Quote History Originally Posted By FALex:
Well, the main differences between the "M" and "T" models of the Steiners are more than glass clarity; the "M" models are built in Germany, the "T" models in Colorado (IIRC). When the T's came out, they ended up having significant issues, they shit the bed big time. Google Steiner T5x problems and you'll see. That's why the M models, though older and with dated reticles, are still more expensive.
You can never go wrong with Nightforce, but their first focal plane models are very expensive. If you have that type of cash, I'd consider Kahles and Schmidt and Bender too. I run Kahles 624i's on all of my precision rifles. Sounds like you'd prefer the SKMR 1 reticle, but I run the SKMR 3 and AMR reticles (I prefer the Christmas tree-type reticles).
USO makes excellent optics as well. I owned a B25 with the GenII XR reticle, great scope, I just prefer Kahles.
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Thanks for the response and input.
My Steiners are the old military tactical before they split to the M&T lines. I saw the T had issues, one of the reasons I was sticking to the M line. Both of mine have been great.
Nightforce is a nice optic. I wouldn't buy a scope that isn't first focal plane for these specific rifles, so that locks me in on specific models. That being the case, I have been looking at S&B and others. There's been some major changes to the USO offerings and they look pretty good. Another interesting line is that from IOR Valdada. Only thing with them is the tubes are huge.
I have time so I'm going to keep looking. Khales is on the list today for some research. Everything I've seen on them looks outstanding. I have looked at a Razor Gen2 and while it was nice, I passed preferring something else.
I haven't really tried any others reticles to any extent other than here and there. That's the logic on a plain mil dot or slightly modified mil dot. That and I'm lazy because I'm used to marking, dimensions and use. Maybe I should throw a different reticle into the mix. On the subject of reticles, illumination is not a primary for me. I actually like the idea on the IOR of only having the center dot lit. It's a nice feature, but I don't use it much.
Not trying to sound arrogant, but one thing I learned a while back is optics is definitely one to buy once cry once. I had tried several scopes before that were not hugely expensive, but weren't cheap either. Just trying to figure out what'll fit me best before hand because scopes are a relatively large purchase that I'd like to avoid having to change.
Thanks again for any and all input.