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Posted: 6/29/2015 10:44:51 AM EDT
A buddy just moved from Marylandistan to West Virginia and he would like to purchase an AK-47 (among numerous other firearms) to celebrate his new found freedom. What is the best AK deal going right now?
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 11:00:26 AM EDT
If you want an AK to just have one - pick up a WASR from multiple vendors selling them.

If you want the "Colt 6920" of the AK world the arsenal Slr-107 is a great choice.

Depends on if you want to spend $500 or $1k. I personally require a combloc barrel and receiver on any AK I own.
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 11:12:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
If you want an AK to just have one - pick up a WASR from multiple vendors selling them.

If you want the "Colt 6920" of the AK world the arsenal Slr-107 is a great choice.

Depends on if you want to spend $500 or $1k. I personally require a combloc barrel and receiver on any AK I own.
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Link Posted: 6/29/2015 11:43:45 AM EDT
I'd go with a WASR
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 12:10:54 PM EDT
A new WASR is the best deal around.
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 12:23:32 PM EDT
Atlantic has a bunch of VEPRs yet. Very good value for the money
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 1:16:58 PM EDT
The new Wasr's are the best yet. Real Romy parts, & the nicest wood I've seen on any Romy gun. Yugo guns are nice too, but they don't have a chrome lined barrel, while the Romy's do. GARY
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 3:57:46 PM EDT
I would buy M92 and convert it to a rifle.
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 4:07:01 PM EDT
WASR10s? The same Wasr 10s that are apparently assembled by poorly trained monkeys at Century and have a bad pedigree for canted gas tubes and wobbly magazine fit?

Forgive me, I've been out of the AK game for about a decade now and have no idea how things stack up today. I'm guessing that Century took the hint and started QC inspecting their Romanian offerings now?
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 4:07:12 PM EDT
As others have said, WASR is the way to go at this point. I don't own one, but those that I have seen are fantastic. I do own a recent AES-10B from the same Cugir factory in Romania and it is phenomenal.

Another one to watch would be PSA. They're working through some headspace related issues right now, but there is potential that we could soon see decent AKs based on these rifles for as little as $450 all in.

Currently though, the WASR is unrivaled.
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 4:08:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GatMo:
WASR10s? The same Wasr 10s that are apparently assembled by poorly trained monkeys at Century and have a bad pedigree for canted gas tubes and wobbly magazine fit?

Forgive me, I've been out of the AK game for about a decade now and have no idea how things stack up today. I'm guessing that Century took the hint and started QC inspecting their Romanian offerings now?
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Century never assembled WASR 10s stateside. They have always been produced by Cugir in Romania. Century simply opened the magazine wells and added compliance parts. Yes, the quality has improved drastically.
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 4:14:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ncthorn1623:


Century never assembled WASR 10s stateside. They have always been produced by Cugir in Romania. Century simply opened the magazine wells and added compliance parts. Yes, the quality has improved drastically.
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Originally Posted By ncthorn1623:
Originally Posted By GatMo:
WASR10s? The same Wasr 10s that are apparently assembled by poorly trained monkeys at Century and have a bad pedigree for canted gas tubes and wobbly magazine fit?

Forgive me, I've been out of the AK game for about a decade now and have no idea how things stack up today. I'm guessing that Century took the hint and started QC inspecting their Romanian offerings now?


Century never assembled WASR 10s stateside. They have always been produced by Cugir in Romania. Century simply opened the magazine wells and added compliance parts. Yes, the quality has improved drastically.


I'm just repeating what I read all those years ago. It's good to hear that the quality has improved, I'll have to go look at one next time I hit the shop.
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 4:35:31 PM EDT
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I'm just repeating what I read all those years ago. It's good to hear that the quality has improved, I'll have to go look at one next time I hit the shop.
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Originally Posted By GatMo:
Originally Posted By ncthorn1623:
Originally Posted By GatMo:
WASR10s? The same Wasr 10s that are apparently assembled by poorly trained monkeys at Century and have a bad pedigree for canted gas tubes and wobbly magazine fit?

Forgive me, I've been out of the AK game for about a decade now and have no idea how things stack up today. I'm guessing that Century took the hint and started QC inspecting their Romanian offerings now?


Century never assembled WASR 10s stateside. They have always been produced by Cugir in Romania. Century simply opened the magazine wells and added compliance parts. Yes, the quality has improved drastically.


I'm just repeating what I read all those years ago. It's good to hear that the quality has improved, I'll have to go look at one next time I hit the shop.

You'll be pleasantly surprised. They're awesome. Now if only Cugir took a hint and added the receiver dimples, we'd have a proper rifle.
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 5:02:33 PM EDT
Thanks for the input everyone!
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 7:34:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GatMo:


I'm just repeating what I read all those years ago. It's good to hear that the quality has improved, I'll have to go look at one next time I hit the shop.
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Originally Posted By GatMo:
Originally Posted By ncthorn1623:
Originally Posted By GatMo:
WASR10s? The same Wasr 10s that are apparently assembled by poorly trained monkeys at Century and have a bad pedigree for canted gas tubes and wobbly magazine fit?

Forgive me, I've been out of the AK game for about a decade now and have no idea how things stack up today. I'm guessing that Century took the hint and started QC inspecting their Romanian offerings now?


Century never assembled WASR 10s stateside. They have always been produced by Cugir in Romania. Century simply opened the magazine wells and added compliance parts. Yes, the quality has improved drastically.


I'm just repeating what I read all those years ago. It's good to hear that the quality has improved, I'll have to go look at one next time I hit the shop.


As an Arsenal fanatic, I do look forward to gaining a WASR.
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 8:00:58 PM EDT
Are the NPAP and OPAP rifles ok?

After reading this thread I'll probably just get a WASR
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 8:56:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AKHappy:
Are the NPAP and OPAP rifles ok?

After reading this thread I'll probably just get a WASR
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They are good too. Just no chrome lined barrel. GARY
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 10:24:42 PM EDT
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The NPAP did fail the AK Operators union test recently.

They did the same test on the wasr and it held up. That being said I don't own either but am looking forward to buying a WASR. Even thinking about trading an arsenal for something i can throw around in the mud!
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 10:35:07 PM EDT
Why not throw the arsenal in the mud, an ak is a ak, I have two arsenals and both have been used and abused and now wear krylon paint instead of the factory black. No sense in getting rid of a good arsenal.
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 10:40:27 PM EDT
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Because the arsenal could be sold for 3x as much as the wasr? They are investments and for fun. A wasr would just be for fun in my collection.


Edit: The WASR's were on sale for $539 for a few weeks not too long ago on atlantic so your friend may want to wait until they go back on sale unless he's really itching for one.
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 11:02:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RabbitEars:
The NPAP did fail the AK Operators union test recently.

They did the same test on the wasr and it held up. That being said I don't own either but am looking forward to buying a WASR. Even thinking about trading an arsenal for something i can throw around in the mud!
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The arsenal deserves mud.
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 11:14:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:


The arsenal deserves mud.
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
Originally Posted By RabbitEars:
The NPAP did fail the AK Operators union test recently.

They did the same test on the wasr and it held up. That being said I don't own either but am looking forward to buying a WASR. Even thinking about trading an arsenal for something i can throw around in the mud!


The arsenal deserves mud.


All AKs deserve mud. I mean that in a good way though. Don't leave it out of the fun.
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 11:47:29 PM EDT
What about those DDI ones Aim has for $699?
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 1:46:18 AM EDT
I just picked up one of the new wasr's, and there are no dimples but the magwell has an insert on both sides internally that prevents all mag wobble. It looks like a new thing, not something I've seen on previous Romanian rifles. The rifle is flawless!




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You'll be pleasantly surprised. They're awesome. Now if only Cugir took a hint and added the receiver dimples, we'd have a proper rifle.
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Originally Posted By GatMo:
Originally Posted By ncthorn1623:
Originally Posted By GatMo:
WASR10s? The same Wasr 10s that are apparently assembled by poorly trained monkeys at Century and have a bad pedigree for canted gas tubes and wobbly magazine fit?

Forgive me, I've been out of the AK game for about a decade now and have no idea how things stack up today. I'm guessing that Century took the hint and started QC inspecting their Romanian offerings now?


Century never assembled WASR 10s stateside. They have always been produced by Cugir in Romania. Century simply opened the magazine wells and added compliance parts. Yes, the quality has improved drastically.


I'm just repeating what I read all those years ago. It's good to hear that the quality has improved, I'll have to go look at one next time I hit the shop.

You'll be pleasantly surprised. They're awesome. Now if only Cugir took a hint and added the receiver dimples, we'd have a proper rifle.

Link Posted: 6/30/2015 7:21:57 AM EDT
Lack of dimples on an AK is not exclusive to the WASR. Some Saigas lack dimples, some Chinese AKs, etc. It's a RPK style receiver.

The dimples add strength to that area of the receiver, same for the welded plates in the WASR.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 8:49:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By wav3form:
Lack of dimples on an AK is not exclusive to the WASR. Some Saigas lack dimples, some Chinese AKs, etc. It's a RPK style receiver.

The dimples add strength to that area of the receiver, same for the welded plates in the WASR.
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The WASRs and others you mention do not have RPK style receivers.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 12:28:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wav3form:
Lack of dimples on an AK is not exclusive to the WASR. Some Saigas lack dimples, some Chinese AKs, etc. It's a RPK style receiver.

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The SAR-1's had it, and the Dracos have them. Seems like it'd be easier to form them while making the receiver than to weld in plates afterwards.

And it's not an RPK style receiver.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 7:09:49 PM EDT
Taking the advice from this thread I went to a local shop that stocks a lot of the Century offerings and you guys weren't kidding. I was a tad bit repulsed when I heard $300 rifles were selling for over $500 now but for all intents and purposes the WASRs they're importing now are almost different rifles. Wood looks great and (much to the clerks disgust) all five that they had looked real good including proper sight posts and gas tubes. I see that the old slant muzzle brake was replaced with what looks to be a simple thread protector as well.

They had them for 599 which doesn't look to be to bad a deal, especially since you have the opportunity to hand select your own rifle. I know where my next paycheck is going.
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 2:54:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GatMo:
Taking the advice from this thread I went to a local shop that stocks a lot of the Century offerings and you guys weren't kidding. I was a tad bit repulsed when I heard $300 rifles were selling for over $500 now but for all intents and purposes the WASRs they're importing now are almost different rifles. Wood looks great and (much to the clerks disgust) all five that they had looked real good including proper sight posts and gas tubes. I see that the old slant muzzle brake was replaced with what looks to be a simple thread protector as well.

They had them for 599 which doesn't look to be to bad a deal, especially since you have the opportunity to hand select your own rifle. I know where my next paycheck is going.
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If it has the thread protector instead of a slant brake, you may be looking at the neutered model that has the bayonet lug ground off. Not sure why they'd be selling that version in your state, though.


Link Posted: 7/1/2015 5:46:36 PM EDT
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I see that the old slant muzzle brake was replaced with what looks to be a simple thread protector as well.

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If you are looking for the non neutered version with the bayo lug, and removable slant brake, Century's model number is RI1805N
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 6:24:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AKHappy:
Are the NPAP and OPAP rifles ok?

After reading this thread I'll probably just get a WASR
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Excellent rifles. A few folks have had issues with NPAP receivers but the OPAPs are tanks. Right now Atlantic has OPAPs for $609 and, frankly, THAT is the "best AK deal right now."
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 8:33:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By runner6m:

If it has the thread protector instead of a slant brake, you may be looking at the neutered model that has the bayonet lug ground off. Not sure why they'd be selling that version in your state, though.

That could be the case. I was so absorbed with other details of the samples that I didn't even look for a bayo lug. But you're right, I have no idea why they would be selling those here?



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Originally Posted By runner6m:
Originally Posted By GatMo:
Taking the advice from this thread I went to a local shop that stocks a lot of the Century offerings and you guys weren't kidding. I was a tad bit repulsed when I heard $300 rifles were selling for over $500 now but for all intents and purposes the WASRs they're importing now are almost different rifles. Wood looks great and (much to the clerks disgust) all five that they had looked real good including proper sight posts and gas tubes. I see that the old slant muzzle brake was replaced with what looks to be a simple thread protector as well.

They had them for 599 which doesn't look to be to bad a deal, especially since you have the opportunity to hand select your own rifle. I know where my next paycheck is going.

If it has the thread protector instead of a slant brake, you may be looking at the neutered model that has the bayonet lug ground off. Not sure why they'd be selling that version in your state, though.

That could be the case. I was so absorbed with other details of the samples that I didn't even look for a bayo lug. But you're right, I have no idea why they would be selling those here?




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