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Posted: 2/10/2009 6:11:04 PM EDT
So I bought this MAK 90 back in December. It had this stock on it and appeared to have never been fired.
I picked it up and set out to deban it. The first order of business was to sell the crappy stock set... 
...and order some new laminated wood from Ironwood Designs... which took me about a month and a half to get! 
The next order of business was to get that barrel threaded! Tapco It has been pointed out that Chinese AK's don't usually have threaded muzzles, but it was something that I wanted so I did it. 
A buddy of mine had a threading die so he cut the threads for me... Muzzle Brake Die 
As you can see I need to drill in the plunger on the FSB to keep the brake from unscrewing! Here's the stock mocked up on the rifle! 
Next week I'll order my new trigger from Red Star Arms so I can complete the debanning process.... ... and later on this week I will get started on staining the wood. I've talked to Clandestine about the method that he used to do Veronika and I think I'll use that method. I'll keep ya'll posted on the project! 
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Posted: 2/10/2009 6:50:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/11/2009 4:37:59 AM EDT
It looks great! Put a finish on that wood asap or dirt and grime will penetrate.
FYI, every Chinese rifle that I've ever seen made before 1990 had a threaded barrel and a few post 1990s have threaded barrels. Part of the 1989 gun grab bill forced them to remove the threads because they are too dangerous. |
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Posted: 2/11/2009 5:39:00 AM EDT
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It looks great! Put a finish on that wood asap or dirt and grime will penetrate. QFT |
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Posted: 2/11/2009 6:02:04 AM EDT
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It looks great! Put a finish on that wood asap or dirt and grime will penetrate. QFT Yeah, I took those pics immediatly after fitting the stock to the gun. I have all of the supplies to stain the stock at work. I'll take pics throughout the process and post them here!
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Posted: 2/11/2009 5:31:22 PM EDT
I am working on the same progect but with a milled mak90 and I am putting a folding bayonet FSB on it.
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Posted: 2/11/2009 6:36:56 PM EDT
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I am working on the same progect but with a milled mak90 and I am putting a folding bayonet FSB on it. Yeah, I looked and looked but all I could find was $300 FSB's with folding bayonets on them. If I was willing to spend that on a FSB, I would just assume buy a Polytech, LOL....  
If I could find a FSB like the top one in this picture, I could weld on one of those bolt on bayonets... 
... anybody have one? 
- Clint |
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Posted: 2/11/2009 6:53:19 PM EDT
This is my debanned MAK90
I used american walnut finish for the wood. It is ironwood, and I opted for the walnut not laminate. This also was an angle cut capped receiver so it took a bit of pounding to get that cap off and I had to shave the weld off the inside of the trunnion. Added a us grip, tapco trigger group, a us gas piston, and an ak74 buttplate and cleaning kit. I wanted to add a bayonet but couldn't find one that was in that good of condition. Excellent job on the barrel threading. I wish I had that opportunity. Edit: I also put a romanian upper receiver on it because I like the look better. I was just going for looks... Fun isn't it?
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Posted: 2/11/2009 9:52:22 PM EDT
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This is my debanned MAK90 I used american walnut finish for the wood. It is ironwood, and I opted for the walnut not laminate. This also was an angle cut capped receiver so it took a bit of pounding to get that cap off and I had to shave the weld off the inside of the trunnion. Added a us grip, tapco trigger group, a us gas piston, and an ak74 buttplate and cleaning kit. I wanted to add a bayonet but couldn't find one that was in that good of condition. Excellent job on the barrel threading. I wish I had that opportunity. Edit: I also put a romanian upper receiver on it because I like the look better. I was just going for looks... Fun isn't it?
http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr170/neawalker/IMG_2914.jpg http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr170/neawalker/gunstock.jpg Man that's a good lookin rifle! I almost got some walnut too but decided I would get walnut when I do my Yugo....
I'm actually looking for one of the MAK 90's with the underfolder stock holes, so I can convert that next!
- Clint |
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Posted: 2/12/2009 4:43:33 AM EDT
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I am working on the same progect but with a milled mak90 and I am putting a folding bayonet FSB on it. Yeah, I looked and looked but all I could find was $300 FSB's with folding bayonets on them. If I was willing to spend that on a FSB, I would just assume buy a Polytech, LOL....
If I could find a FSB like the top one in this picture, I could weld on one of those bolt on bayonets... http://i42.tinypic.com/35849hl.jpg ... anybody have one?
- Clint I paid alot for the underfolding bayo FSB but I figure with a milled rec. I'll have a poor mans Polytech Legend when I'm done |
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Posted: 2/12/2009 12:53:27 PM EDT
nice rifles guys, alaskacajun, thats some really nice furniture on the mak congrats. so many stains to choose from when i did my mak, finally decided on red mahogany, and also just finished up my 2nd thumbhole stock. alaskacajun cant wait for the finish product, lets see some pics
heres mine 
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Posted: 2/12/2009 7:25:25 PM EDT
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nice rifles guys, alaskacajun, thats some really nice furniture on the mak congrats. so many stains to choose from when i did my mak, finally decided on red mahogany, and also just finished up my 2nd thumbhole stock. alaskacajun cant wait for the finish product, lets see some pics heres mine http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/kadiindo/cz527nnorinco009.jpg Thanks 671ar, that's a nice rifle... I'm gonna stain mine with either a cherry stain that I already had from another AK project or the Minwax Red Oak 215 that Clandestine used... but I haven't decided yet!
One of my co-workers is stripping the finish off of his Romy right now. We are gonna stain them at the same time... I'll keep this thread updated with pics! Thanks for the replies guys! - Clint |
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Posted: 2/13/2009 5:01:53 AM EDT
If you buy a bulgarian ak-47 fsb with the clean rod holder it comes with the detent hole, a spring and a dremeled nail bit is all you need to make your own spring and detent.
www.k-varcorp.com or www.armsof america should have those ak-47 fsb, they are not chinese, but work and look just the same. This could be the one check your fsb hole spacing...................... http://www.k-var.com/shop/product.php?productid=16354&cat=290&page=1 |
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Posted: 2/13/2009 11:09:47 PM EDT
Well I started the process of staining the wood tonight. I sanded it all by hand with some 220 then some 600 grit sand paper.
Clandestine told me to use some red food color to stain the wood, so I did... 
The stain color I chose is "Sedona Red 222" by Minwax. Right now the wood is sitting on my kitchen table waiting to be washed and dried. Tomorrow I'll start staining the wood. I guess it's pretty apparent what color I'm going for.... 
(this is just food coloring) 
I'll post more tomorrow!
- Clint |
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Posted: 2/13/2009 11:24:11 PM EDT
Just washed off the food coloring....
- Clint |
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Posted: 2/14/2009 10:36:41 AM EDT
I took this one right before I stained the inside of the handguards! 
Here's the finished product.... now I think it's ready for Poly! I know the pics make the color seem uneven but I think that's just the effect of the flash... it actually looks perfect in the sunlight! 
- Clint |
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Posted: 2/15/2009 7:31:39 AM EDT
Here they are with about 5 coats of Poly... I found out that the top handguard was cracked in 2 places so I Epoxied them back together and instaled them on the gastube to dry and cure. These pictures don't do the finish any justice. The grain is filling in and they are starting to shine! - Clint |
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Posted: 2/15/2009 7:34:56 AM EDT
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http://i44.tinypic.com/34rjg5c.jpg http://i40.tinypic.com/qy7chu.jpg I took this one right before I stained the inside of the handguards! http://i42.tinypic.com/vngvmc.jpg Here's the finished product.... now I think it's ready for Poly! I know the pics make the color seem uneven but I think that's just the effect of the flash... it actually looks perfect in the sunlight! http://i39.tinypic.com/1pbjag.jpg - Clint Clint, The way you did that is Exactly how I did the wood on Veronica. You project is coming along nicely
Just take you time in building up the poly finish. It wil take a good amount of coats to get it right. Whenevr I have experienced any cracking with my woood on my rifles I use Superglue. When you use superglue it really penetrates the wood fibers and bonds things well. Expoxy works good as well but dosent penetrate the wood as well. Keep us posted Clint. Shes gonna be a looker 
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Posted: 2/15/2009 8:36:35 AM EDT
Thanks dood...
About every 3 or 4 hours I go in there and sand a little, then put on another coat. If I keep it up at this rate I figure I'll have it finished by next winter!
- Clint |
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Posted: 2/15/2009 10:00:23 PM EDT
8 coats I think.... i'm starting to lose count, but the grain is starting to fill in nicely! - Clint |
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Posted: 2/16/2009 7:08:17 AM EDT
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http://i39.tinypic.com/dgm42x.jpg 8 coats I think.... i'm starting to lose count, but the grain is starting to fill in nicely! - Clint Clint, thats looking damn good. Have you tracked down a buttplate,trap door and butttplate screws? If not this should fit: K-Var Butt Plate Set Chad
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Posted: 2/16/2009 1:14:43 PM EDT
Yeah Chad, I got one locally!
- Clint |
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Posted: 2/16/2009 1:43:20 PM EDT
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Yeah Chad, I gopt one locally!
- Clint Sweet! One thing I forgot to mention is the Ironwood pistol grips lack a steel bushing at the bottom where the pistol grip screw head rests. Without some kind of bushing the pistol grip will crack when the pistol grip screw is tightened or under recoil. I used a washer and blued it. I then Epoxied it into the recess to keep everything from cracking. You may have already figured this out but I thought I would throw that out there. Are you happy with the color? |
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Posted: 2/16/2009 4:47:32 PM EDT
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Yeah Chad, I gopt one locally!
- Clint Sweet! One thing I forgot to mention is the Ironwood pistol grips lack a steel bushing at the bottom where the pistol grip screw head rests. Without some kind of bushing the pistol grip will crack when the pistol grip screw is tightened or under recoil. I used a washer and blued it. I then Epoxied it into the recess to keep everything from cracking. You may have already figured this out but I thought I would throw that out there. Are you happy with the color? Actually all I had available to me was the longer Chinese bolt so I added 4 washers and epoxied those in there to lengthen and strengthen the pistol grip. It worked great!
I love the color BTW. I sat there looking at all the options and even had the color you used in my hand at one point, but wanted to go a little darker. I saw the "Sedona" color and it was only a shade darker so I went with it. I think it looks badass on the rifle! I need to polish my bolt, but I digress......
I ended up paying $1 for the buttplate, and all the screws for the stock and the buttplate!
- Clint |
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Posted: 2/16/2009 9:06:03 PM EDT
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Yeah Chad, I gopt one locally!
- Clint Sweet! One thing I forgot to mention is the Ironwood pistol grips lack a steel bushing at the bottom where the pistol grip screw head rests. Without some kind of bushing the pistol grip will crack when the pistol grip screw is tightened or under recoil. I used a washer and blued it. I then Epoxied it into the recess to keep everything from cracking. You may have already figured this out but I thought I would throw that out there. Are you happy with the color? Actually all I had available to me was the longer Chinese bolt so I added 4 washers and epoxied those in there to lengthen and strengthen the pistol grip. It worked great!
I love the color BTW. I sat there looking at all the options and even had the color you used in my hand at one point, but wanted to go a little darker. I saw the "Sedona" color and it was only a shade darker so I went with it. I think it looks badass on the rifle! I need to polish my bolt, but I digress......
I ended up paying $1 for the buttplate, and all the screws for the stock and the buttplate!
- Clint Good deal on the Buttplate Clint. Im glad you like the color. You can control the intensity of the red by applying more stain in between coats of poly. Its lookin great Im not sure what it costs to send something from AK to MD but if you want I can polish your bolt for you if you want. No charge buddy, just cover return shipping. Youve been very kind, and always gone out of your way to compliment my work. If you take up my offer you can send it to the shop I work for (FFL). I can polish up your RSA trigger kit too for more consistent function. Take care man. Keep us updated on your AK
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Posted: 2/16/2009 9:46:38 PM EDT
Chad that's pretty nice of you to offer that... I may even take you up on it...
I got to 13 coats tonight... here's the progress! 
I would have given up long ago, but "Veronika" keeps me going! I finally got all the major ripples out and am starting to get to the point where I think I can start the finishing process! Thanks again for all your help! - Clint |
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Posted: 2/17/2009 6:26:56 AM EDT
Very nice!
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Posted: 2/17/2009 11:08:25 AM EDT
Small update, I have 14 coats of Poly on today and am about to put 15 on in a few minutes... here's what it looked like this morning mocked up on the rifle!
- Clint |
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Posted: 2/17/2009 12:34:34 PM EDT
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Small update, I have 14 coats of Poly on today and am about to put 15 on in a few minutes... here's what it looked like this morning mocked up on the rifle! http://i41.tinypic.com/2epr80w.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/2h8ak50.jpg http://i40.tinypic.com/1zydo5j.jpg - Clint Your not so jealous of my AK anymore are you? Outsanding work Clint! Its Beautiful. |
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Posted: 2/17/2009 12:38:39 PM EDT
I guess you could say that I'm starting to like mine...
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Posted: 2/20/2009 5:23:04 AM EDT
Clint,
Is she done yet? |
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Posted: 2/20/2009 6:39:43 AM EDT
It's pretty much done... I sanded and Poly'd it for the last time yesterday. I'm gonna let it dry for a week or so and then I'll put it back together and take some pics.
I scored 20 Chinese flatback mags to go along with it yesterday as well!
I have a bid on Gunbroker on a Bulgarian FSB to replace the plungerless Chicom one that's on there. I also finally ordered my Red Star Arms trigger last night, so I figure at least a week before it's close to complete! Thanks for your help Chad... - Clint |
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Posted: 2/20/2009 3:35:45 PM EDT
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It's pretty much done... I sanded and Poly'd it for the last time yesterday. I'm gonna let it dry for a week or so and then I'll put it back together and take some pics. I scored 20 Chinese flatback mags to go along with it yesterday as well!
I have a bid on Gunbroker on a Bulgarian FSB to replace the plungerless Chicom one that's on there. I also finally ordered my Red Star Arms trigger last night, so I figure at least a week before it's close to complete! Thanks for your help Chad... - Clint Anytime my friend. Dont forget to post some pics when your all done. If you decide to send me the bolt and trigger kit to polish just shoot me a message and Ill send you my FFL address. You dont owe me a thing. Chad
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Posted: 2/20/2009 5:00:39 PM EDT
I may take you up on the offer Chad, I've messed with it a few times and it seems like a lot of work getting it buffed out by hand!
Here's where I am today... My other camera is dead in the water for the moment, so when the battery charges I'll take some better pics. This project was fun, I'm very pleased with the end result, so far. I can't wait to get the FSB changed out and my new RSA trigger installed so I can go out and heat this sucker up!
All my Chicom mags...
Yes.... they are still covered in colmoline!
My 4 Polytech chrome follower mags...
My camera is acting up, I'll have to let it charge and take some better pix tomorrow... - Clint |
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Posted: 2/21/2009 4:32:33 PM EDT
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I may take you up on the offer Chad, I've messed with it a few times and it seems like a lot of work getting it buffed out by hand!
Here's where I am today... My other camera is dead in the water for the moment, so when the battery charges I'll take some better pics. This project was fun, I'm very pleased with the end result, so far. I can't wait to get the FSB changed out and my new RSA trigger installed so I can go out and heat this sucker up!
http://i41.tinypic.com/kccd5g.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/juuvrl.jpg All my Chicom mags...
Yes.... they are still covered in colmoline!
http://i40.tinypic.com/2r56fbr.jpg My 4 Polytech chrome follower mags...
http://i41.tinypic.com/1fbfh4.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/zvy069.jpg My camera is acting up, I'll have to let it charge and take some better pix tomorrow... - Clint Clint, That is FREAKING BEAUTIFUL! Now Im jealous. My fixed stock AK sports Plum Furniture, and it looks like a TURD compared to yours. Excellent work there dude. Just let me know if you decide to send the bolt. Ill need the RSA Hammer, and RSA Trigger, Bolt carrier, and assembled Bolt Head. Heres what I do to the AK's that we service (nothing is ground, only polished): Polish Floating Firing Pin (gives stronger Primer Strikes, and prevents Slam Fires) Polish Underside of Bolt Carrier, Bottom of the Bolt Head (Prevents shaving of rounds in the mag and, reduces Hammer Hangup) Polish Extractor Face (allows rounds to slip inside the bolt head easier for better feeing and extraction) Polish Visable areas of the bolt (Looks) Polish hammer face and (reduces carrier drag) Polish trigger spring rests (smoother trigger pull) Cost to my friend $0 
Chad
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Posted: 2/21/2009 5:56:08 PM EDT
Thanks Chad... couldn't have done it without your help!
But I don't care what you say, your UF is ballin' out of control... - Clint 
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Posted: 2/21/2009 7:46:37 PM EDT
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Thanks Chad... couldn't have done it without your help!
But I don't care what you say, your UF is ballin' out of control... - Clint http://i44.tinypic.com/2rfwina.jpg http://i42.tinypic.com/2urrqx4.jpg  
You gonna put optics on your MAK? I put this scope rail on my fixed stock NHM91 : Screw in AK Side Rail Scroll down to: AK Rifle Side Rail for Scope Mount $25.00 It works very good and you can do it at home. Its a solid mount. You can use any std AK side rail with this setup. If thay company dont have that one you can get this screw in mount here:$50 Screw in Side Rail |
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Posted: 2/22/2009 10:02:04 PM EDT
I don't think I will.... I don't know, I think I really like it just the way it is..... but you never know about me!
I'm on a mission to find a decent deal on a PSL, they keep popping up around here but every one I've seen has a warped stock... 
A gun dealer told me he thought they came like that so it puts you inline with the scope. What does yours look like? When you view the bottom of the rifle while it's leaning against the wall the stock bends to the right... I've seen this on at least 3 PSL's locally! 
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Posted: 2/22/2009 10:40:33 PM EDT
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I don't think I will.... I don't know, I think I really like it just the way it is..... but you never know about me! I'm on a mission to find a decent deal on a PSL, they keep popping up around here but every one I've seen has a warped stock...
A gun dealer told me he thought they came like that so it puts you inline with the scope. What does yours look like? When you view the bottom of the rifle while it's leaning against the wall the stock bends to the right... I've seen this on at least 3 PSL's locally!
- Clint Theres nothing wrong with a iron sighted AK. I was just wondering if you had any more plans for it. Its a fine looking weapon now. The dealer isnt making things up. For some reason most Yugo SKS's, Romy PSL's and various wood stocked AK's have "cast off" or a bend in the buttstock. Its ODD. My PSL and Yugo SKS has it. Im not sure what causes it but I have yet to see one break or cause shooting problems. His assumption about putting you inline with the scope might be right but I havent seen that confirmed in any literature about PSL's yet. Im always digging for mauuals and literature for my military guns. My wife says I have issues , but she still loves me
Im sorry my pics are straining your wallet, but you cant fight the need to have them can you? Its addictive.
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Posted: 2/22/2009 10:48:19 PM EDT
I just never noticed it.... Have you ever seen a PSL with a straight stock?
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Posted: 2/22/2009 11:29:33 PM EDT
Nice looking rifle you got there. I'm not really a fan of AK rifles but they are certainly growing on me. I really enjoyed the before and after pics as well. All the AK and SKS rifles look better with wood furniture.
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Posted: 2/22/2009 11:39:26 PM EDT
Thanks for the comment!
I used to have several AK variants... then I bought my first AR. I ended up selling all of my AK stuff by 2000... then I started wanting another AK last year, and figured I would get one similar to the first one I ever had... this has been a really fun project! I'm not quite done but it's sure starting to look like what I had envisioned! I'm starting to look at more AK stuff again that's for sure.
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Posted: 2/25/2009 12:24:45 PM EDT
That looks outstanding! Where did you get the butt plate. I converted mine years ago and it still has a bare butt.
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Posted: 2/25/2009 1:53:22 PM EDT
sweet looking rifle alaska
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Posted: 2/25/2009 3:09:12 PM EDT
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That looks outstanding! Where did you get the butt plate. I converted mine years ago and it still has a bare butt. He got his locally. K-Var has the buttplate and trap dor assembly. Its like $20. I linked one in this thread above in case Clint needed one. |
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Posted: 2/25/2009 5:22:02 PM EDT
I bought the butt plate locally for a $1... - Clint |
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Posted: 3/4/2009 6:42:07 PM EDT
You're a bad man! This has me wanting to buy a ban-era MAK90 and transform it into something beautiful like yours. How hard would you rate the process?
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Posted: 3/5/2009 6:38:45 AM EDT
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You're a bad man! This has me wanting to buy a ban-era MAK90 and transform it into something beautiful like yours. How hard would you rate the process? Thanks Nick Relatively simple... the FCG was easy, the wood staining went well with Clandestine's instructions... I have a gas block on order and I just received my FSB to complete the process. I'll have to reblue these but I'm almost finished! I would say the wait for all the parts is the hardest part of the project!
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Posted: 3/5/2009 3:06:04 PM EDT
Cajun, where did you find the gas block?
still need that banged up FSB for practice? Damn UPS ground takes damn long to ship my tiny item 
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Posted: 3/5/2009 4:32:45 PM EDT
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Cajun, where did you find the gas block? still need that banged up FSB for practice? Damn UPS ground takes damn long to ship my tiny item http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=123792670 I got it on gunbroker... if you watch it long enough you come across them! I may still be interested in the FSB... I'll send you a PM!
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Posted: 3/5/2009 4:46:52 PM EDT
Clint,
I got your parts today. Ill do them up tomorrow hopefully if things arent crazy at the shop.
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