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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/7/2018 7:44:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: m6z]
Do we have a thread on this yet? Something in between the Steiner T5XI and the Burris XTR II.
Steiner 4-16x56 SCR Zero Stop FFP Tac Knobs 5221 Description The PX4i is a medium range scope with a 34mm tube, an illuminated first focal plane Special Competition Reticle (SCR), and a side parallax adjustment. The rugged Steiner PX4i 4-16x56 riflescope offers clear images and a fast-action reticle to tackle every day use or sudden action. The scope was designed for patrol and tactical operations. It features a compact and lightweight design, high contrast optics, and a wide field of view. The PX4i is waterproof up to 33 feet. Give yourself a clear advantage with Steiner's finest tactical scope. Steiner Px4i 4-16x56 Features: SCR Reticle - Steiner's proprietary reticle was designed to help engage long-distance targets in low-light conditions. Windage and Elevation Knobs - Designed for precise adjustment, the dials are calibrated so that 1 click equals .1 mRAD. Rugged Construction - The scope tubes are built from solid, high-grade aluminum stock so there are no welds or seams, for greater strength and durability. Specifications Item ConditionNew Scope Weight:30 oz Scope Length:14.6" Magnification Range:4-16x Scope Objective Diameter:56mm Scope Tube Size / Mount:34mm Scope Turret Adjustment:.1 mrad with zero stop 30 mrad elevation with rotation indicator 16 mrad windage Parallax Adjustment:Left Side Focus Parallax Adjustment 50m->8 Reticle Position:First Focal Plane Field of View:27.5ft @ 100yds (4x) 6.9ft @ 100yds (16x) Eye Relief:.5" - 4.0" Illuminated Reticle:Yes, Rotary Dial CR2032 Battery Scope Finish:Matte Black UPC000381852212 MPN5221 https://www.eurooptic.com/5221-Steiner-Steiner-P4Xi-4-16x56-SCR-Zero-Stop-FFP-Tac-Knob.aspx http://www.scopelist.com/5221-steiner-steiner-p4xi-4-16x56-scr-zero-stop-ffp-tac-knob.aspx |
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Posted: 1/7/2018 8:58:12 PM EDT
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I have one mounted on my Tikka CTR and love it. Very clear glass and the turrets have nice smooth clicks to them.
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/7/2018 9:46:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: m6z]
[#2]
Nice. Any chance to compare it to the T5XI scopes?
No throw lever or scope covers included? |
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Posted: 1/7/2018 9:56:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m6z:
Nice. Any chance to compare it to the T5XI scopes? No throw lever or scope covers included? |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/7/2018 11:05:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: m6z]
[#4]
Thanks for the info. I've been hunting for a deal on a T5XI for quite awhile and just bought one. I then stumbled upon the P4xi while reading up some more on the T5XI scopes. There doesn't seem to be much info out there on the new 4-16.
How long have you had it? |
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Posted: 1/8/2018 12:00:33 AM EDT
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That's the same price I paid for my 5-25 T5xi brand new. I like the scope but the price point is too close to the T5xi, especially the 3-15.
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Posted: 1/8/2018 8:27:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m6z:
Thanks for the info. I've been hunting for a deal on a T5XI for quite awhile and just bought one. I then stumbled upon the P4xi while reading up some more on the T5XI scopes. There doesn't seem to be much info out there on the new 4-16. How long have you had it? |
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Posted: 4/15/2018 1:20:08 PM EDT
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Lots of problems with the ones I had. As soon as the front rings were tightened greater than 5 in-lb the parallax adjustment would bind and stop working due to some internal clearance issue (or something similar). I was mounting them on a Larue OBR mount. The first two were promptly replaced by Eurooptics but they had the same problem. Those were returned as well. I was not the only one to have the problems, just the first one to report it. Sales of this scope have been suspended and they are not on the website any more.
Steiner ended up crediting me and I replaced them with something else. No problems with Eurooptics. They were good to deal with. The German Military series Steiner scope that I have is flawless. The Px4I have design problems. |
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AR, USA
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Posted: 4/20/2018 8:17:00 PM EDT
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Yep, I heard they are redesigning some aspects of the scope before reintroducing them.
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MS, USA
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Posted: 11/30/2018 7:29:22 PM EDT
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Any updates on these scopes?
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Posted: 12/1/2018 5:39:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: COCKEDANDGLOCKED]
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Quote History Steiner P4Xi 4-16x56 and T5Xi 3-15x50-34mm FFP Any updates on these scopes? $999. dont know if it's still on sale. |
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Posted: 3/1/2019 3:11:06 PM EDT
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Seems like a really good deal on a really nice scope. Those who have seen both, would you recommend this over a NF NXS? I am currently in the market for a scope and this Steiner seems to be a it of scope for the money.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/1/2019 7:17:03 PM EDT
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P4Xi is a hell of deal right now at CameralandNY.
I have just finished my review of it as well: http://opticsthoughts.com/?p=2512 If you call Doug a Cameraland and mentione my name, you'll get a gift certificate of $50 in addition to the current sale he has of $849. General disclaimer: I do not make anything if you buy a scope from Doug. There is no affiliate account with him or anything like that. I think it is a really decent scope and since I am sorta friendly with Doug, I convinced him to offer an extra perk for people who read my ramblings. ILya www.darklordofoptics.com |
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Posted: 3/1/2019 8:27:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RandyLahey01]
[#13]
Thanks for posting your review. Did you happen to have any glare (lack of a better word) with the illumination during night time use? I saw a sniper hide review and they said theirs had some that was pretty significant.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/2/2019 5:08:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DarkLordOfOptics]
[#14]
I am not sure what you mean by glare. Perhaps flare?
When there is a bright light source in a generally dark environment all scopes will have some amount of flare. In this scope, it is very well controlled. I know it went through a re-design last year, so perhaps they looked at the earlier version. The one that is out now seems very good in low light. Reticle illumination can go very low, so it is quite unobtrusive. Even when set quite bright to take a picture, it did not spill over much at all (there is a picture in my review). ILya www.darklordofoptics.com |
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Posted: 3/2/2019 11:05:37 AM EDT
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Sorry for the confusion. I went back to the review and it was from sniper central. They called it “light spillage” and it happened past the 5th or 6th illumination setting. Here is a picture.
 Attached FileI’m new at picking a higher quality scope and this one seems like a winner. I just would like to buy once cry once so thanks for taking the time to explain your experience for me. 
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Posted: 3/2/2019 2:16:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/2/2019 2:43:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DarkLordOfOptics:
P4Xi is a hell of deal right now at CameralandNY. I have just finished my review of it as well: http://opticsthoughts.com/?p=2512 If you call Doug a Cameraland and mentione my name, you'll get a gift certificate of $50 in addition to the current sale he has of $849. General disclaimer: I do not make anything if you buy a scope from Doug. There is no affiliate account with him or anything like that. I think it is a really decent scope and since I am sorta friendly with Doug, I convinced him to offer an extra perk for people who read my ramblings. ILya www.darklordofoptics.com |
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Posted: 3/2/2019 4:21:14 PM EDT
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I got one as well. From what I was reading, it sounds like a really good scope at its normal price point.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/2/2019 10:46:55 PM EDT
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Did you tell Doug, I sent you for a $50 gift certificate?
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/2/2019 10:47:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RandyLahey01:
Sorry for the confusion. I went back to the review and it was from sniper central. They called it “light spillage” and it happened past the 5th or 6th illumination setting. Here is a picture. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/456485/7EA54A2E-4F2B-4AB1-A57F-96D9BD5D245A_jpeg-863221.JPG I’m new at picking a higher quality scope and this one seems like a winner. I just would like to buy once cry once so thanks for taking the time to explain your experience for me. ILya |
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Posted: 3/3/2019 1:04:38 AM EDT
[#21]
Thanks for the tip on that, I didn’t know. I spoke with Neil, very cool guy, and friendly. Chatted for quite a few minutes. I didn’t mention you because I was already getting it for 799 shipped. It’s a great deal so I didn’t want to ask for more.
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Posted: 3/3/2019 10:50:42 AM EDT
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You guys that got them, please post your thoughts when you get them. I have a P4XI 1-4 and its a great scope, no reason to think the 4-16 wouldn't be either but not too much info out there.
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Posted: 3/3/2019 12:51:56 PM EDT
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Will do. This is my first higher end scope, the other is a leupold so that’s all I have to compare to.
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IN, USA
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Posted: 3/5/2019 2:46:35 PM EDT
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Why no xmas tree reticle? The reticle on this thing eliminates it right off the bat.
How are the guts? p4xi 1-4 was mushy and likely lots of plastic guts, which is fine for a set it and forget it scope. Is this all metal in the erector assy? |
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Posted: 3/5/2019 2:55:07 PM EDT
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From the reviews that I read, the knobs are nicer than the ones on the t5xi. Is it just the fact that there is no "tree" that you not like the reticle?
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IN, USA
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Posted: 3/5/2019 5:46:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RandyLahey01:
From the reviews that I read, the knobs are nicer than the ones on the t5xi. Is it just the fact that there is no "tree" that you not like the reticle? Hope to continue to hear good things regarding the turrets and tracking. Correct, I do not like the reticle. Should have used a tree and an open center like an EBR-2C or something similar. That's pretty much perfection for a tactical rifle scope. |
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Posted: 3/10/2019 7:26:20 PM EDT
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It says on there website that it uses German glass. YouTube videos show the turrets to be very good. Not mushy at all. Mine should arrive tomorrow so I will give it a look over and post my thoughts.
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Posted: 3/11/2019 10:37:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TXBO]
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RandyLahey01:
It says on there website that it uses German glass. YouTube videos show the turrets to be very good. Not mushy at all. Mine should arrive tomorrow so I will give it a look over and post my thoughts. |
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Posted: 3/11/2019 9:13:29 PM EDT
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Quickly gave the scope a look over. I’m impressed. Considering I spent a similar amount on a leupold, this scope blows it out of the water. It’s very clear, brings in a lot of light, and turrets are not mushy to me. Mushiness is based on my experience with an 800 dollar leupold and a strike Eagle. I am not sure if the battery is low but the illumination doesn’t seem day light bright. I will play around and report back. When I get rings and get it mounted, I will take some good pictures.
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Posted: 3/12/2019 1:42:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RandyLahey01:
Quickly gave the scope a look over. I’m impressed. Considering I spent a similar amount on a leupold, this scope blows it out of the water. It’s very clear, brings in a lot of light, and turrets are not mushy to me. Mushiness is based on my experience with an 800 dollar leupold and a strike Eagle. I am not sure if the battery is low but the illumination doesn’t seem day light bright. I will play around and report back. When I get rings and get it mounted, I will take some good pictures. The closest thing I own to compare it to would probably be a SWFA SS 3-15x. I'll try put them side by side in the next day or two. If the weather holds out I'll try to do a tracking test tonight. |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 2:48:30 PM EDT
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Cool. Thanks for the review. Let me know how it compares.
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Posted: 3/12/2019 4:43:13 PM EDT
[#32]
Those of you with a nightforce SHV F1 how would you compare it to the P4xi?
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Posted: 3/13/2019 12:44:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TXBO]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TXBO: I got mine also. First impression is all positive. Very nice optical clarity. Very forgiving eye box. The last term I would use to describe the turrets is mushy. These turrets are very audible and defined. They are good turrets. If I had to be real critical, I'd say they are on the stiff side. The closest thing I own to compare it to would probably be a SWFA SS 3-15x. I'll try put them side by side in the next day or two. If the weather holds out I'll try to do a tracking test tonight. These features on the Steiner clearly make it worth the few extra dollars over the SWFA and at $799 a real bargain: Zero Stop Illuminated reticle FYI... I am not an optics expert or a professional reviewer. These are just one man's observations. |
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Posted: 3/13/2019 11:07:16 PM EDT
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@TXBO is your illumination daylight bright? I tried mine out during the day and couldn’t see the illumination.
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Posted: 3/14/2019 10:10:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RandyLahey01:
@TXBO is your illumination daylight bright? I tried mine out during the day and couldn’t see the illumination. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 3/30/2019 9:50:35 PM EDT
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Is this the best deal going right now? I need glass for my 6.5 Grendel and this has the features that I’m looking for.
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Posted: 3/31/2019 12:05:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akrox:
Is this the best deal going right now? I need glass for my 6.5 Grendel and this has the features that I’m looking for. |
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Posted: 4/4/2019 11:33:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RandyLahey01]
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I can agree with the above. One of the best deals going around and it is a pretty nice scope. I used it to measure a satellite dish on a water tower 1 miles away. The dish is roughly 32-34 inches based on my calculations with the scope.
ETA: It is a pretty big scope so plan on that with rings etc. |
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Posted: 4/6/2019 8:43:46 PM EDT
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Great info in this thread.
I’m trying to decide on the Steiner or the vortex PST Gen II 5-20 to go on a Seekins Havak Bravo in 6.5 creedmoor. |
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Posted: 4/8/2019 2:56:53 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 870Fan:
Great info in this thread. I’m trying to decide on the Steiner or the vortex PST Gen II 5-20 to go on a Seekins Havak Bravo in 6.5 creedmoor. |
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Posted: 4/9/2019 8:52:29 PM EDT
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Will do. I ordered the Steiner P4X1 4-16 from DSG to take advantage of their deal with the free rings and will have the gun up and running in next couple of weeks.
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Posted: 4/14/2019 12:25:51 PM EDT
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@TXBO Got the P4xi mounted on the Seekins Havak Bravo and sighted it in at 100 yards and was very very pleased with the rifle/optic combo. I got half MOA groups with Hornady 140 gr match and Win 140 gr March. The white box Win 125 gr shot just less than MOA. I’m new to precision rifles and think a better shooter could have shrunk those groups.
When I get some more time behind the rifle and optic, I’ll try to post a more detailed review. |
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Posted: 4/15/2019 1:43:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 870Fan:
@TXBO Got the P4xi mounted on the Seekins Havak Bravo and sighted it in at 100 yards and was very very pleased with the rifle/optic combo. I got half MOA groups with Hornady 140 gr match and Win 140 gr March. The white box Win 125 gr shot just less than MOA. I’m new to precision rifles and think a better shooter could have shrunk those groups. When I get some more time behind the rifle and optic, I’ll try to post a more detailed review. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2019 4:00:12 PM EDT
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Looking for a new scope for a FN SCAR 20s and saw the Steiner at DSG Arms. Seems like really great deal at $899 plus a free set of Steiner rings.
I was considering a Nightforce SHV 4-14 F1 on the high side or a Vortex Viper PST II 3-15 on the low side. Best prices for me: NF SHV $1032 Steiner P4Xi $899 Vortex PST II $719 I liked the review by Dark Lord Of Optics on the Steiner. It is the main reason I'm giving the Steiner such strong consideration. Thanks. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 4:33:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mi650]
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Posted: 5/12/2019 6:14:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DCV_117]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rleonard:
Lots of problems with the ones I had. As soon as the front rings were tightened greater than 5 in-lb the parallax adjustment would bind and stop working due to some internal clearance issue (or something similar). I was mounting them on a Larue OBR mount. The first two were promptly replaced by Eurooptics but they had the same problem. Those were returned as well. I was not the only one to have the problems, just the first one to report it. Sales of this scope have been suspended and they are not on the website any more. Steiner ended up crediting me and I replaced them with something else. No problems with Eurooptics. They were good to deal with. The German Military series Steiner scope that I have is flawless. The Px4I have design problems. Edit: adjusted the position and tension of the rings and I don’t have parallax issues anymore. |
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