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Posted: 12/9/2019 2:05:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: snakeyes711]
Was looking at, tubbs fire lapping bullets. Probably put the og thread in the wrong forum.

Thinking on trying these as a last ditch effort before going with a criterion.

Probably will only use the last 3 grit bullets since I've got 200rds down the tube. Its a 18" SS barrel.

@bfoosh06
Link Posted: 12/9/2019 4:00:10 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/9/2019 4:25:14 PM EDT
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Oh, sry i thought i put a link to the thread.
It's a pa10 308. SS 18" barrel.

And see people using this system for accuracy.  Basically it won't group better than. 2-3 inches with both 168, 175gr fgmm loads.
Link Posted: 12/9/2019 4:31:17 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/9/2019 5:10:15 PM EDT
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Roger that! Ive got them in there cart at midwayusa right now.

What I'll do is shoot a group with fgmm loads.  Clean the barrel,  shoot the tubbs FF. Then shoot another group with the fgmm. And post pictures,

this may be what the pa10 ss 308 upper barrel's need.  If it goes wrong,  I'm looking at the new barrel anyway, and I'm out the 35 bucks for the tubbs.
Link Posted: 12/9/2019 5:16:38 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/9/2019 6:19:36 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/9/2019 6:36:24 PM EDT
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Interesting reading.
Link Posted: 12/9/2019 6:42:34 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/9/2019 7:28:20 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/9/2019 8:55:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: snakeyes711] [#10]
Wow thanks rob. I actually read that article before i posted this.  Thanks for feedback and advice. I'll post back next week if i can get to the range.
Link Posted: 12/9/2019 11:14:57 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/10/2019 8:29:55 AM EDT
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Just north of winston salem
Link Posted: 12/10/2019 10:03:48 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/10/2019 6:03:40 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/13/2019 8:15:00 PM EDT
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So i got the FF kit today.  Upon reading the directions,  it says only use the #3, 4, 5 buillets for an acceptable shooting barrel. which they define as shooting 1/2". Versus shooting 1 1/2" groups.  Now I (and you) am thoroughly confused.

Bfoosh06
Link Posted: 12/13/2019 8:53:20 PM EDT
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I jokingly refer to that kit as the Finally Finish because of what the whole thing will do to a barrel.

I still only recommend the finest two or three grits (2 really) and it would really help if you had a borescope to check it after each shot.
Link Posted: 12/13/2019 9:06:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
I jokingly refer to that kit as the Finally Finish because of what the whole thing will do to a barrel.

I still only recommend the finest two or three grits (2 really) and it would really help if you had a borescope to check it after each shot.
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Ok,  I'll only load up the last two grits.
Link Posted: 12/16/2019 5:25:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: snakeyes711] [#18]
Ok,  range report!

I fired this group at 100yds with a 175smk load similar to fgmm.  The range i went to didn't have any bags or rests or anything so i fired this group off the bipod with my hand on the rear stock.

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Then the 30 rounds of the FF kit using 41.5gr varget cleaning in between grits.

I then fired 4-5 old hornady sst loads from a few years ago to foul the barrel a bit. Then i had some actual fgmm i found in my box.

This time i shot off a block of wood with a rag under it and my hand on the stock. I feel i may shoot better off a front bag than a bi pod. Plus the table wasn't level at all to begin with.  So i felt i may do better with out the bipod.

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Success i believe! The vertical is no doubt my fault.  Over all i feel the bore is a lot smoother,  significantly less resistance on that final clean.

I also noticed the last ff buillets , were printing higher and higher,  which even though i didn't have my chrono i feel it improved velocity.

Also i zeroed my sons ruger amer. Off the block And it printed this .710" group.

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If you can notice the top right was initial shots from the bipod. The last group was a bag. I feel you in fact do shoot better off a bag instead of a bipod.

@bfoosh06
Link Posted: 12/16/2019 10:09:48 PM EDT
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