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Posted: 9/16/2009 2:19:42 PM EST
Since I own neither, I'll ask here for input. Either a CZ vz-58 for $800, or a SGL20 with plum furniture for $1100?? I can only get one
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 2:31:52 PM EST
vz isn't a AK. The SGL is way over priced.

The market on AKs right now has dropped big time... there is some really cheap stuff out there. Check the market boards for deals. You'll save SEVERAL HUNDRED dollars.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 2:44:02 PM EST
+1 on that

Looks like the psycho Obama rush has finally slowed down or stopped, hell have you seen all the sales going on right now? J&G, Aim surplus, K-var, its definitely a sign things have changed. Ammo is still wwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy overpriced.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 4:41:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/16/2009 4:51:45 PM EST by JimWest]
Which one do you like?In the past parts and accessories were harder to come by for the vz.And the rifles were expensive.That is not the case now.The vz has a few advantages over the akms.If vz's had been around at this price back in the day I would not have any ak's.Well fewer ak's.

As for the sgl20 I would buy a Saiga in 7.62x39 and convert it myself.

Edit:Also keep in mind the where the ak was designed.It gets pretty cold in Russia.Not as much in the then Checkoslovakia.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 5:46:08 PM EST
buy a mak-90
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 5:50:53 PM EST

Originally Posted By Ermac:
buy a mak-90

LOL. THE standard reply from Ermac.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 5:55:26 PM EST
I'd get the CZ but then again I already have an AK.

Better yet buy the CZ and then do a Saiga conversion so you have both.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 6:18:33 PM EST
WASR underfolder from classic arms for $399. then you can get 2!
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 8:27:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/16/2009 8:28:28 PM EST by N4KVE]
Originally Posted By Ermac:
buy a mak-90
Listen to this guy. I just bought a mint milled MAK90 this past weekend for $575 at the gun show here. GARY N4KVE

Link Posted: 9/16/2009 8:32:52 PM EST
I was just doing some research on the vz58 and I think I'm going to be going in that direction. I found some cheap($11-$13) mags and think it could be a pretty damn good AK substitute

So now, who has a vz58, and what can ya tell me about 'em?
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 9:21:14 PM EST
I'd have to put my weight behind what the previous posters have said. I would buy an MAK-90, put a traditional stock and pistol grip. Then you got a VERY good AK, relatively cheap.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 2:10:15 PM EST
There are lots of good, much cheaper AKs to be had. Look for a SAR-1 and have it refinished and debanned (not a WASR). Pick up a sanitized East German MPi-KM kit from APEX, a NDS-1 receiver, a Romanian chrome lined barrel and have it built by one of the smiths. The MAK-90 suggestion offered above is sage advice.

I think the Arsenal is overpriced, but a SLR-107FR would be great for $800 or less.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 2:21:06 PM EST
De-Banned SAR-1.

Love it.

Link Posted: 9/17/2009 3:30:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/17/2009 3:31:34 PM EST by Clockwork138]
Originally Posted By Beerswimmer:
I was just doing some research on the vz58 and I think I'm going to be going in that direction. I found some cheap($11-$13) mags and think it could be a pretty damn good AK substitute

So now, who has a vz58, and what can ya tell me about 'em?


Are the $11-$13 magazines AK mags? If so they won't work in the '58. The '58 has it's own magazine. They seem to be going for around $20. Just making sure you don't waste any money.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 4:00:30 PM EST
Hello,

Go with the SGL 20. There are many much parts and accessories for the AK platform.

Check Gunbroker, you should be able to pick one up for $800.00.
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