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Posted: 2/17/2006 6:09:53 PM EDT
Just curious to see how many have 5.56NATO AK's?? I used to own all 7.62x39 guns for years but made the switch to 5.56 AK's so I have ammo compatibility with my AR's and take advantage of long term US surplus if need arises or if imported ammo is restricted. Problem is the magazines and parts of course for the time being until the market catches back up.
Link Posted: 2/17/2006 6:12:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/18/2006 5:56:35 PM EDT by Commando223]
Just picked up my first 5.56mm AK today I cant wait to try it just waiting on some mags I ordered

Arsenal SA M-5s (No-Ban)


Link Posted: 2/17/2006 6:35:15 PM EDT
You can use the standard 74 mags but will need a follower from Robar and then just dremel the foward section where the neck of the round sits- these work fine, I have about twenty or so. However I like the original 5.56 Waffles so I got fifteen of those just in case. Yah I'm sick!!!!
Link Posted: 2/17/2006 7:30:27 PM EDT
I did a Saiga conversion.
The best $200 i ever spent on an AK.

KyARGuy
Link Posted: 2/17/2006 9:02:31 PM EDT
I have one of them 5.56 AK's

Link Posted: 2/18/2006 12:30:40 AM EDT
Nice Russian Sidefolder kit- was that a Romanian when it started out?

I wish I could post some pics of mine on here but don't really know how to- would be happy to foward some to one of you guys who could do so maybe start the 5.56 AK picture thread. I love the 7.62 and 5.45 guns but I have AR's and got tired of buying so many different calibers.
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 1:24:30 AM EDT
I've got a Norinco 84S2. It was made for the Canadian market. Thats why it has the 20" long barrel. The BETA mag works great. I made a new tower for it from an orange bakelite 74 mag.
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 3:25:21 AM EDT
Creeper, are you going to post pics of your Gucciano suma-cum-laude butcher job $5000 special 5.56 AK by any chance? Love to see it......ha-ha

BTW, if you still want to by my SAR-3 Bulgie side folder conversion w/24mm brake when I get back it yours......

OUT!
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 7:13:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/18/2006 7:14:44 AM EDT by 762hurts]

Originally Posted By Kevin_M4:
I have one of them 5.56 AK's



sigh...........

Link Posted: 2/18/2006 8:13:34 AM EDT
I have a couple Saigas in 223, one I used as test bed for some things.

Link Posted: 2/18/2006 11:42:58 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 2:57:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By J-L:
Creeper, are you going to post pics of your Gucciano suma-cum-laude butcher job $5000 special 5.56 AK by any chance? Love to see it......ha-ha

BTW, if you still want to by my SAR-3 Bulgie side folder conversion w/24mm brake when I get back it yours......

OUT!



Yah JL,
Yes my Gucciano butcher job 5.56AK, hardly- anyway yah I'll take the SAR 3 sidefolder when you get back. Nice comment to about my dad's basement jerking to soldier of fortune- sick fucker you got problems. It's guns and ammo damnit! They let you around all those guns over there yet you can't even change out an FAL barrel or let alone change the oil in your truck. Ha.
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 3:25:11 PM EDT
Have a BMK-92 (?) chicom Ak in 5.56 and love it. no picts thought because in it's non converted state its not too photogenic.
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 3:25:19 PM EDT
I am building a 5.56 AK 102 clone...

I would love to see a 5.56 pic thread.
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 3:59:14 PM EDT
Bulgy Krink in 5.56. Kit came from K-var a while back...



Link Posted: 2/18/2006 4:04:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TapperMan:
Bulgy Krink in 5.56. Kit came from K-var a while back...

199.197.64.17/pics/krink/556%20Krink%20Left.jpeg

199.197.64.17/pics/krink/BulgyKrink.jpg



Thats nice!
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 4:14:21 PM EDT
BWK-92 6 US parts

Link Posted: 2/18/2006 5:28:25 PM EDT
Hey Tapperman if you ever would want to sell that I would be interested honestly. Need a 5.56 Krink and have a few toys that may be of interest if wanting something else as well.
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 6:52:49 PM EDT
TapperMan

How do you like the Bulgy grip...

Ergonomics pretty good?
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 7:39:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/18/2006 8:12:24 PM EDT by spaceghost]
Say what you will! but I bought 2 wasr-3's and having a ball! could'nt find or buy a SAR3 and these where available for a cheap price and I don't regret buying them at all!
great little AK's ,functions great, reliable, low recoil( great for my kids and me), super accurate !and I can take shooting with my AR15 and never bring different ammo, and ,223 is always available,A great bang for the buck!
I have threaded the barrels for comp's and addad a cobra collimator sight , romy handguard and grip ,and romy side folder to 1 of them, the other is all original with a romy handle,

Link Posted: 2/18/2006 9:08:15 PM EDT
saiga 223

Link Posted: 2/19/2006 5:38:17 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 5:54:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RS39:

Originally Posted By LawDog205:
TapperMan

How do you like the Bulgy grip...

Ergonomics pretty good?



Fatter and longer than the std popsicle stick, and will have mine on once I get a LONGER screw for it that I wish kvar warned me about when I ordered it...



The old KVAR Gotcha!
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 7:43:14 AM EDT
Yep, I had to place a second order for that longer screw, too. It's a quite confortable grip, especially for larger hands.
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 3:23:50 PM EDT
I just picked me up a Norinco 84S today to take care of my "ammo shortage". Besides, it was a great excuse to get another AK!
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 3:31:16 PM EDT
Izhmash Saiga came out with 30rd magazines for the Saiga 7.62x39...

Even if it was in small quantity.

.223 never made it to the USA.....

I wonder if anyone in Russia actually used .223 Sporter Saigas?

I could see 7.62x39 30rd mags..i get that one...


But what if there are 30rd .223 Saiga mags out there?

I want some!

Link Posted: 2/19/2006 4:20:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/19/2006 4:22:37 PM EDT by Ductapeman]
I'm another guy with a BWK-92. I put black plastic furniture on mine-- looks like Mak's now, only-- well-- black. No flash hider yet; I'll probably thread it for an AK74 brake. I picked up a bunch of the Chinese mags when they were cheap (relatively), so no problem there-- though I since found out that the Bulgy plastic waffles fit just fine, so I picked up a couple. They look great on the gun. Wish I had some pix of it.

ETA: Did I mention that it is one of my very favorite rifles? And I have a bunch of rifles.
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 4:37:13 PM EDT
I was thinking about picking at least one AK up in 5.56, but can't seem to find any...what's happened to them all?
Where's a decent place?

TNX in advance.
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 7:33:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ScotClayton:
I was thinking about picking at least one AK up in 5.56, but can't seem to find any...what's happened to them all?
Where's a decent place?

TNX in advance.



Hey Scot,

What kind are you looking for? I might be able to get you an Arsenal SA M-5, if my distributor has them in stock. Talk to Commando223 about the details.

Bud
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 8:27:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/19/2006 8:28:23 PM EDT by Mak]

Originally Posted By Ductapeman:
I'm another guy with a BWK-92. I put black plastic furniture on mine-- looks like Mak's now, only-- well-- black. No flash hider yet; I'll probably thread it for an AK74 brake. I picked up a bunch of the Chinese mags when they were cheap (relatively), so no problem there-- though I since found out that the Bulgy plastic waffles fit just fine, so I picked up a couple. They look great on the gun. Wish I had some pix of it.

ETA: Did I mention that it is one of my very favorite rifles? And I have a bunch of rifles.




Mine had black furniture on it at one time also. I have a number of the 15 rd mags for $14.00 from CDNN which they have in stock again but for $30.00 I got my 30 rd mags from guys here on the site for less than that. I also have some 5 rd mags which can supposedly have the follower cut down and take 20 rounds. I picked them up at gunshows for $10-$15. I have found that some of the Bulgy mags work sometimes with no fitting or some reduction at the back to clear mag well, some don't work at all and are sold off. I have some mag plates that fit the Bulgy waffle mags for compliance.

The front has a US pin on AK-74 brake.

Link Posted: 2/19/2006 8:42:20 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 5:20:06 AM EDT
I like them. I have a Saiga conversion, two SAR 3's, KTR-03 and a Krink all in .223. I'm a reloader so the caliber is very user friendly for me.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 5:28:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 762hurts:
I wonder if anyone in Russia actually used .223 Sporter Saigas?


Yep. There is some number of both .223 and .308 Sporters.


Originally Posted By 762hurts:
But what if there are 30rd .223 Saiga mags out there?


As far as I'm concerned - no. :(
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 8:21:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Major1:
saiga 223

hometown.aol.com/spec4m/images/gun4a.jpg



What's the muzzle device? Looks sorta like the new SEI AK 14X1 Vortex.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 8:30:24 AM EDT
My only AK is a Norinco 84S 5.56 underfolder. Need to get some more mags for it, though. Anybody know of a good source?
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 10:13:28 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 10:58:53 PM EDT
SA M-5S


5.56 Krinkov


Someday, will be an AK-102
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 11:21:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mach6:

Originally Posted By Major1:
saiga 223

hometown.aol.com/spec4m/images/gun4a.jpg



What's the muzzle device? Looks sorta like the new SEI AK 14X1 Vortex.



The picture is not that good of the FH but it's called a preditor. Similar in design to the AR phantom. Got it from Ace Ltd. I did the full conversion on the rifle in 2002 and the FH is welded onto the sleeved extension of the fsb. I've decided to leave it as is since it didn't affect the accuracy of the rifle.
Link Posted: 2/21/2006 1:35:13 AM EDT
Excellent pics !

What sort of accuracy do you guys get out of your 5.56 AKs , at say 100M ?

Cheers
Steven
Link Posted: 2/21/2006 11:55:03 AM EDT
Arsenal Inc. K-101, one of the first 5.56x45mm AK's.





Link Posted: 2/21/2006 11:59:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/21/2006 11:59:22 AM EDT by Commando223]

Originally Posted By blfuller:
Arsenal Inc. K-101, one of the first 5.56x45mm AK's.

www.icehouse.net/blfuller/blfuller%20stuff/k101_weiger.jpg

www.icehouse.net/blfuller/blfuller%20stuff/k101_1.jpg




Can the Arsenal SA M5's use the Steel AK mags?
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 11:23:08 AM EDT

Can the Arsenal SA M5's use the Steel AK mags?


The steel mag you see in my K-101 is a Weiger mag. It required modification to the front reinforcement. This entailed grinding off .030" off of each side and they fit and function flawlessly. Beings the K-101 uses a Arsenal of Bulgaria receiver I assume that it would be almost exactly like the SA M5. I would buy one and try it.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 12:59:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RS39:
Have a Saiga and VEPR in 5.56, both nice.




ditto
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 3:55:05 PM EDT
Madtrader:
What kind of reciever did you use for the buttstock conversion? Was that just a standard Bulgarian Milled that you modified or a firing line reciever? Really like the way those are set-up.



Originally Posted By madtrader:
SA M-5S
www.boontheekul.org/dustin/images/sa_m-5_s/DSC04822.jpg

5.56 Krinkov
www.boontheekul.org/dustin/images/aks-74nu/DSC00043.JPG

Someday, will be an AK-102
www.boontheekul.org/dustin/images/ak-102/DSC00012.JPG

Link Posted: 2/22/2006 5:17:57 PM EDT
clear 5.56 30rd, and 20rd bulgy mags at K-Var right now!
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 5:52:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 762hurts:
clear 5.56 30rd, and 20rd bulgy mags at K-Var right now!



its true!

I hope they don't all go in one day
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 7:16:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bachelor_of_Science:

Originally Posted By ScotClayton:
I was thinking about picking at least one AK up in 5.56, but can't seem to find any...what's happened to them all?
Where's a decent place?

TNX in advance.



Hey Scot,

What kind are you looking for? I might be able to get you an Arsenal SA M-5, if my distributor has them in stock. Talk to Commando223 about the details.

Bud



TNX, no offense, but the price is important, as I don't want to pay for a 5.56 AK, as much as I've paid for my AR's....I already have a few AK in 7.62x39, but just thought I might get one in 5.56 Nato to make it a bit more ammo compatible...

Who has them available, prices, best, for the price, etc....I can't seem to find many availabe on the web?

TNX in advance.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 9:48:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/22/2006 9:49:02 PM EDT by STG77]

Originally Posted By Commando223:

Originally Posted By 762hurts:
clear 5.56 30rd, and 20rd bulgy mags at K-Var right now!



its true!

I hope they don't all go in one day




I did my part to make sure they do
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 10:01:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Creeper:
Madtrader:
What kind of reciever did you use for the buttstock conversion? Was that just a standard Bulgarian Milled that you modified or a firing line reciever? Really like the way those are set-up.



The Krinkov and the AK-102 receiver are both 5.56 Firingline MLS99 side-folding receivers. They are originally made for Bulgy triangle folders, and I had Firing Line mod them to work with the AK-100 series stocks. I really love those stocks!
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 9:39:34 PM EDT
I have to say those are really sweet. Firing Line makes an excellent reciever, was thinking about purchasing a WASR 3 to dismantle and re-assemble onto a firing line reciever then use an front sight/gas block register as an SBR but with the sidefolder 100 series. I have a stamped 5.56 sidefolder now but really those milled guns look great!!!


Originally Posted By madtrader:

Originally Posted By Creeper:
Madtrader:
What kind of reciever did you use for the buttstock conversion? Was that just a standard Bulgarian Milled that you modified or a firing line reciever? Really like the way those are set-up.



The Krinkov and the AK-102 receiver are both 5.56 Firingline MLS99 side-folding receivers. They are originally made for Bulgy triangle folders, and I had Firing Line mod them to work with the AK-100 series stocks. I really love those stocks!

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