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I’ve run all three and they’re all different animals. If I had to pick one right now to go with, the Vortex Razor takes the win. It’s the best overall for optical quality and illumination. It has the widest FOV, exceptional glass (light transmission, resolution, etc), daylight bright (RDS bright) illumination, and it’s just as rugged as the other two. You just have to negotiate the weight, which is down to 21.5oz on the new Gen-IIE model. The 115ft FOV is massive, and it’s got a huge eyebox.
I ran the Leupold Mark6 1-6x CMR-W 7.62 for a couple years on a LMT 308MWS and it was a fantastic optic. The Mark6 has the same reflected reticle illumination as the Mark8 CQBSS, which was the first truly daylight/RDS bright illumination in a FFP reticle LPVO. The Mark6 has exceptional glass with great light transmission and resolution, and optically it’s on par with the Razor. The illumination is what everyone bitched about, but that is a result of how the reticle is illuminated. The reticle “blinked” if you moved your head off the centerline of the eyebox, because the light reflecting off the reticle was reflected directly backward and not angled. As the magnification increases, this “problem” gets worse. It’s just a matter of understanding what it is and why it’s doing it. NightForce uses this same technology, albeit more refined, on the NX8 and ATACR series 1-8x LPVOs. I didn’t have an issue with it. The Mark6 is nice because it’s only 17oz and has a 105ft FOV. The eyebox was pretty substantial too. With the Mk6 you just have to realize that this is an FFP scope, and as such, there are different engineering dynamics. SFP scopes are just easier (and cheaper) to illuminate. Under most circumstances, I think that FFP is pointless on a 1-6x, but the CMR-W reticle is actually pretty useful for long range shooting. I’ve used the BDC out to 600yds and it works exceptionally well.
The VCOG I tested was the original 1-6x (VC16 series), and I was less than impressed. It sat on top of a buddy’s AR and I tried it out at CQB and out to 400yds. For long range use and whatnot, it was a good optic and I liked it fine enough. It was good, but not great. The glass was nowhere near as good as the Vortex or Leupold, since both of those were using HD apochromatic glass. The VCOG has a 95ft FOV, which is below the “average” FOV of 100ft @ 100yds (my personal benchmark for average). The eyebox was slightly tighter too. The overall package was nice, and it ran for a long time with the AA battery, but most LPVOs run for quite a while on a CR2032 anyways. The illumination was daylight visible, but not daylight bright (RDS bright). It was like a slight red glow that you could see, but it didn’t draw your attention that much and it certainly wasn’t like an RDS like what you got with the Vortex or Leupold. This is another optic where the reticle is FFP and the illumination suffers as a result. The FFP design is good with this too, and out to 400yds it was nice to have that FFP design for the BDC reticle. The mounting system is cool in that it’s similar to the ACOG, so there are plenty of mounting options available if you don’t want the factory mount. This optic is again going a little bit on the heavier side.
The new VCOG 1-8x (VC18) models are optically better, with a 109ft FOV and I think they corrected the illumination so that it’s right on the edge of being daylight bright, similar to the AccuPower/Credo 1-8x setup. The problem is the 1-8x is 31oz, which is getting ridiculous for weight and quite frankly, at that point you should be stepping up to the Razor Gen3 1-10x for less money and better performance.
That all being said, the answer to this now is the Vortex Razor Gen3 1-10x as the current undisputed king of LPVOs as far as I’m concerned. I run numerous optics right now to include a Nightforce NX8 and Kahles K16i, and the Razor Gen3 is the one that I think is the best overall package if you plan to take your rifle beyond 200yds with any frequency. Otherwise, of the optics listed by the OP, I think the Gen2 Razor gets the nod for me. Just an overall better optic package, and less expensive as well.