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Posted: 4/26/2014 5:06:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/27/2014 8:12:10 AM EDT by Lightning_P38]
I'm looking for a 5.56 AK with a 16inch barrel. I'd like one with easy magazine availability - it'd be nice for the AK to use standard AR/M4 mags but I'll make do. What mfg should I look for?


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Upon request of author, I have locked the duplicate thread, and put a link to this one in. I will put a link to the other thread here if anybody would like to reference it.

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I would like to have merged it, but our software doesn't allow it without a lot of really tedious editing, and in the end makes the conversations from the different threads difficult to follow.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 5:27:32 AM EDT
Galil .

Arsenal has a good reputation.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 6:24:40 AM EDT
Originally Posted By DOG556:
I'm looking for a 5.56 AK with a 16inch barrel. I'd like one with easy magazine availability - it'd be nice for the AK to use standard AR/M4 mags but I'll make do. What mfg should I look for?
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Arsenal's SLR-106 series can be had for pretty darn cheap right now, and the new production models are very reliable. The CR models are going for $700-850, the FR models are going for $700-850, and the UR models can be had for $800-1000. There are AR mag adapters that will work, although I'd personally just bite the bullet and get a few Circle 10's.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 7:14:30 AM EDT
From the question i'd say; a converted Saiga, converted to take AR mags as well.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 8:13:29 AM EDT
Arsenal SLR-106 or Romanian SAR-3.

I hope that an importer can bring in the Polish AR mag adaptor!
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 8:27:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 0351:
Arsenal SLR-106 or Romanian SAR-3.

I hope that an importer can bring in the Polish AR mag adaptor!
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What polish mag adapter?
What gun model ??
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 8:36:18 AM EDT
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What polish mag adapter?
What gun model ??
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Originally Posted By 0351:
Arsenal SLR-106 or Romanian SAR-3.

I hope that an importer can bring in the Polish AR mag adaptor!



What polish mag adapter?
What gun model ??



Review this thread: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_64/154514_5_56_ak_which_one_.html
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 9:36:07 AM EDT
SLR 106 with circle 10 mags is hard to beat. If you have more coin this is a nice option as well and takes AR mags:

www.definitivearms.com/main_page.html


Texas AK designs has the BASTARD if you'd like to build your own AR Magged gun.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 10:46:54 AM EDT
I started that other thread an i think i'll be waiting on an archer. While i'd like to have an AK that can take AR mags i do also think at some point if you AR an AK too much you no longer have an AK if that makes any sense.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 5:44:58 PM EDT
Dont look at it like that.......think of two great platforms merging
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 5:51:09 PM EDT
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Dont look at it like that.......think of two great platforms merging
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AK mags>AR mags
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 3:04:25 AM EDT
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AK mags>AR mags
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Originally Posted By survivorman:
Dont look at it like that.......think of two great platforms merging

AK mags>AR mags


No way and deffinatly not for a 5.56 varient ((10)) mags are $40-45 vs a pmag for $10-12. Even if circle 10's are so durable and awesome it's not worth 4 times more than a pmag.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 6:36:19 AM EDT
I keep hearing the Arsenal's are hit or miss sometimes in the 106 series. I don't want to spend $1000 on a AK. I had a Norinco 84s but sold it. I regret that now.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 8:23:52 AM EDT
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No way and deffinatly not for a 5.56 varient ((10)) mags are $40-45 vs a pmag for $10-12. Even if circle 10's are so durable and awesome it's not worth 4 times more than a pmag.
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Originally Posted By glocktalk:
Originally Posted By bushmaster069:
Originally Posted By survivorman:
Dont look at it like that.......think of two great platforms merging

AK mags>AR mags


No way and deffinatly not for a 5.56 varient ((10)) mags are $40-45 vs a pmag for $10-12. Even if circle 10's are so durable and awesome it's not worth 4 times more than a pmag.

i disagree. how much does the conversion cost? $300? $400? that's quite a few cirlce 10's, weigers, or galil mags..
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 11:03:41 AM EDT
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i disagree. how much does the conversion cost? $300? $400? that's quite a few cirlce 10's, weigers, or galil mags..
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Originally Posted By bushmaster069:
Originally Posted By glocktalk:
Originally Posted By bushmaster069:
Originally Posted By survivorman:
Dont look at it like that.......think of two great platforms merging

AK mags>AR mags


No way and deffinatly not for a 5.56 varient ((10)) mags are $40-45 vs a pmag for $10-12. Even if circle 10's are so durable and awesome it's not worth 4 times more than a pmag.

i disagree. how much does the conversion cost? $300? $400? that's quite a few cirlce 10's, weigers, or galil mags..


I came to this conclusion a few months ago when I came up on the definitive waitlist. $40 for the circle 10 mags is high but you only need 5 or 10. They’ll last forever. As another post indicates the 106 rifles are running $100 to $300 less than comparable 104 and 107 rifles on gunbroker. Take the savings and apply it to the difference in mag cost and be done with it. I have 9000 rounds through a 106 and the majority of that is through 3 circle 10 mags. SAR3’s are great as well but the circle 10 will need to be taken down to fit. Black beryl mags fit both like a glove.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 11:16:32 AM EDT
How about a RobArm Vepr in 5.56?
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 1:27:38 PM EDT
The only three I have experience with are the Galil, SAR-3, and the VEPR. All of them work, and all of them work fine with their respective magazines. The Galil is the heaviest but the most accurate of the examples I have. The VEPR is a bit heavy for an AK as well, but is close to the Galil. The SAR-3 is the lightest but it barely trails the others in accuracy. Really, I would buy any of the three again or if I ever saw one at a good price. No real complaints (except the converted AK-74 mag that Century provided with the SAR-3 sucks and the 50 round Galil magazines can be unwieldy at times.....I'd stick with the metal 35's).
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 3:55:50 PM EDT
Polish Beryl
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 6:04:33 PM EDT
nobody mentioned the VEPR IV?
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 6:28:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DOG556:
I keep hearing the Arsenal's are hit or miss sometimes in the 106 series. I don't want to spend $1000 on a AK. I had a Norinco 84s but sold it. I regret that now.
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Most people on here love the SLR 106. I know I do. Want a cheap AK look at WASR and Yugo in 7.62x39.
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 7:09:18 AM EDT
Sig 556
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 7:56:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/28/2014 7:56:47 AM EDT by nightshade1]
Though the Definitive Arms conversion is pricey, the drop-in adapter from Texas AK Designs, formerly Magnolia State Armory, and distributed by The Canis Group, is still available*** and it works. I bought one for and installed it into my SAR-3. It required 3 hours at my workbench carefully dremeling material away on both the rifle and the adapter, and only USGI's and PMags work in it (are there any other mags? ;) ), but it works great and though the fit is looser than original now, a Weiger still locks in and feeds just fine.

***The item is as of this posting backordered. The Canis Group only accept PayPal. Contact them for an estimation on their next run and order a month before they expect to get it back in stock.
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 10:38:41 AM EDT
I don't like the idea of having to remove material from the rifle.
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