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Posted: 3/26/2015 11:08:36 PM EDT
About 3-4 years ago I found a barreled SKS receiver in my Dad's shed. He told me that it had come from a parts box in a storage building that a gunsmith had sold.
It was pretty rough but the bore looked brand new so I decided to fix it, I bought all the parts but couldn't get the bottom metal to snap in, I went seeking advice online and like an idiot listened to the "use a dremel" advice. After getting everything finished I realized what I had done because when you fire it, it comes loose. Anyway I messed it up and lost interest and to the back of the safe it went.. Now that I'm a little more knowledgeable I'd like to fix it, I know a great welder but I need some detailed pics of the part that needs to be fixed so that I can reshape it. Not sure if what I'm requesting is completely clear but I don't know how else to explain it. I appreciate any help. Barreled action as I found it. UPDATE: Got the rifle together with the new latch, looks to be good to go. I'll be shooting it tomorrow to find out for sure. Also replaced the beat up stock (had a split in it) with a brand new one I've had for 2-3 years. More pics to follow |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 11:13:58 PM EDT
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Quoted: About 3-4 years ago I found a barreled SKS receiver in my Dad's shed. He told me that it had come from a parts box in a storage building that a gunsmith had sold. It was pretty rough but the bore looked brand new so I decided to fix it, I bought all the parts but couldn't get the bottom metal to snap in, I went seeking advice online and like an idiot listened to the "use a dremel" advice. After getting everything finished I realized what I had done because when you fire it, it comes loose. Anyway I messed it up and lost interest and to the back of the safe it went. Now that I'm a little more knowledgeable I'd like to fix it, I know a great welder but I need some detailed pics of the part that needs to be fixed so that I can reshape it. Not sure if what I'm requesting is completely clear but I don't know how else to explain it. I appreciate any help. |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 11:17:24 PM EDT
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On the back of the receiver, the protrusion that goes downward and holds the trigger group to the rifle.
The trigger group pops loose when fired. |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 11:21:34 PM EDT
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PolyTech,Norinco,Yugo?
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Posted: 3/26/2015 11:34:46 PM EDT
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Definitely Chinese, I'm pretty sure its a Norinco
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Posted: 3/26/2015 11:42:48 PM EDT
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OK give me a few. I am no master drafter so it takes me a bit.
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Posted: 3/26/2015 11:46:39 PM EDT
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OK give me a few. I am no master drafter so it takes me a bit. Hey, I appreciate anything I can get, take your time. Thanks. |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 11:57:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/27/2015 12:18:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo94/1manoperation/DSC00445_zpsopqmxbyd.jpg http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo94/1manoperation/DSC00446_zpsbcvcqgiz.jpg Looking at it scape the .606 as I was eyeballing that imaginary line. That doesn't look like mine? Like at all. 
Let me go look at it, be right back. |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 12:27:50 AM EDT
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Completely my fault, I should have described it better, it's the little nub that I'm pointing at.
Sorry about that.  </a>" />
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Posted: 3/27/2015 12:39:03 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/27/2015 12:47:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryNo freaking way, thanks. ETA: sold out. 
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Posted: 3/27/2015 12:48:32 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/27/2015 12:59:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryYou sir, are awesome. I had no idea that it was replaceable, just added it to my cart and seeing if they have anything else while I'm paying for shipping. Thanks. I assume you just push that pin out on the side? |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 1:03:15 AM EDT
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 Yep |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 1:06:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat thing is really in there too. 
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Posted: 3/27/2015 1:21:08 AM EDT
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Got the pin out that latch isn't cooperating.
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Posted: 3/27/2015 1:46:38 AM EDT
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Got it
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Posted: 3/27/2015 5:59:34 AM EDT
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That is the ticket.
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Posted: 3/27/2015 9:28:27 AM EDT
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I have a Chinese SKS w/ spike bayonet but it does not say Norinco....great weapon, shoots great..I prefer it to my AK's.....
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Posted: 3/28/2015 4:06:27 PM EDT
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I never remember off the top of my head which one it is, but the trigger group will not latch into the receiver unless the TG is either on safe or fire.
Imagine if that's the reason why you broke out the Dremel in the first place 
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Posted: 3/28/2015 7:12:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I never remember off the top of my head which one it is, but the trigger group will not latch into the receiver unless the TG is either on safe or fire. Imagine if that's the reason why you broke out the Dremel in the first place |
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Posted: 3/28/2015 7:14:09 PM EDT
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I never remember off the top of my head which one it is, but the trigger group will not latch into the receiver unless the TG is either on safe or fire. Imagine if that's the reason why you broke out the Dremel in the first place No, I knew better than that at least.
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Posted: 4/2/2015 8:42:32 AM EDT
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Looks like a Sino Soviet receiver, does it take a blade bayonet or spike? If it takes a Spike, it's a Norinco... Norincos have stamped parts and the barrels are pinned instead of screwed in. Do you have all the parts? The trigger group and bolts are the hardest parts to find and most expensive.
BTW - When you say your looking for a Gas Cylinder, do you mean the gastube that the Piston Rides in that holds the upper handgaurd? Tapco sells aftermarket's and Numrich should have an Original. In a pinch you can buy a Tapco one, drive the pin out, remove escushion and plastic handgaurds, replace with original wooden part, reassemble and GTG. |
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Posted: 4/3/2015 1:31:58 AM EDT
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Looks like a Sino Soviet receiver, does it take a blade bayonet or spike? If it takes a Spike, it's a Norinco... Norincos have stamped parts and the barrels are pinned instead of screwed in. Do you have all the parts? The trigger group and bolts are the hardest parts to find and most expensive. BTW - When you say your looking for a Gas Cylinder, do you mean the gastube that the Piston Rides in that holds the upper handgaurd? Tapco sells aftermarket's and Numrich should have an Original. In a pinch you can buy a Tapco one, drive the pin out, remove escushion and plastic handgaurds, replace with original wooden part, reassemble and GTG. Back when I had one of these parts, the Tapco tube had the plastic guard pinned directly to a radial notch in the tube. It was not possible without some extensive work to install the stamped ferrules from a standard tube to retain a wood guard. If your LGS has a parts bin, you may be surprised what you find. Mine did, and I found quite a few SKS parts in there, including a complete Yugo HG/gas tube that I got for $10. |
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Posted: 4/3/2015 2:56:38 AM EDT
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Looks like a Sino Soviet receiver, does it take a blade bayonet or spike? If it takes a Spike, it's a Norinco... Norincos have stamped parts and the barrels are pinned instead of screwed in. Do you have all the parts? The trigger group and bolts are the hardest parts to find and most expensive. BTW - When you say your looking for a Gas Cylinder, do you mean the gastube that the Piston Rides in that holds the upper handgaurd? Tapco sells aftermarket's and Numrich should have an Original. In a pinch you can buy a Tapco one, drive the pin out, remove escushion and plastic handgaurds, replace with original wooden part, reassemble and GTG. I have all the parts now but didn't originally, not sure what it came with originally. I have a Tapco gas cylinder/tube on it now, like mancat said, you can't use a wooden handguard on a factory Tapco. I'll post some more pics, it's a mutt.
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Posted: 4/3/2015 3:02:01 AM EDT
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Tapcos don't have a pinned escusion that comes off so you can slide the handgaurd off? I was gonna say they make a cheesegrater HG that look pretty good if your building a Franken SKS. I hate the rail on the Tapco gastubes, they get in the way when using irons a bit.
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Posted: 4/3/2015 3:14:45 AM EDT
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Tapcos don't have a pinned escusion that comes off so you can slide the handgaurd off? I was gonna say they make a cheesegrater HG that look pretty good if your building a Franken SKS. I hate the rail on the Tapco gastubes, they get in the way when using irons a bit. I cut them off
The tapcos are just pastic that's pinned on.  </a>" />
More pics coming. |
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Posted: 4/3/2015 3:17:44 AM EDT
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Pitted pretty badly but here are the markings.
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Posted: 4/3/2015 3:19:39 AM EDT
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I used a cold blue on the barreled receiver but I'm not overly happy with it.
I have a brand new stock and handguard that I plan to use if I ever find a factory gas tube.  </a>" />
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Posted: 4/4/2015 5:10:51 AM EDT
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Is the stock original, it is cut for a blade bayonet. Look at the bottom front of the stock, the thin deep slot is for the blade, wider shallow slot for a spike. The markings on the receiver I believe are Sino Soviet, and a blade bayonet is correct for the gun. Looks fine, have fun with it! Good Job.
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Posted: 4/4/2015 2:18:36 PM EDT
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Is the stock original, it is cut for a blade bayonet. Look at the bottom front of the stock, the thin deep slot is for the blade, wider shallow slot for a spike. The markings on the receiver I believe are Sino Soviet, and a blade bayonet is correct for the gun. Looks fine, have fun with it! Good Job. Thanks, the stock is one I got from Sarco, it's cut for a spike Forgive my ignorance, what's a Sino-Soviet? |
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Posted: 4/4/2015 2:27:40 PM EDT
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Going to start updating the OP rather than everywhere else.
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Posted: 4/4/2015 4:19:16 PM EDT
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Thanks, the stock is one I got from Sarco, it's cut for a spike Forgive my ignorance, what's a Sino-Soviet? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is the stock original, it is cut for a blade bayonet. Look at the bottom front of the stock, the thin deep slot is for the blade, wider shallow slot for a spike. The markings on the receiver I believe are Sino Soviet, and a blade bayonet is correct for the gun. Looks fine, have fun with it! Good Job. Thanks, the stock is one I got from Sarco, it's cut for a spike Forgive my ignorance, what's a Sino-Soviet? Sino-Soviet SKS's are the early Chinese SKS's made with Russian purchased parts, machinery, etc. They closely resemble a Russian SKS, heavy well made stock, Blade Bayonet, Milled parts, etc. The Chinese eventually ramped up production numbers, cut corners, used stamped parts, spike bayo's, etc. Russian, Yugo, Romanian, Sino Soviet SKS's are beefy and well constructed. If you had one of these and a Norinco side by side, you would notice the difference in quality. There is nothing wrong with the Norincos, they shoot just fine....they just aren't as robust. |
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Posted: 4/4/2015 4:37:20 PM EDT
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Sino-Soviet SKS's are the early Chinese SKS's made with Russian purchased parts, machinery, etc. They closely resemble a Russian SKS, heavy well made stock, Blade Bayonet, Milled parts, etc. The Chinese eventually ramped up production numbers, cut corners, used stamped parts, spike bayo's, etc. Russian, Yugo, Romanian, Sino Soviet SKS's are beefy and well constructed. If you had one of these and a Norinco side by side, you would notice the difference in quality. There is nothing wrong with the Norincos, they shoot just fine....they just aren't as robust. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is the stock original, it is cut for a blade bayonet. Look at the bottom front of the stock, the thin deep slot is for the blade, wider shallow slot for a spike. The markings on the receiver I believe are Sino Soviet, and a blade bayonet is correct for the gun. Looks fine, have fun with it! Good Job. Thanks, the stock is one I got from Sarco, it's cut for a spike Forgive my ignorance, what's a Sino-Soviet? Sino-Soviet SKS's are the early Chinese SKS's made with Russian purchased parts, machinery, etc. They closely resemble a Russian SKS, heavy well made stock, Blade Bayonet, Milled parts, etc. The Chinese eventually ramped up production numbers, cut corners, used stamped parts, spike bayo's, etc. Russian, Yugo, Romanian, Sino Soviet SKS's are beefy and well constructed. If you had one of these and a Norinco side by side, you would notice the difference in quality. There is nothing wrong with the Norincos, they shoot just fine....they just aren't as robust. So its a military piece, not a commercial copy? Is there any way to date it? Kind of bums me out that I had to use Norinco parts to complete it, though I suppose if it was complete I never would have ended up with it anyway. The cold blue is wearing very easily and doesn't do much to prevent corrosion so I need to find something to coat it with. Thinking maybe alumahyde or something similar. |
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Posted: 4/5/2015 5:07:46 AM EDT
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I think Survivor's SKS forums had serial number data for the Sino Soviet SKS's, has something to do with the number inside the triangle. Yours appears to be 26 but I can't make it out well, I used to frequent that site but lost interest in SKS's other than shooting them. Just type the forum name into a search engine and look around there, they have all the SKS varients broken down into subsections Russian, Albanian, Yugoslavian, Romanian, Chinese, etc. Obviously look in the Chinese subsection and there should be a tacked thread about Sino Soviet SKS's. The collector's are real fond of them aond I guess some are worth more due to being assembled with surplus Russian parts. Oh, they have a mini EE and it's all SKS parts usually, you most likely if signing up to the site will find someone to help you locate all the right parts.
ETA - I'd buy a Stock cut for a blade bayonet for that, a cleaning rod, blade bayonet and source an original or OEM gastube assembly. They are out there, guys are always bubba gumping SKS's or Tapco fucking them into those hideous Stocks. |
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Posted: 4/5/2015 9:26:54 PM EDT
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I think Survivor's SKS forums had serial number data for the Sino Soviet SKS's, has something to do with the number inside the triangle. Yours appears to be 26 but I can't make it out well, I used to frequent that site but lost interest in SKS's other than shooting them. Just type the forum name into a search engine and look around there, they have all the SKS varients broken down into subsections Russian, Albanian, Yugoslavian, Romanian, Chinese, etc. Obviously look in the Chinese subsection and there should be a tacked thread about Sino Soviet SKS's. The collector's are real fond of them aond I guess some are worth more due to being assembled with surplus Russian parts. Oh, they have a mini EE and it's all SKS parts usually, you most likely if signing up to the site will find someone to help you locate all the right parts. ETA - I'd buy a Stock cut for a blade bayonet for that, a cleaning rod, blade bayonet and source an original or OEM gastube assembly. They are out there, guys are always bubba gumping SKS's or Tapco fucking them into those hideous Stocks. Found an original gas tubes today, probably overpaid but whatever *shrugs*. I'll likely keep an eye out for a blade bayonet and stock at KCR next week. |
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Posted: 4/7/2015 5:03:20 PM EDT
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Yep it's either a Sino Soviet or early all-Chinese production, mid-50s late-60s. The giveaway for both is the long-lug threaded barrel.
Suvivor's is a pretty good board, been there almost ten years. You will get good help if you plan on doing an original restore. Bubbas are not as easily appreciated. It looks like you're on the right path. |
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Posted: 4/7/2015 5:05:32 PM EDT
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Yep it's either a Sino Soviet or early all-Chinese production, mid-50s late-60s. The giveaway for both is the long-lug threaded barrel.
Suvivor's is a pretty good board, been there almost ten years. You will get good help if you plan on doing an original restore. Bubbas are not as easily appreciated. It looks like you're on the right path. Also since you said you basically found it in a barn/shed, I would look for import marks. There is always the possibility it was brought back by a GI from Vietnam.. Unlikely but more than a few SKSes were brought back, papered or otherwise. Doesn't really matter without the paperwork to go with it, but if it lacks any import marks whatsoever, the history becomes potentially interesting. |
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Posted: 4/8/2015 2:41:35 PM EDT
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Yep it's either a Sino Soviet or early all-Chinese production, mid-50s late-60s. The giveaway for both is the long-lug threaded barrel. Suvivor's is a pretty good board, been there almost ten years. You will get good help if you plan on doing an original restore. Bubbas are not as easily appreciated. It looks like you're on the right path. Also since you said you basically found it in a barn/shed, I would look for import marks. There is always the possibility it was brought back by a GI from Vietnam.. Unlikely but more than a few SKSes were brought back, papered or otherwise. Doesn't really matter without the paperwork to go with it, but if it lacks any import marks whatsoever, the history becomes potentially interesting. Yeah, there is an import marking on the barrel, I can't really make it out though. Something California. |
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Posted: 10/2/2016 7:07:33 PM EDT
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A little late but I just remembered this thread and thought I'd update with the mostly finished product. I still need a cleaning rod and a refinish of the metal. It's just a cheap cold blue currently. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 7:55:25 AM EDT
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That looks really nice, I was wondering where you found the stock?
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Posted: 10/5/2016 8:06:00 AM EDT
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That looks awesome. I would vote for some other type of blue for the receiver - maybe Oxpho or something - over Alumahyde. You could even rust blue it.
You should also grab some Flitz metal polish, and polish the bolt carrier and bolt. That stuff is amazing; use it on all my SKSs. It removes oxidation without harming the metal. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 8:17:51 AM EDT
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She's beautiful, great job!
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Posted: 10/5/2016 9:10:10 AM EDT
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Thanks everyone.
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That looks really nice, I was wondering where you found the stock? I bought it from Sarco a few years ago, |
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Posted: 12/17/2016 11:14:52 PM EDT
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Very nice, I have always liked the sks.
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Posted: 12/18/2016 2:20:24 AM EDT
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Very nice, I have always liked the sks. 
Thanks, It needs a refinish but I can't bring myself to spend the money. |
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