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Posted: 11/20/2012 5:57:54 AM EST
I have been a fan of AK's for quite a few years and have bought and sold quite a few. I am considering buying one of the new SLR-101S models, but I am also looking at buying one in 5.56. My question is - are there any militaries out there using a 5.56 AK?

My concern was the overall reliability of the 5.56 AK's. I know initially they had some issues with that model. Also, I have always liked AR's for 5.56, but I am intrigued by the thought of an ak and AR in 5.56.

Thoughts? Traditional milled AK or 5.56 AK?
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 6:03:06 AM EST
Get a Yugo 5.56 stamped. Zero recoil and fun to shoot.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 6:15:50 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/20/2012 6:18:34 AM EST by cletussd]
Originally Posted By vugger:
I have been a fan of AK's for quite a few years and have bought and sold quite a few. I am considering buying one of the new SLR-101S models, but I am also looking at buying one in 5.56. My question is - are there any militaries out there using a 5.56 AK?

My concern was the overall reliability of the 5.56 AK's. I know initially they had some issues with that model. Also, I have always liked AR's for 5.56, but I am intrigued by the thought of an ak and AR in 5.56.

Thoughts? Traditional milled AK or 5.56 AK?


Poland.
Some information on thier 5.56 Beryl.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 6:23:47 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/20/2012 6:25:21 AM EST by vugger]
Thank you for the replies. When you say Yugo, are you talking about the M85 pistols?

I thought Poland had a 5.56 AK. The Archer? I thought those were not getting good reviews? How do those compare to the Arsenal offerings?
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 6:25:00 AM EST
If you want an AK buy the real AK 7.62x39, If you want a 556 Buy an AR.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 6:26:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/20/2012 1:10:24 PM EST by combatengineer21]
I have suchka SLR106-47 and have 860 rounds thru it with no issues - I like it. I would get a SLR106 sidefolder, but they are not cheap and I don't like the fact that Circle 10 mags are $30. I still would buy 5.56 AK, but it is definitely cheaper to get 5.45 or 7.62 x 39 AK.

Note: I am not trying cause an EE violation as I was questioned by a member here - I am just saying SLR106 are expensive compared to a normal fixed stock SGL21/31
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 6:34:34 AM EST
Originally Posted By DIESELSMOKE:
If you want an AK buy the real AK 7.62x39, If you want a 556 Buy an AR.


Isn't there a bridge you're supposed to be under?
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 6:38:31 AM EST
All my AK's are in 5.56...I have Polytech and Norinco and they have all been flawless
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 7:45:03 AM EST
OP, if you want a 5.56 AK, knock yourself out. The ones that are currently available new (Arsenal SLR-106 and Archer) are good rifles, and as long as you use the correct magazines, you shouldn't have any problems with reliability.

You’ll find there is a seemingly large group of people who think “5.56 doesn't belong in an AK”, but I see that as more of an emotional argument that a substantive one. As long as you buy a well-made rifle such as one of the two mentioned above, it will be reliable and as accurate as it needs to be. Accuracy with the Archer in particular is said to be quite good (Arfcom member FAC did a review of the Archer, and he was getting AR-like accuracy out of it). And yes, there is something to be said for being able to transition into an AK without having to adopt a new caliber. I think if I was an AR guy and I wanted to buy only one AK, I would probably look at a 5.56 AK first simply to avoid having to stock another caliber. I know, I know…”7.62x39 leaves bigger holes” some people say. That’s great and all, but I’m pretty certain the paper targets and soda cans I shoot at won't care.

That said, the SLR101’s are fine rifles too, and if you simply want something different for your current inventory of rifles the SLR101 represents a good buy for a factory-built, milled AK. I have the SLR-101 and the Arsenal SLR-106, and like both of them. I have a preference for 5.45 AK’s myself, but that’s an entirely different topic.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 7:50:56 AM EST
Originally Posted By DIESELSMOKE:
If you want an AK buy the real AK 7.62x39, If you want a 556 Buy an AR.



At least you didnt post that nonsense with your caps lock on.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 8:22:17 AM EST
Originally Posted By AEnemaBay:
Originally Posted By DIESELSMOKE:
If you want an AK buy the real AK 7.62x39, If you want a 556 Buy an AR.


Isn't there a bridge you're supposed to be under?


Dont you have anything better to do than put people down, I know your perfect and all but man you need to find a life.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 8:22:57 AM EST
Originally Posted By cletussd:
Originally Posted By DIESELSMOKE:
If you want an AK buy the real AK 7.62x39, If you want a 556 Buy an AR.



At least you didnt post that nonsense with your caps lock on.


Thank you. Im getting better at it.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 8:23:40 AM EST
That was just my opinion nobody elses sorry.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 8:24:22 AM EST
My 106FR is one of my favorite AK's to shoot. And for those that complain about the mags being expensive, quality Wilson or Tripp 1911 mags are $30+ each for a 100 year old design that is domestically manufactured. Not an injected molded and steel waffle mag with probably 8 tims the material vs a 1911 mag that is made in Bulgaria and then shipped halfway across the world. I actually have too many 5.56 waffle mags for one rifle, I would like to pick up a 106UR one of these days.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 8:38:30 AM EST
Nothing wrong with 5.56 AKs in general.

In particular, I would stay away from the Golanis. Yes, it will be tempting to get "the real 5.56 AK" on the cheap, but the problems with Golanis are just too common to recommend them. Real IMI Galils, or builds on CNCW receivers by good builders should be fine.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 11:05:12 AM EST
Originally Posted By vugger:
I have been a fan of AK's for quite a few years and have bought and sold quite a few. I am considering buying one of the new SLR-101S models, but I am also looking at buying one in 5.56. My question is - are there any militaries out there using a 5.56 AK?

My concern was the overall reliability of the 5.56 AK's. I know initially they had some issues with that model. Also, I have always liked AR's for 5.56, but I am intrigued by the thought of an ak and AR in 5.56.

Thoughts? Traditional milled AK or 5.56 AK?



5.56 FTW!


Link Posted: 11/20/2012 11:41:31 AM EST
Originally Posted By AEnemaBay:
Originally Posted By DIESELSMOKE:
If you want an AK buy the real AK 7.62x39, If you want a 556 Buy an AR.


Isn't there a bridge you're supposed to be under?


ARSENAL
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 11:48:23 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/20/2012 11:50:55 AM EST by sloppyjoe]
Originally Posted By DIESELSMOKE:
If you want an AK buy the real AK 7.62x39, If you want a 556 Buy an AR.


i agree to a point.

do whatever you like, but im kind of a traditionalist.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 11:53:46 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/20/2012 11:54:34 AM EST by Stazi]
Originally Posted By vugger:
Thank you for the replies. When you say Yugo, are you talking about the M85 pistols?

I thought Poland had a 5.56 AK. The Archer? I thought those were not getting good reviews? How do those compare to the Arsenal offerings?


If you can find an M95A underfolder carbine, jump on it. I built one years ago when the kits came out. Best AK ever built IMHO. It's built like a brick shithouse.

Next I would suggest a converted Saiga 223 a la AK-101.

Link Posted: 11/20/2012 12:01:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/20/2012 12:03:13 PM EST by Sinatra]
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 1:13:05 PM EST
The Bulgarians also use 5.56 AKs in their military.




I have an SLR106 and an SGL21, I prefer the SLR106. 5.56x45 AKs are great.
Some of the 5.56 AKs had some initial growing pains, but all of the current production ones are good to go.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 1:24:48 PM EST
Originally Posted By HWI:
The Bulgarians also use 5.56 AKs in their military.


Yes.....and I sure would love to have that milled right side folder that the soldier is carrying.

Link Posted: 11/20/2012 2:17:24 PM EST
I have a Siaga conversion in 5.56 and my dad has a SLR 106. They are both a joy to shoot, though his is built a little better than mine. We both have 7.62X39 AK's as well, but once we started shooting the 5.56's, the others don't get near as much range time.

Pick up a Bulgarian 5.56 and you won't be dissapointed.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 2:23:22 PM EST

Originally Posted By sloppyjoe:
Originally Posted By DIESELSMOKE:
If you want an AK buy the real AK 7.62x39, If you want a 556 Buy an AR.


i agree to a point.

do whatever you like, but im kind of a traditionalist.

And 5.45 isn't traditional?

Link Posted: 11/20/2012 2:26:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/20/2012 2:27:46 PM EST by CATM-Al]
I don't have it in hand yet, however, I pulled a trade with another forum member for an SLR106F. Traded a BCM hammer forged 14.5 middy that I had built up (Magpul furn, BCM BCG, and Battlecomp 1.5), even up. I don't think mags are unreasonally priced if you get them from a decent source. Try Slim's Tactical. I got a great deal on 14 of them. Current version, brand new circle 10's.

In the end, get what YOU want. Do your research and enjoy your purchase I like the idea of having SLR's in 7.62, 5.45, and 5.56. Can you really have too many quality AK's and AR's?

S/F

Al
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 3:09:55 PM EST
Originally Posted By Stazi:
Get a Yugo 5.56 stamped. Zero recoil and fun to shoot.


This is my personal favorite as well! IMHO nothing beats a well built yugo in 5.56, although my lgs has 2 slr's abd they are freaking tits!
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 3:10:54 PM EST
Originally Posted By Stazi:
Originally Posted By vugger:
Thank you for the replies. When you say Yugo, are you talking about the M85 pistols?

I thought Poland had a 5.56 AK. The Archer? I thought those were not getting good reviews? How do those compare to the Arsenal offerings?


If you can find an M95A underfolder carbine, jump on it. I built one years ago when the kits came out. Best AK ever built IMHO. It's built like a brick shithouse.

Next I would suggest a converted Saiga 223 a la AK-101.



These would all be kit builds? There were never any imported, correct?
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 6:31:38 PM EST
Originally Posted By DIESELSMOKE:
Originally Posted By AEnemaBay:
Originally Posted By DIESELSMOKE:
If you want an AK buy the real AK 7.62x39, If you want a 556 Buy an AR.


Isn't there a bridge you're supposed to be under?


Dont you have anything better to do than put people down, I know your perfect and all but man you need to find a life.


When you quit posting stupid shit and pull your head from your ass I'll stop "putting you down".
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 7:12:53 PM EST
I'd look at Saiga and Vepr models. Biggest thing is adding a bullet guide, and that's not too much work. Cheap way to get into the platform, and Veprs are build like tanks. There's even an industry partner that makes and AR mag adapter.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 7:18:28 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 7:19:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/20/2012 7:19:13 PM EST by dryflash3]
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