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Posted: 12/28/2003 11:26:41 AM EDT
Anyone. What do you think of them?
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 11:32:24 AM EDT
i have 3 and love them.
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 12:46:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/28/2003 12:47:11 PM EDT by jimtash9]
I have a SAR 3 that I haven't had the opportunity to shoot yet because I'm getting it refinished. I'll let you know how it goes.
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 5:04:24 PM EDT


 Galil side folder .223.  Love it.

 Just bump-fire it yesterday and today at the Hun farm.
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 5:28:49 PM EDT
I have a Saiga for a winter project, and it runs great in lowcap form for now. Metal work is great; looking fwd to the stock/fcg changes and hicaps coming soon.
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 6:56:30 PM EDT
I really want one, but not sure how to get the best bang for my buck.. any ideas?
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 7:09:20 PM EDT
Just shot my norinco 84s yesterday and a bunch of other AK's. For some reason the 84s always seems to be my favorite.No problems or failures and low recoil just cant ask for better.Mikepenn33, I saw your post on hometown and I'll be damned if I can find another 5.56 AK anywhere.Twice last week I went on an AK hunt and found nothing good. No good prebans or 5.56's anywhere in 100 mile radius of NE philly however if I do uncover anything noteworthy I'll be sure to let you know!And if you ever run across a poly underfolder with spike let me know.
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 7:38:04 PM EDT
My Sar3 is one of my favorites. You could convert a Saiga or get a Vepr. 5.45 is also very nice if you can't find 5.56. It doesn't make much diference to me. CB
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 10:28:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/28/2003 10:31:52 PM EDT by M-60]
I also own a SAR3.  Its a great shooter after the RSA FCG was installed.  Reliable and a great Car/truck setup.  Get the Wieger mags.



Edited to add photo.


The Pig
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 11:24:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 556sniper:
Just shot my norinco 84s yesterday and a bunch of other AK's. For some reason the 84s always seems to be my favorite.No problems or failures and low recoil just cant ask for better.Mikepenn33, I saw your post on hometown and I'll be damned if I can find another 5.56 AK anywhere.Twice last week I went on an AK hunt and found nothing good. No good prebans or 5.56's anywhere in 100 mile radius of NE philly however if I do uncover anything noteworthy I'll be sure to let you know!And if you ever run across a poly underfolder with spike let me know.


you got it
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 2:24:54 AM EDT
Yup, have a SAR 3. I had a OD NATO KVAR stock installed on it. It looks sharp. It shoots nice also. I still don't quite understand the perception that the three AK calibers feel so different when shooting. All three seem about the same to me.....
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 3:05:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mmsig229:
Yup, have a SAR 3. I had a OD NATO KVAR stock installed on it. It looks sharp. It shoots nice also. I still don't quite understand the perception that the three AK calibers feel so different when shooting. All three seem about the same to me.....







You need to shoot the 3 calibers all on the same day to make a good comparison,brother.
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 3:19:02 AM EDT
Bro Greg, I've done that!!!!!I still don't see all the hoopla about the 5.45X39 supposedly having such little recoil. I have buffers installed in them, maybe that evens out the recoil. Dunno.......
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 3:35:33 AM EDT
I have a Norinco 84s in-transit to me that I bought.... Mods that are going to be made:

- Open up mag well to take the superior Wieger mags

- Convert the rear fixed stock to a Bulgarian side folder

- Add plumb or OD K-Var pistol grip/hand guards

- Refinish it russian style

I know alot of people wouldnt mess around with a pre-ban like that (mods that I mentioned above) but this is going to be a custom gun built to my specs that I will use and shoot.... maybe even depend on it to save my ass some day.

I cant wait!
Tim
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 4:03:21 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BuddyLeeManofAction:
I really want one, but not sure how to get the best bang for my buck.. any ideas?


Well my route is a hunter-style Saiga which will retain the front handguard (but with vent holes) and get a new buttstock, pistol grip, fcg, mag well opening. Cheaper at CDNN but easy to find for about $230 at shows. About $350 when you are done with a Russian 5.56 AK.
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 6:22:11 AM EDT
Had a few 5.56 AK's here.

Norinco 84s, SAR3 and Valmet M76. Sold the prebans and am currently restoring the SAR3 from 15 months in a Kansas Chicken coop. The M76 was my most accurate AK, often sub-moa for 3-shot groups


The 84s was never shot for groups.
SAR3 would do 2.5" inches before it was sent off.
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 10:54:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mmsig229:
Bro Greg, I've done that!!!!!I still don't see all the hoopla about the 5.45X39 supposedly having such little recoil. I have buffers installed in them, maybe that evens out the recoil. Dunno.......





I guess what I should have said was,
that I thought the 5.45mm has the lightest recoil of the other calibers.Depending on the build,of course.Gun weight,bbl length.etc.I like them all.......but especially the 5.45mm,they seem to recoil like a .22 rimfire.
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 3:49:19 PM EDT
Pre Ban Norinco 84s; Love it ! Very well made no trigger slap and it runs flawlessly..
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 3:49:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By dinkydow:

Originally Posted By mmsig229:
Yup, have a SAR 3. I had a OD NATO KVAR stock installed on it. It looks sharp. It shoots nice also. I still don't quite understand the perception that the three AK calibers feel so different when shooting. All three seem about the same to me.....







You need to shoot the 3 calibers all on the same day to make a good comparison,brother.



3? I thought there were 4 AK calibers these days.
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 4:50:44 PM EDT
I have a custom AK-102 from AK-USA.  Great fun, and great accuracy.  Highly recommended.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/198651/102750.jpg
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 5:31:57 PM EDT
postban,
I concur on the accuracy of the Valmets. I had an M71. Easily the most accurate Ak I've used.
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 5:45:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mmsig229:
Bro Greg, I've done that!!!!!I still don't see all the hoopla about the 5.45X39 supposedly having such little recoil. I have buffers installed in them, maybe that evens out the recoil. Dunno.......



I think you should bring all your AK's to the range next time, so I can compair recoil
Link Posted: 12/30/2003 5:20:54 AM EDT
Bro Capitalist, I'd bring them all if Engineer would let me borrow his red wagon!!!PS when was the last time you let me rummage around in your big metal box?????
Link Posted: 12/30/2003 9:02:54 AM EDT
How hard are 5.56 mags to find?
Link Posted: 12/30/2003 4:35:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mikepenn33:
How hard are 5.56 mags to find?



Weiger (E. German steel) are easy to find, and work perfect in SAR-3s (from what I read) and work well with some mods in a Saiga .223 conversion.

Bulgarian waffle mags, while still somewhat available, are designed for the Arsenal SA-M5s and I believe work well in the others.

Weiger, $60 for a 4-pack from www.Interordnance.com.

Bulgarian waffle mags, check the EE or auction sites, as they are almost only available second hand.
Link Posted: 12/30/2003 5:37:15 PM EDT
I owned a Norinco 84s a few years ago. Sadly, I had to seel to pay for my SVD buy. Excellent AK, never gave me a single problem.
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