee,
is performing activities related to the operation of the farm
or ranch),target practice, hunting, or a course of instruction
in the safe and lawful use of a handgun;
(ii) with the prior written consent of the juvenile's parent
or guardian who is not prohibited by Federal, State, or local
law from possessing a firearm, "



Link Posted: 5/9/2003 3:03:03 AM EDT
Where was this SAR1? ordered from?
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