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Posted: 8/30/2004 4:08:00 PM EST
Even though I am new here I thought I needed to warn everybody about joeken firearms on their page the have a video and rivet tool set advertised when you click on the link your are taken to a different site called gungadeals.com where you pay for it. After a month I wanted to know where my stuff was the only info was a e-mail for gungadeals nothing else. After e-mailing them 4 times I tried to contact Joeken the were closed for a week. I finally reached them and was told that even though the video and tools was one of their products they let this distributer sell it?????
I asked how to get in touch with them, they said the only way was by e-mail hmmmm. I then did some searching all orders that are placed by mail go to multiple PO box's in AZ, the same as Joken. I then found a reference on the web that said gungadeals.com.da.ru, very interesting.
Needless to say I got nowhere with either company and I wouldn't trust either.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 5:49:50 PM EST
It is well known the good folks at Joeken are a bunch of crooks...
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 8:50:16 AM EST
Unfortunately I am new to the "building" scene and got burnt. Live and learn I guess.By the way is there any way to bend a flat correctly without spending my paycheck?
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 9:23:51 AM EST
That sucks I hate to here about the joekin burn...They'll get whats coming to em.
The flat.....I'd say save up a little and do er right...Its that live and learn thing.Good luck and welcome to the board.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 2:33:33 PM EST
I'm glad you posted this. I was looking at the same kit. I would call your credit card company and complain. That's if you paid it that with a credit card.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 4:23:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/31/2004 4:23:45 PM EST by mindtrix]

Originally Posted By kc2cfh:
Unfortunately I am new to the "building" scene and got burnt. Live and learn I guess.
By the way is there any way to bend a flat correctly without spending my paycheck?



Nope, your best bet is to just buy a oow receiver already to go.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 7:33:07 PM EST
Thanks for the welcome. Can anyone tell me how to get in touch with oow? I haven't heard of them before. Thanks.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 8:42:15 PM EST
kc2cfh,

Sent you an email with some info on these joeken firearms guys.

Mic
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 4:34:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By kc2cfh:
Thanks for the welcome. Can anyone tell me how to get in touch with oow? I haven't heard of them before. Thanks.



www.ohioordnanceworks.com/
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 11:44:43 AM EST
Thanks for the info MIC214, I have reported them to several agencies hopefully this will shut them down.

Thanks for the web address MINDTRIX.
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 6:35:22 PM EST
kc2cfh,

I hope things work out for you. I have read a bunch of posts (none good) here on these guys.
I have had good experience with the IFCC. Keep us posted on how things work out.

Mic
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 10:16:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/2/2004 10:19:06 PM EST by crffl]
According to NSI domain registrations both domains are owned by the same people

NSI Link for GungaDeals.com
Domain Name: GUNGADEALS.COM

Administrative Contact::
joseph cox: joekenfirearms@yahoo.com
na
703 airport road
winslow, Arizona 86047
US
Phone:: 5202890850
Fax:: -
Technical Contact::
Tech Support: support@linuxwebhost.com
Linuxwebhost.com
10 E. Baltimore St.
Baltimore, Md 21202
US
Phone:: 410.234.3300
Fax::

Record updated date on: 2003-12-22 05:38:49
Record created date on: 2002-12-26
Record will be expiring on date: 2004-12-26
Database last updated on: 2004-09-03 03:12:11 EST


NSI link for JoeKen.com
Domain Name: JOEKEN.COM

Administrative Contact:
joseph cox portjava@cybertrails.com
na
703 airport road
winslow, Arizona 86047
US
Phone: 5202890850
Fax: -
Technical Contact:
Tech Support support@linuxwebhost.com
Linuxwebhost.com
10 E. Baltimore St.
Baltimore, Md 21202
US
Phone: 410.234.3300
Fax:

Record updated on 2003-12-11 06:20:42
Record created on 2001-12-18
Record expires on 2004-12-18
Database last updated on 2004-09-03 03:14:18 EST
Link Posted: 9/4/2004 3:01:05 PM EST
Add http://www.kyimports.com/ to the list.
Link Posted: 9/4/2004 4:54:52 PM EST
i stay away from them also
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