Quote History Originally Posted By PistoleroJesse:To be fair the whole point was no lever arm right? If you move the but up out of your shoulder and just leave the bttom 1/3rd you create the lever arm don't you?
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Quote History Originally Posted By PistoleroJesse:Originally Posted By TonyF:
Be my guest.
The part of your reply I highlighted is exactly what the girl in the video is doing but then she has a riser on the butt stock (to compensate?). It's like the math (engineering) of the AR15 "in line" butt stock has all but been forgotten.
Sigh.
To be fair the whole point was no lever arm right? If you move the but up out of your shoulder and just leave the bttom 1/3rd you create the lever arm don't you?
Do you mean lever arm as it relates to torque physics?
And that with only the bottom 1/3 of the butt stock making contact with the shoulder that it creates a "lever" at the point of the firing hand on the grip?
And that this arrangement causes rotational force (torque) that is detrimental?
If I'm understanding you correctly, then no, the natural sightline/boreline of the AR15 with its in line stock creates perfect alignment with the eye and any given sighting system that is the standard 2.5 inches above the boreline and 1/3 shoulder contact.
I've demonstrated the same thing as Miss Yackley (at about the 40sec mark of the video) to students re: gripping the rifle with only the firing hand and pulling the rifle into the shoulder with only the bottom 1/3 of the butt stock making contact with the shoulder and never experienced any undue rotational tendency.
The AR15 in its basic form factor (A1 / A2 / M4) is a well-balanced weapon. While I have fired AR15's with low power variable optics, it's always been on one of the aforementioned configurations.
Not knowing the make up of the rifle in the video, perhaps the AR15 is a totally different animal with longer, lightweight (carbon fiber?) or heavy match barrels.
Don't get me wrong, specialized configurations can and do require specific techniques on occasion and I kind of alluded to that in my first reply. But I also tried to point out what I thought was a fair criticism in that the entire butt stock is making contact with her shoulder and yet she has attached a riser to the butt stock. Just seems like a bit of a contradiction.
I do agree with her about stance.