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Posted: 10/10/2005 12:35:55 AM EDT
I never have. It does have some punch to it yeah, but no where near a .308, or .30-06. I would say those rounds have alot of recoil.
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 12:37:33 AM EDT
[#1]
No...


Link Posted: 10/10/2005 12:42:14 AM EDT
[#2]
Medium, for a .mil cartridge, with too much muzzle rise in the AK platform.
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 12:42:36 AM EDT
[#3]
I've never seen a bullet of the size 7.62x39.

I've seen rounds of that designation, but not bullets.

As for 7.62x39 rounds - the ones I've shot did not cause inordinate amounts of recoil.
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 12:45:45 AM EDT
[#4]
So...why all the concern over the recoil of the AK47's as compared to the AK74's? I've heard that the 5.45mm round has next to no recoil (never got to shoot one yet) so maybe that's why the 7.62mm might seem nasty to some people.

I've always thought of the 7.62 as a smooth round. There really isn't much "snap" to the round when fired, just a smooth BOOM. But that's me.
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 12:55:33 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
So...why all the concern over the recoil of the AK47's as compared to the AK74's? I've heard that the 5.45mm round has next to no recoil (never got to shoot one yet) so maybe that's why the 7.62mm might seem nasty to some people.

I've always thought of the 7.62 as a smooth round. There really isn't much "snap" to the round when fired, just a smooth BOOM. But that's me.



Try it in auto.  I gaurantee you will shoot the moon.
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 4:03:45 AM EDT
[#6]
Not much recoil in semi-auto.

A question, can you even own rifles such as AK's and AR's in Hawaii?
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 4:09:50 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
... no where near a .308, or .30-06. I would say those rounds have alot of recoil.




If you think that's recoil, I'd love to watch your face when you touched off my .458.
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 4:26:17 AM EDT
[#8]
In semi auto I have no issues with the recoil in fact since my shoulder is bearing the force I tend to think my 9mm is a little more harsh but then again I don't think my .40 has as much recoil either. I do have some issues with the 30.06 if i dont put a rubber butt pad on that thing hurts
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 4:47:49 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
If you think that's recoil, I'd love to watch your face when you touched off my .458.



If you think that's recoil, I'd love to watch your face when you touched off my 20mm M61 Vulcan

PS: as for the 7.62X39,  not much recoil there, nice shooting cartridge.
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 7:01:18 AM EDT
[#10]
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 7:30:28 AM EDT
[#11]
compared to .22 the recoil is very high, and I like it!
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 7:55:55 AM EDT
[#12]
7.62x39 never bothered me, to me, it feels slightly milder than a .30-30.  The only thing I've ever fired that really kicked was .30-'06.  7mm Remington Mag doesn't seem to recoil all that much compared to .30-'06.  I haven't fired a .308, so I'm not sure about that.  But I can honestly say, if you're a male of average size, shooting a standard full-stocked AK or SKS, 7.62x39 is pretty mild.  
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 8:02:31 AM EDT
[#13]
Mild recoil.......until You bump-fire a full 30 mag through a MAK90! Holding the rifle with just Your left hand is a challenge to keep on-target at a 12 pack of cheap sodas at 25 yards!
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 8:02:49 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Nope, mild recoil, and I do shoot a select fire AKM fairly often.....no problem hitting a 100 yard steel gong with a 3 round burst.



My experience with an auto AK was a Krink.  Even holding on to the mag and leanng in, it was ugly.
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 8:09:21 AM EDT
[#15]
There is nothing about the 7.62x39 that says "high recoil"....
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 8:24:23 AM EDT
[#16]
Do you consider the 7.62 X 39 round a "High Recoil" bullet?

Maybe in a small frame pistol.
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 8:37:12 AM EDT
[#17]
Its hard to judge the recoil a round by itself. It varies greatly, depending on the firearm.
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 9:18:58 AM EDT
[#18]
Try a 12 gauge with 3in magnum high brass if you want some recoil.
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 11:13:57 AM EDT
[#19]
I'd say no and I'm only 5' 7" 145lbs.
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 11:18:19 AM EDT
[#20]
Not so much shoulder punch, unless I am using my Romanian wire folder, my father prefers not  to shoot it because "It'll beat the sh*t outta ya!" Now that's an "assualt" weapon! Seriously, even when using a wood stock, for some reason my cheek always manges to take the brunt! Any cure for that, or is my grip just way off?
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 11:25:44 AM EDT
[#21]
Doesn't have high recoil, but has a lot of muzzle jump, when I rapid fire (is there any other way?) I have to make sure my sights are back on target.  Biggest problem that 7.62x39 causes for me when shooting my MAK90 is the forearms starts to smoke!  

Link Posted: 10/10/2005 11:28:43 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
I've never seen a bullet of the size 7.62x39.

I've seen rounds of that designation, but not bullets.





There is ALWAYS one in the crowd.
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 11:30:19 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
Doesn't have high recoil, but has a lot of muzzle jump, when I rapid fire (is there any other way?) I have to make sure my sights are back on target.  Biggest problem that 7.62x39 causes for me when shooting my MAK90 is the forearms starts to smoke!  




beat me to it. Ditto everything......is there any other way?

I like the smell of HG's toasting.....kinda like incense.  Never could figure out what kind of "wood" were on the Maks.
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 12:21:26 PM EDT
[#24]
7.62x39 is a great round to fire in semi auto. Lots of punch and moderate recoil. I've never fired an AK in full auto, but i would guess past the third shot you arent really hitting your target anymore.
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 12:23:34 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
I never have. It does have some punch to it yeah, but no where near a .308, or .30-06. I would say those rounds have alot of recoil.



Moderate...

More than the 5.xxmm rounds, but not quite as much as the larger 30cal ones..
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 12:25:05 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
So...why all the concern over the recoil of the AK47's as compared to the AK74's? I've heard that the 5.45mm round has next to no recoil (never got to shoot one yet) so maybe that's why the 7.62mm might seem nasty to some people.

I've always thought of the 7.62 as a smooth round. There really isn't much "snap" to the round when fired, just a smooth BOOM. But that's me.



In a full-on AK weapon, being used as it was originally intende (eg as an automatic rifle), the x39 is much harder to control...

That's when it becomes an issue...
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 12:29:35 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I never have. It does have some punch to it yeah, but no where near a .308, or .30-06. I would say those rounds have alot of recoil.



Moderate...

More than the 5.xxmm rounds, but not quite as much as the larger 30cal ones..



Semi-Auto it's quite easy to shoot..snappy but not shoulder banging. The owner of my local gun store, a class III dealer, has said that the best thing to happen to the AK was a forearm grip as it's makes FA somewhat of an "accurate"  possibility.
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 2:55:53 PM EDT
[#28]
Do you guys who have a "postban" ak-47 with a "muzzle brake", find that it helps control muzzle rise, compared to the standard ak-47?  Just curious.
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 3:20:38 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
Do you guys who have a "postban" ak-47 with a "muzzle brake", find that it helps control muzzle rise, compared to the standard ak-47?  Just curious.




As compared to no brake at all, my experience has been with:

AK74 style brake is a big improvment over the AK slant brake.  The slant brake is definitely better than none at all.  Just my experience and opinion.

Link Posted: 10/10/2005 3:34:44 PM EDT
[#30]
No.   Guys who say "yes" are
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 4:38:01 PM EDT
[#31]
Nope. My WASR-10 feels slightly milder than my .30-30.
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 5:26:10 PM EDT
[#32]
Magnum deer slugs in a pump action shotgun hurt quite a bit, I can't say I've had anything with more recoil than one of those.
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 7:44:33 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
Nope. My WASR-10 feels slightly milder than my .30-30.



+1, that's pretty much my experience, too.  
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 7:51:07 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
Not much recoil in semi-auto.

A question, can you even own rifles such as AK's and AR's in Hawaii?



Most definately. We can't own any "Assault Pistols". Carbines and rifles are OK.
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 7:52:26 PM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I've never seen a bullet of the size 7.62x39.

I've seen rounds of that designation, but not bullets.





There is ALWAYS one in the crowd.



LOL!
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 8:01:47 PM EDT
[#36]
Well Thanks for your opinons guys. I didn't think so myself. I guess Combat Jack's point of Full-Auto fire becomming an issue is what most people are talking about when they mention the recoil of the 7.62.

I never shot a slug through a shotgun yet....I would image that would change my perspective on what recoil is.

I have however shot a Thompson Contender in .45-70 While there was a definate kick I thought it would HURT to shoot. That's about the "biggest" round I've had the chance to shoot so far. I guess recoil is a relative thing....Like someone mentioned the 7.62 out of a little Derringer would be considered "high recoil" as opposed to a 20" SKS45.

My first AR had a Y-Comp compensator on it. Bushmaster claimed it would cut recoil by some phenominal %....but after shooting it I was soon reminded that an AR15 doesn't have much recoil to begin with, so, to me it didn't make much sense to keep that ear buster on my gun. (That sucker is LOUD.) Anyway back to the point. Thanks guys, you confirmed what I was thinking.
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 8:05:40 PM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:
Not much recoil in semi-auto.

A question, can you even own rifles such as AK's and AR's in Hawaii?



Yes we can.  Not full auto though.
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 8:06:13 PM EDT
[#38]
Not a shooting a 6 pound rifle chambered for 270WSM
Link Posted: 10/11/2005 8:23:11 AM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Not much recoil in semi-auto.

A question, can you even own rifles such as AK's and AR's in Hawaii?



Most definately. We can't own any "Assault Pistols". Carbines and rifles are OK.



Please pardon my ignorance, what are "assault pistols"?
Link Posted: 10/11/2005 8:38:34 AM EDT
[#40]
For me the recoil is fine, but I think amplified by ergonomics sometimes. I have the short buttstock on my AK, but am tall and thin with long arms. Plus the butt plate is really small and slippery so moves around a little more than it would with a full sized stock for me.

I found a rubber butt pad on Gunbroker, anybody every tried those?
Link Posted: 10/11/2005 10:14:58 AM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Not much recoil in semi-auto.

A question, can you even own rifles such as AK's and AR's in Hawaii?



Most definately. We can't own any "Assault Pistols". Carbines and rifles are OK.



Please pardon my ignorance, what are "assault pistols"?



I am using the terminology written into the law itself. A "Assault Pistol" by definition of the State of Hawaii is:

"Assault pistol" means a semiautomatic pistol which accepts a detachable magazine and which has two or more of the following characteristics:

(1) An ammunition magazine which attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;

(2) A threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward hand grip, or silencer;

(3) A shroud which is attached to or partially or completely encircles the barrel and which permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the second hand without being burned;

(4) A manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded;

(5) A centerfire pistol with an overall length of twelve inches or more; or

(6) It is a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm;

but does not include a firearm with a barrel sixteen or more inches in length, an antique pistol as defined in this section or a curio or relic as those terms are used in 18 United States Code §921(16) or 27 Code of Federal Regulations 178.11.

"Automatic firearm" means any firearm that shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily modified to shoot automatically more than one shot, without a manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. This term shall also include the frame or receiver of any such firearm, any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or any combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a firearm into an automatic firearm, and any combination of parts from which an automatic firearm can be assembled if the parts are in the possession or under the control of a single person.


UZI's, MAC's, TEC-9's, Calico's, TEC-22's, AR15 Pistols, AK pistols, HKSP89's, and the like are all illegal here UNLESS you registered one before the '94 weapons ban, in which case you can own it, but never transfer it or sell it to any other person in the state of Hawaii.


***An Iteresting Side Note: Hawaii's ban on High Capacity Magazines concerns PISTOL magazines only. Rifles are still allowed to use high capacity magazines IF that rifle is not offered in a pistol form. Not many people know this, but the wording in the law is very clear. The only problem with that is, even if a AK47 pistol is illegal to own here, it still exists elsewhere. Some judges have ruled against AK47 rifle owners caught with high cap mags because of this. The exact wording of the law goes as follows:

Magazine Capacity: There is an outright ban on detachable magazines with a capacity in excess of 10 rounds that are designed for or capable of use with a pistol are prohibited.

Rifles are NOT included in the law.
Link Posted: 10/11/2005 10:15:39 AM EDT
[#42]

Quoted:
For me the recoil is fine, but I think amplified by ergonomics sometimes. I have the short buttstock on my AK, but am tall and thin with long arms. Plus the butt plate is really small and slippery so moves around a little more than it would with a full sized stock for me.

I found a rubber butt pad on Gunbroker, anybody every tried those?



You CAN change the stock.
Link Posted: 10/11/2005 7:22:01 PM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:

Quoted:
For me the recoil is fine, but I think amplified by ergonomics sometimes. I have the short buttstock on my AK, but am tall and thin with long arms. Plus the butt plate is really small and slippery so moves around a little more than it would with a full sized stock for me.

I found a rubber butt pad on Gunbroker, anybody every tried those?



You CAN change the stock.



I like the shorter length and traditionalism of the standard length stock more than I disklike it's shortcomings in the ergonomic department.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 4:32:24 AM EDT
[#44]
Atreides,

My 11 year old fires my 7.62 AK's with no problem but I wouldn't hand him my 300 Win Mag.  With a high post count like yours on a forum such as this, what do you shoot if it's not 7.62x39?

BTW, are you Paul or Leto?
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 4:59:38 AM EDT
[#45]
I used to be into my pistols ALOT. .45 ACP, 9MM and .357 mag.

As far as rifles go, My primary long gun used to be my M1 .30 caliber Carbine, But that's changed to mostly 5.56mm X 45mm out of my AR15's.

Thanks for the advice, and I am the great Muad' Dib!!!!
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 5:07:44 AM EDT
[#46]
I'd say recoil is quite managable.I'd call it moderate at the most.Definately not high recoil.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:01:32 PM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:
Atreides,

My 11 year old fires my 7.62 AK's with no problem but I wouldn't hand him my 300 Win Mag.  With a high post count like yours on a forum such as this, what do you shoot if it's not 7.62x39?

BTW, are you Paul or Leto?



The AK, AR, and all other sides use the same accounts, ergo

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Link Posted: 10/12/2005 5:36:12 PM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:
For me the recoil is fine, but I think amplified by ergonomics sometimes. I have the short buttstock on my AK, but am tall and thin with long arms. Plus the butt plate is really small and slippery so moves around a little more than it would with a full sized stock for me.

I found a rubber butt pad on Gunbroker, anybody every tried those?



I guess my eyes might be going and I just feel better with that rear sight further away, but,
shooting off the bench, the butt ain't even NEAR my shoulder; just the pistol grip handles
the recoil, so I'd have to say the recoil is about -nil-.

OTOH, the kick from my 12GA Mossberg 500A in riot configuration *is* a tad bit hard on
the palm...

RandyCOG3
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 6:04:07 PM EDT
[#49]
Food for thought;
Shotguns have a felt recoil however when hunting and shooting I never feel the recoil. Other seem to share the experince.

If someone was shooting at you and you return fire with the AK probably won't notice the recoil at all.
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