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ID, USA
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Posted: 9/28/2020 12:24:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TWoodcook]
Been holding off on adopting the 65CM and feeling it’s about time. Looking for strictly a purpose built target rifle, no need for hunting options. Problem is it got so popular so quick for the past four or five years it seems to be everywhere, but now even with the panic buying going on I am having much less trouble finding it on the shelves where other standard cartridges like 308 are all sold out. Walked in to a local store the other day and ten SKUs of 308 all sold out and all 65 options were in strong supply, including Honandy ELDs. Now several new cartridges are gaining market share like the 65PRC and I’m wondering if the 65cm craze is dying down a bit in lieu of newer options. Should I stay with the 308 when I can find it and maybe get into reloading what I’m already shooting or is 65creedmoor going to remain a strong presence in the market and a better option for distance shooting?
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Posted: 9/28/2020 1:34:31 AM EDT
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6.5 Creedmoor won’t go away. 6mm Creedmoor is another good option. If you reload and get components when they are available you don’t have to worry about what’s at the store.
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Posted: 9/28/2020 1:40:23 AM EDT
[#2]
.260 rem or .243win
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Posted: 9/28/2020 2:03:27 AM EDT
[#3]
There is nothing wrong with 308 but 6.5C does most everything a little better. At long range, you still have to read the wind and pull the trigger.
I tend to be more of a 6mm fan because I don't like recoil and I only varmint hunt- not into big game hunting. 6mm also costs less to reload. |
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Posted: 9/28/2020 8:59:12 AM EDT
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I'm thinking 65CM is here to stay. As typical, all the target shooters are loading for it anyway. It's a perfectly suitable short action hunting round, and I'm sure hunting ammo for it will always be sold, match ammo may not, besides one or two offerings.
Eventually it will be eclipsed by some newer round for targets, but that's just how it is. The hunting-only crowd will be using the same barrels for a lifetime and if they're not the new-gun-every-year crowd, it will be in some demand forever. |
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Posted: 9/28/2020 9:17:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By TWoodcook: Been holding off on adopting the 65CM and feeling it’s about time. Looking for strictly a purpose built target rifle, no need for hunting options. Problem is it got so popular so quick for the past four or five years it seems to be everywhere, but now even with the panic buying going on I am having much less trouble finding it on the shelves where other standard cartridges like 308 are all sold out. Walked in to a local store the other day and ten SKUs of 308 all sold out and all 65 options were in strong supply, including Honandy ELDs. Now several new cartridges are gaining market share like the 65PRC and I’m wondering if the 65cm craze is dying down a bit in lieu of newer options. Should I stay with the 308 when I can find it and maybe get into reloading what I’m already shooting or is 65creedmoor going to remain a strong presence in the market and a better option for distance shooting? The 6.5 Creedmoor is going nowhere. It's been around since 2007 and has been popular for much longer than 4 or 5 years. It's better ballistically than the .308 so if you bought one you would have two options. The only downside to the Creedmoor is less barrel life than the .308. The 6.5 PRC is a totally different cartridge. It's a short magnum. There will always be different cartridges coming up but the Creedmoor isn't going anywhere. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/28/2020 10:07:15 AM EDT
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6.5CM is a very good round. Here to stay. If you want a short action, AR-15 size, the 6.5Grendel is another great option. Very efficient round with high b.c.’s.
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Posted: 9/28/2020 10:50:50 AM EDT
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Someday down the road ill be doing the same, it will be with a 7mm mag though. Prime Minister maybe?
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Posted: 9/28/2020 11:14:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wombat: .260 rem or .243win I have a .260 and they never have that at Walmart but 6.6m5 is there dang near more often than .308. I think that says something. |
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Posted: 10/18/2020 1:39:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sigman68: There is nothing wrong with 308 but 6.5C does most everything a little better. Including burn up barrels! I am on my fourth 6.5CM barrel and it gets a bit expensive. Still better than a 6mm though. |
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Posted: 10/22/2020 9:39:58 PM EDT
[#10]
It’s definitely here to stay.
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ID, USA
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Posted: 10/23/2020 11:30:00 AM EDT
[#11]
Wow! Is this from a high volume of shooting? I’m being told CM barrels can last from 2000-5000 rounds.
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ID, USA
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Posted: 10/23/2020 11:31:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roddy556: Including burn up barrels! I am on my fourth 6.5CM barrel and it gets a bit expensive. Still better than a 6mm though. Wow! Is this from a high volume of shooting? I’m being told CM barrels can last from 2000-5000 rounds. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 1:03:50 PM EDT
[#13]
Originally Posted By TWoodcook: Wow! Is this from a high volume of shooting? I’m being told CM barrels can last from 2000-5000 rounds. Many shooters do that in a season. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 1:09:02 PM EDT
[#14]
If you’re starting from scratch, there’s nothing wrong with a 6.5cm. If you’ve got something that is working for you, there isn’t necessarily a reason to change.
If you don’t reload, it’s a good skill to learn. |
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ID, USA
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Posted: 10/23/2020 4:59:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TWoodcook]
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-180: If you’re starting from scratch, there’s nothing wrong with a 6.5cm. If you’ve got something that is working for you, there isn’t necessarily a reason to change. If you don’t reload, it’s a good skill to learn. Currently shooting 308 and enjoy it. I shoot in open desert so limited distance is no issue but wind is. I’m still not up over 400 yards with current set up and caliber. Planning on getting into reloading soon and starting with all my 308 brass. I think realistically the caliber I already have fits 90 percent of my needs but I’m curious about the incredible influence 65CM has had on the market lately. I’ll admit that I’m not too excited about funding another over-a-dollar-per-round caliber in my arsenal. |
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Posted: 10/24/2020 10:28:50 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TWoodcook: Currently shooting 308 and enjoy it. I shoot in open desert so limited distance is no issue but wind is. I’m still not up over 400 yards with current set up and caliber. Planning on getting into reloading soon and starting with all my 308 brass. I think realistically the caliber I already have fits 90 percent of my needs but I’m curious about the incredible influence 65CM has had on the market lately. I’ll admit that I’m not too excited about funding another over-a-dollar-per-round caliber in my arsenal. 6.5s aren’t going anywhere. However, your 308 has legs to get way beyond 400. Reloading allows you to really tailor your ammo to your rifle. Put some surveyors streamer out at the firing line and in between the target and you. Watch the mirage for signs about what is happening downrange. Tell us more about your current set up. |
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Posted: 10/24/2020 10:48:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Rob01]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TWoodcook: Wow! Is this from a high volume of shooting? I’m being told CM barrels can last from 2000-5000 rounds. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TWoodcook: Wow! Is this from a high volume of shooting? I’m being told CM barrels can last from 2000-5000 rounds. 2500-3000 is a good average. Some go longer but usually shot slow fire and with light loads. Match rifles go around that 2500. As mentioned your .308 can go more than 400 with the right bullets. I shoot my .308 in Tac class in matches with Hornady 168 ELD-M and have shot to just over 1200 yards in matches and made reliable hits. It's all about the right load. What is your present set up? You might be able to make a switch barrel set up as the Creedmoor uses all the same parts as the .308 minus the barrel. Originally Posted By TWoodcook: Currently shooting 308 and enjoy it. I shoot in open desert so limited distance is no issue but wind is. I’m still not up over 400 yards with current set up and caliber. Planning on getting into reloading soon and starting with all my 308 brass. I think realistically the caliber I already have fits 90 percent of my needs but I’m curious about the incredible influence 65CM has had on the market lately. I’ll admit that I’m not too excited about funding another over-a-dollar-per-round caliber in my arsenal. And again the Creedmoor is not new or anything to do with the market lately. It's been out a while. The Creedmoor is out in a lot of rifles and set ups from target to hunting so there is a lot of ammo on the market. It's not dying out at all. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 10/24/2020 1:42:23 PM EDT
[#18]
I'd personally take a zippy fast 6mm over a 6.5 any day for all the purposes I have for a rifle. 6BR, 6XC, .243AI. Everything you need and nothing you don't.
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Posted: 10/28/2020 2:55:03 PM EDT
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My last 3 6mm barrels lasted 917 rounds, 1000ish rounds, and 709 (still shooting but seeing issues) rounds. Shooting hot, suppressed, and in the summer.
My 6.5 barrels are still shooting at 2800 rounds. |
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Posted: 11/2/2020 10:10:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lennyo3034: My last 3 6mm barrels lasted 917 rounds, 1000ish rounds, and 709 (still shooting but seeing issues) rounds. Shooting hot, suppressed, and in the summer. My 6.5 barrels are still shooting at 2800 rounds. My bartlien barrels last to 1600 and my friends shooting benchmark are getting about the same. My 6.5cm were done just over 3k. |
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TCA
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Posted: 11/16/2020 1:13:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Dabster]
[#21]
How is the felt recoil from 6.5? I’ve heard it’s lighter than .308. I am currently spoiled by a very soft shooting .308 AR-10. I don’t want my first bolt gun to be a pain to shoot. Is reduced recoil a good reason to go with 6.5? Is it noticeably lighter?
ETA: i know that rifle weight, muzzle brake and etc will affect recoil too. All things equal, is the recoil from a 6.5 rifle much less than a .308? |
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Posted: 11/16/2020 4:04:28 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dabster: How is the felt recoil from 6.5? I’ve heard it’s lighter than .308. I am currently spoiled by a very soft shooting .308 AR-10. I don’t want my first bolt gun to be a pain to shoot. Is reduced recoil a good reason to go with 6.5? Is it noticeably lighter? ETA: i know that rifle weight, muzzle brake and etc will affect recoil too. All things equal, is the recoil from a 6.5 rifle much less than a .308? Yes the recoil is lighter than the .308. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:06:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rob01: Yes the recoil is lighter than the .308. Good to know. Thank you. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 11/25/2020 5:13:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: urbanredneck]
[#24]
For a competitor to 308.... It is king. But I find myself wanting a long range hunting rig. Something for deer sized animals out past 700 yards. 308, '06 and 6.5 can do that but I'm feeling 7mm..... 7mm ackley or 280 Remington are running around in my mind.
Without stepping up to a magnum round that is. But just to reiterate....cm is well beyond some industry fad at this point. |
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Posted: 11/25/2020 5:38:28 PM EDT
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I have a .260 Rem, but during these COVID times though, I wish I had a 6.5CM. There were boxes and cases even at some stores I ventured to in person. Good stuff too, like Hornady Precision Hunter. I'd say 6.5CM is not a phase - she's holding true.
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Posted: 12/5/2020 9:11:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wombat: .260 rem or .243win I like 243 as well. I shoot 105 grain nosler rdf's out of a savage 10 with a 1:8 McGowan barrel.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/5/2020 9:24:05 AM EDT
[#27]
It's the new .308.
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Posted: 12/5/2020 9:35:01 AM EDT
[#28]
I recently took a higher-end training course with a vast mix of shooters.
The pros in the group were all shooting something of the 6mm variety. If I had aspirations of being a serious PRS competitor that’s the route I’d go. Since I’m so heavily invested in 6.5cm I’ll just stick with it. |
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Posted: 12/5/2020 11:54:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By esa17: I recently took a higher-end training course with a vast mix of shooters. The pros in the group were all shooting something of the 6mm variety. If I had aspirations of being a serious PRS competitor that’s the route I’d go. Since I’m so heavily invested in 6.5cm I’ll just stick with it. If you gave a good PRS shooter either of those or a vast amount of other caliber it would probably make little to no difference how they shot. |
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Posted: 12/5/2020 1:03:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RePp: If you gave a good PRS shooter either of those or a vast amount of other caliber it would probably make little to no difference how they shot. I didn’t say anything to the contrary. What you will notice is that a caliber selection like that might make them 2% better. That 2% doesn’t mean anything to a middle of the pack guy like me but it may mean the podium to them. |
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Posted: 12/5/2020 3:10:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By esa17: I didn’t say anything to the contrary. What you will notice is that a caliber selection like that might make them 2% better. That 2% doesn’t mean anything to a middle of the pack guy like me but it may mean the podium to them.  I know 1 point means the difference from 1st place to 2nd for me. 
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Posted: 12/5/2020 3:21:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RePp: https://media.tenor.com/images/f120caa510c7de3e16449bbe5540b2f5/tenor.gif I know 1 point means the difference from 1st place to 2nd for me. https://media.tenor.com/images/b438bb80fc5487b8c5ec12a4ecb2882b/tenor.gif I’ll own all the podiums next year with my new wildcat round: 5.32 Cheymoor! |
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Posted: 12/5/2020 3:37:05 PM EDT
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6.5 Creedmoor is a great round. The ballistic differences between the 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5x47, and the 260 Remington are so small as to be inconsequential. If someone is considering any one of those three and already has some brass, or a rifle for one of those three cartridges, I would recommend staying with what they already have, because the ballistic differences aren't worth the change.
The new 6mm Creedmoor and similar rounds DO generate less recoil, however barrel life is somewhat shorter. However, normally the people who shoot those rounds for matches don't really worry about barrel life, because wearing out barrels is a normal course of events...sort of like wearing out tires on a race car in that you expect it to happen and you don't base your game around it. For hunters who shoot 20-50 rounds per year, a rifle in any of those cartridges will likely last them a very, very long time. |
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