Warning

 

Close

Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Confirm Cancel
Member Login

Posted: 10/11/2005 1:06:49 AM EDT
i couldent sleep and was borred,.. so trolling around the internet i come across the beta mag's website,..and low and behold,...in there new products section they are making a 7.62 beta mag!

i was so excited when i saw that,.. i almost did a back flip!,....could you imaging having a see thru beta mag? that would send any AK's coolness strait up to the moon! especially on a krink pistol or sbr,..in 5.45 or .223.........

but that $#!+ aint gonna happin,..the 7.62 beta mag is for the f-ing NATO 7.62,....never before have i had such a urge to throw my computer off a cliff!

i emailed the company asking why they dont make beta's for AK's,.. i await there response,........

i know there are throngs of drums out there for 7.62,...........
but wheres the love for us 5.56/5.45 guys?
the only thing i have seen for the 5.56 is a 300 dollar drum made in china.,...not saying the chinese dont make a good product,.....but if im gonna drop that kinda coin on a 100+ mag,.. you can bet your sweet @$$ ill buy a combat proven beta made in america before anything else

i mean is our money not good enough for them? maybe i should buy a ar beta mag,.. send it to russia, or china with a note on it that says something to this effect.
"if you make me for AK's,....American AK lovers will buy me"

ok,.. tantrum over
Link Posted: 10/11/2005 7:25:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/11/2005 7:25:42 AM EDT by fullmedaljacket8]
Why not just buy a cheaper 75rd drum? Beta cost way 2 much $$$$$$$$$$$ There is no use for a beta in an AK.
Link Posted: 10/11/2005 7:30:07 AM EDT

Originally Posted By cruzie27:
You can bet your sweet @$$ ill buy a combat proven beta made in america before anything else


When was any Beta mag "combat proven"?
Link Posted: 10/11/2005 7:51:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By No1Here:

Originally Posted By cruzie27:
You can bet your sweet @$$ ill buy a combat proven beta made in america before anything else


When was any Beta mag "combat proven"?



+1, the Beta-C mags are by no means combat proven. Alot of people feel they are great for the range, but would never field them in a combat environment. Buy that Chinese drum, the Beta-C will never compare to it. I feel where you're coming from in regards to buying American made goods, but unfortunately in the AK world, "American Made" often means "Sub-quality Knock-off".
Link Posted: 10/11/2005 8:39:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BiggerStick47:

Originally Posted By No1Here:

Originally Posted By cruzie27:
You can bet your sweet @$$ ill buy a combat proven beta made in america before anything else


When was any Beta mag "combat proven"?



+1, the Beta-C mags are by no means combat proven. Alot of people feel they are great for the range, but would never field them in a combat environment. Buy that Chinese drum, the Beta-C will never compare to it. I feel where you're coming from in regards to buying American made goods, but unfortunately in the AK world, "American Made" often means "Sub-quality Knock-off".



+1 on that. and why have a Beta mag thats double the profile of a regular 75 round drum, and I am sure close to twice the weight. I have heard that Betas are notorious for jamming, and I have never had my drum jam. Keep It Simple less moving parts means less breaking or jamming parts.
Link Posted: 10/11/2005 9:00:37 AM EDT
Beta suck, watch what happens when you drop them on cement floors. They freaking BREAK! (Thats why the .gov never used them, and they have never been combat proven) As for real AK drums? Drop them on anything and they still work.
Link Posted: 10/11/2005 9:09:26 AM EDT
I've had good luck with my BETA mag. If you read the instructions and lube the mag with graphite as instructed you will not have any problems.

Below is a pic of my Norinco 84S2 and the BETA mag I adapted to fit it. It runs 100%


Here's the same mag on my RPK 74


The adaptor I made from a 74 mag
Link Posted: 10/11/2005 9:15:21 AM EDT
AW4EVER how many 5.45 rounds can you get to work in that BETA?
Link Posted: 10/11/2005 9:43:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AW4EVER:
I've had good luck with my BETA mag. If you read the instructions and lube the mag with graphite as instructed you will not have any problems.

Below is a pic of my Norinco 84S2 and the BETA mag I adapted to fit it. It runs 100%
www.hunt101.com/img/326402.jpg

Here's the same mag on my RPK 74
www.hunt101.com/img/326406.jpg

The adaptor I made from a 74 mag
www.hunt101.com/img/326405.jpg



Just curious, ever dropped that thing or put it through real hard use? Not knocking your set-up, but Beta's are NOT combat proven.
Link Posted: 10/11/2005 10:00:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BiggerStick47:


Just curious, ever dropped that thing or put it through real hard use? Not knocking your set-up, but Beta's are NOT combat proven.



Nope, never dropped it. As far as "COMBAT PROVEN" I realy don't give a flying fuck if it is or not!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's a toy I'm not going to go into combat with it. I'm 48 and out of shape. If I have hords to fight off I'll just break out this.

Link Posted: 10/11/2005 10:04:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AW4EVER:

Originally Posted By BiggerStick47:


Just curious, ever dropped that thing or put it through real hard use? Not knocking your set-up, but Beta's are NOT combat proven.



Nope, never dropped it. As far as "COMBAT PROVEN" I realy don't give a flying fuck if it is or not!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's a toy I'm not going to go into combat with it. I'm 48 and out of shape. If I have hords to fight off I'll just break out this.
www.hunt101.com/img/310441.jpg



Hey, I'm not knocking it for range use, just the original post called it "combat proven". BTW can I come over and play? Mmmmmmmmm Browning...................
Link Posted: 10/11/2005 10:20:48 AM EDT
The real beta has been tested multiple times by the US Military.. ...

And failed.


A couple years ago, the Army put out a letter basically banning their use. It has been credited with getting a few soldiers killed during the early stages of Afganistan.
Link Posted: 10/11/2005 10:55:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Stottman:
The real beta has been tested multiple times by the US Military.. ...

And failed.


A couple years ago, the Army put out a letter basically banning their use. It has been credited with getting a few soldiers killed during the early stages of Afganistan.



Well, I guess it is a combat proven killer. Just kills the user not the target.
Link Posted: 10/11/2005 11:23:00 AM EDT
Why use a $200 magazine in a $300 rifle? Seems like the AK market is not the right place to sell these things...

Spooky
Link Posted: 10/11/2005 11:44:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Spooky130:
Why use a $200 magazine in a $300 rifle? Seems like the AK market is not the right place to sell these things...

Spooky



Not all AK's are $300 rifles. There are several Ak's that sell for more than AR's.
Link Posted: 10/11/2005 1:49:17 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/11/2005 3:23:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BiggerStick47:

Originally Posted By Spooky130:
Why use a $200 magazine in a $300 rifle? Seems like the AK market is not the right place to sell these things...

Spooky



Not all AK's are $300 rifles. There are several Ak's that sell for more than AR's.



A couple of those reside in my gun safe...

Spooky
Link Posted: 10/11/2005 4:04:15 PM EDT
i used one when i was in baghdad,
...barely a year ago..i never had any problems with it ,...however it did not survive the second ied (destroyed in blast with weapon ) blast i was caught in
there are alot of private security types that do use them overseas. i cant tell how many times i saw those groups of guys doing what they do,. most had there beta on that little HK rifle,..and a few on there M-4's
its like any other equipment,..you have to care for it,.. esppecially in a desert setting,. if i have to go back to iraq i will have one. as far as the M-249's go they are way the hell better that the orginal 200 round box that would crack into little bits when it fell of your saw,.. and it will fall off your saw. the 100 rd sacks did not fall off nearly as much,.. but the ammo belt got twisted alot and break easily, leaving most of your ammo inside the pouch with no way to get to it. not a good deal when your getting shot at,.. with my saw i either had the beta in it or 100 rd beli laid out carefuly around the ring mount.,........thats how i rolled for most of our escort missions

Why not just buy a cheaper 75rd drum? Beta cost way 2 much $$$$$$$$$$$ There is no use for a beta in an AK.

your right,. for the 7.62 AK's there is nothiing else like those drums,..im getting one or two for my cheap little wasr-10.,.....however what about the 5.56 or 5.45 guns? i've seen but one drum from china in .223 and it was 300 bucks!

I feel where you're coming from in regards to buying American made goods, but unfortunately in the AK world, "American Made" often means "Sub-quality Knock-off".


ive noticed this to and its kinda alarming,.. a country like ours ,..but we cant make simple and effective copies of third world stuff,...


I've had good luck with my BETA mag. If you read the instructions and lube the mag with graphite as instructed you will not have any problems.

Below is a pic of my Norinco 84S2 and the BETA mag I adapted to fit it. It runs 100%


can you show me how you did that? mags for the 233 AK's are hard to come accross,.. at least the waffel ones i want,...
so that was a 5.56 beta? and a steel 74 mag?

im picking up this milled bulgy .223 tomorrow and thats what i want to use it for,...i have a '74 kit that i put together ,.but with the side folding skel stock i dont think theres room for the beta with the stock collapsed and hooked
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 12:15:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/12/2005 12:15:25 PM EDT by Sigurd]

Originally Posted By Spooky130:

Originally Posted By BiggerStick47:

Originally Posted By Spooky130:
Why use a $200 magazine in a $300 rifle? Seems like the AK market is not the right place to sell these things...

Spooky



Not all AK's are $300 rifles. There are several Ak's that sell for more than AR's.



A couple of those reside in my gun safe...

Spooky




+1


I don't see why anyone would want to use a beta mag when a Romanian drum is $75, and even at today's inflated prices a 100-rd Chinese drum is still cheaper than a beta mag.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 1:53:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/12/2005 1:56:07 PM EDT by Quarterbore]
Just to be clear... they are making a 7.62 BETA but that is a 308 Winchester for things like the M-14, AR-10, and FAL... I want one for my AR-10 but for the AK I will stick with my various Combloc steel drums... I have not seen one for the 7.62x39 yet but not a huge loss either!
Top Top