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Posted: 8/12/2019 9:15:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Sputnik556]
Someone tell me that I’m stupid and need to stop while I’m ahead.
I want to build a clone of a K98, chambered in something other than 8mm, and I want to thread it for a suppressor. I’d like to find a bubba’d receiver that’s already been tapped for glass to build it on. I realize that the stock isn’t optimal for accuracy, but I doubt that I’d ever shoot past 500 anyway. Thoughts? |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 9:47:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: tommyidone]
[#1]
You’re stupid. (Disclaimer OP specifically asked me to do this... don’t ban me)
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Posted: 8/13/2019 7:48:39 AM EDT
[#2]
You want a K98 clone but you don't want it chambered for the 8mm and you want it drilled and tapped for use with a scope?
Not too much of a clone but, if it's what you want, you should go for it |
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Posted: 8/13/2019 8:20:24 AM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EliCustom:
You want a K98 clone but you don't want it chambered for the 8mm and you want it drilled and tapped for use with a scope? Not too much of a clone but, if it's what you want, you should go for it I want a bolt gun that I can suppress, and I have a real K98, which I really like. I thought a K98 style gun with a few modern features would be neat. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 8/13/2019 8:31:30 AM EDT
[#4]
Try to find a Mauser style action on GB. A quick search shows zastava actions available which I think are post war.
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Posted: 8/13/2019 8:53:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Saddler]
[#5]
What about one of the older Israeli K98 models in 7.62x51
Easy to load for & a cheap donor gun - or maybe a post-war Yugo or Czech K98? Quite a few options for a donor '98 receiver, but I'd look for one already in a calibre other than 8mm to cut down on the work needed |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 8/13/2019 8:58:27 AM EDT
[#6]
Shop local gun stores for sporterized Mausers.
You can often find them at good prices, because nobody wants them anymore. |
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Posted: 8/21/2019 10:21:58 PM EDT
[#7]
I dig it.
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Posted: 8/21/2019 10:25:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: UtahShotgunner]
[#8]
Actions I have. (If you want to start from scratch.)
The 30-06 mil-profile barrel I had sold on eBay earlier today. Israeli Mausers are getting to be collectible. Look for an M48 post war Yugo and re-barrel. |
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Posted: 10/24/2019 12:18:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Sputnik556]
[#9]
I've hit a gun and pawn shops recently, most of them are either pretty spendy, or too far gone to restore to a military type configuration.
Or both. |
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Posted: 10/24/2019 12:38:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FightingHellfish]
[#10]
Start with a Ruger GSR, the model 77 action is 100% Mauser 98. The GSR already has military-ish sights and muzzle device.
Build a custom military-inspired stock that uses all the military stock hardware, butt plate and custom military-inspired hand guard. You could use some kind of concealed brass pin/ socket to locate the hand guard and make it free-floated. Use a detachable steel magazine. Refinish all the Ruger and military metal in black or park gray Cerakote. Finish the wood with appropriate oil. Make it a modern military Mauser. K98k Model of 2019 or American FR-8. |
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Posted: 10/24/2019 12:56:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Sputnik556]
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FightingHellfish: Start with a Ruger GSR, the model 77 action is 100% Mauser 98. The GSR already has military-ish sights and muzzle device. Build a custom military-inspired stock that uses all the military stock hardware, butt plate and custom military-inspired hand guard. You could use some kind of concealed brass pin/ socket to locate the hand guard and make it free-floated. Use a detachable steel magazine. Refinish all the Ruger and military metal in black or park gray Cerakote. Finish the wood with appropriate oil. Make it a modern military Mauser. K98k Model of 2019 or American FR-8. That would undoubtedly be a cheaper, easier and probably superior alternative, but I'm stubborn and want it to look like 1944 with a can and LPVO.
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USA
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Posted: 10/24/2019 1:35:28 PM EDT
[#12]
Well, I’m part of the Arcom tradition of “GET BOTH!” so I think you should build it.
As inspiration, here is a 98k re-build with many reproduction parts, although the builder was seeking authenticity- including 8mm chambering:  Kar98k + Zf 39 Sniper to 1,100yds: Practical Accuracy I think you should build it in 6.5x55mm Swedish. |
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Posted: 10/24/2019 2:01:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Sputnik556]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dominion21:
Well, I’m part of the Arcom tradition of “GET BOTH!” so I think you should build it.
As inspiration, here is a 98k re-build with many reproduction parts, although the builder was seeking authenticity- including 8mm chambering:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdxVqFX9Iwo
I think you should build it in 6.5x55mm Swedish. I’d probably go with 308, it isn’t the best round out there, but it’s plentiful and reasonably priced. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 10/25/2019 1:27:41 PM EDT
[#14]
I'm doing one myself. Just got the stock made. 6082 aluminum, adjustable everything. Haven't found (or looked) for an AICS compatible bottom metal arrangement for it yet. Might stick with the original floorplate. We'll see.
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Posted: 10/25/2019 3:49:31 PM EDT
[#15]
For awhile i thought Zastava was making reproductions of the K98.
Regardless, I've been seeing several bubba'd large ring actions coming in to the shops near me. The bolts and bold handles are bubba'd as well, so they would hardly be worth the effort to do a resto mod. |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 3:52:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Sputnik556]
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Moondog:
For awhile i thought Zastava was making reproductions of the K98. Regardless, I've been seeing several bubba'd large ring actions coming in to the shops near me. The bolts and bold handles are bubba'd as well, so they would hardly be worth the effort to do a resto mod. |
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USA
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Posted: 11/13/2019 11:43:53 PM EDT
[#17]
This is Remingtons discontinued model 798:
It’s a Zastava made 98 Mauser in various calibers. Discontinued 2006. Many still out there. Probably cheap too. |
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USA
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Posted: 11/13/2019 11:46:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/14/2019 6:11:32 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dominion21:
Here’s a Zastava M70: https://www.budsgunshop.com/mobile/product/415001453/redirect As were ton of K98k's during WWII when the Germans called it Waffenwerke Brunn. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 5:44:03 AM EDT
[#20]
I see someone has been playing PUBG!
 I don't blame you. I have often thought of doing this to some classic military rifles. Keep the classic military lines, but add some modern enhancements such as a suppressor and modern glass. The two biggest that I wanted to try it with was a 1903a4 and a Finnish M39. You actually have several options. Start with a modern reproduction and work backwards. Several already mentioned it, but look for the Zastava M70. The were initially discontinued, but Zastava USA is slowly bringing them back out. But they are more expensive. Get an original action. Have been thinking about doing this myself. Always wanted to try making an FR-8 as it was my favorite Mauser, along with the swedish versions. https://www.sarcoinc.com/mauser-98-model-1938-large-ring-long-action-action-receiver/ Your last option that I can think of is to get a fancy reproduction and start from there. Never have used one of these. Claim to have a 30-06 bolt face. https://www.sarcoinc.com/dumoulin-mauser-action/ Whatever you end up doing, please keep us updated. I would love to see the final product. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 9/9/2020 6:06:02 AM EDT
[#21]
I have a Turkish Mauser sitting in a safe for 10 years that I want to do a project on. The prices have really gone up. I paid $75 for it shipped... My dad has a .243 built on a pre war Mauser action. That gun is a laser. Great shooter.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 6:51:13 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MDStroup: I see someone has been playing PUBG! I don't blame you. I have often thought of doing this to some classic military rifles. Keep the classic military lines, but add some modern enhancements such as a suppressor and modern glass. The two biggest that I wanted to try it with was a 1903a4 and a Finnish M39. You actually have several options. Start with a modern reproduction and work backwards. Several already mentioned it, but look for the Zastava M70. The were initially discontinued, but Zastava USA is slowly bringing them back out. But they are more expensive. Get an original action. Have been thinking about doing this myself. Always wanted to try making an FR-8 as it was my favorite Mauser, along with the swedish versions. https://www.sarcoinc.com/mauser-98-model-1938-large-ring-long-action-action-receiver/ Your last option that I can think of is to get a fancy reproduction and start from there. Never have used one of these. Claim to have a 30-06 bolt face. https://www.sarcoinc.com/dumoulin-mauser-action/ Whatever you end up doing, please keep us updated. I would love to see the final product. No PUBG, at least not for a few years. My favorite guns to shoot are military bolt actions, that’s the biggest reason for wanting to do it. I haven’t done anything as of yet, I’m still looking for bubba’d gun to make a project out of. I definitely want to start with something that’s already been ruined from a collectibility standpoint. I’m actually not even married to the idea of it being a K98, I’ve considered building something out of a Spanish Mauser. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 9:12:36 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556: I’m actually not even married to the idea of it being a K98, I’ve considered building something out of a Spanish Mauser. The Spanish 98s are still a bargain. Bubba'd versions still show up in the $100 range. I would avoid the earlier 1893/1916 Spanish Mausers. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 9:17:45 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UtahShotgunner: The Spanish 98s are still a bargain. Bubba'd versions still show up in the $100 range. I would avoid the earlier 1893/1916 Spanish Mausers. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UtahShotgunner: Originally Posted By Sputnik556: I’m actually not even married to the idea of it being a K98, I’ve considered building something out of a Spanish Mauser. The Spanish 98s are still a bargain. Bubba'd versions still show up in the $100 range. I would avoid the earlier 1893/1916 Spanish Mausers. I’d love to find something like that. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2021 10:20:56 PM EDT
[#25]
I like the way you think, my left handed Zastava m70
 
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Posted: 5/3/2022 6:02:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PR361]
[#26]
Yugoslav M48 for $399,https://www.royaltigerimports.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=MAUS0006&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=hungarian_762x25_ammunition_now_for_sale_starting_at_039_rd_crates_and_individual_boxes_for_sale_check_them_out_here_for_more_details&utm_term=2022-05-03
.308 Mauser barrels show up regularly on ebay |
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Posted: 5/3/2022 6:56:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: UtahShotgunner]
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556: I’d love to find something like that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556: Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner: Originally Posted By Sputnik556: I’m actually not even married to the idea of it being a K98, I’ve considered building something out of a Spanish Mauser. The Spanish 98s are still a bargain. Bubba'd versions still show up in the $100 range. I would avoid the earlier 1893/1916 Spanish Mausers. I’d love to find something like that. Picked this Spanish 98 up yesterday for about $175.00 Barrel re-profiled, re-blued, stripper clip guide removed, drilled and tapped with Weaver bases, bolt handle forged to sporter type and a good quality aftermarket stock. Missing trigger and magazine follower and floor plate, but I have many of those parts. 
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NV, USA
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Posted: 2/18/2023 5:12:45 AM EDT
[#28]
Well just an FYI, there is a company that was at shot show this year that is going to be importing brand new Serbian k98k rifles.
I spoke with them and they are just waiting for arrangements for an importer. So I would say just be patient for now. The rifles looked amazing. I offered to import a few for them, but I was told that that decision would need to come from someone further up the chain. I have a picture of their rifle and it is really nice, but the image hosting. Service I normally use had been down for maintenance for over 2 weeks. |
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Posted: 2/18/2023 9:33:42 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 27Katana: I have a picture of their rifle and it is really nice, but the image hosting. Service I normally use had been down for maintenance for over 2 weeks. You can upload them here. 
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Posted: 2/18/2023 2:45:39 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 27Katana: Well just an FYI, there is a company that was at shot show this year that is going to be importing brand new Serbian k98k rifles. I spoke with them and they are just waiting for arrangements for an importer. So I would say just be patient for now. The rifles looked amazing. I offered to import a few for them, but I was told that that decision would need to come from someone further up the chain. I have a picture of their rifle and it is really nice, but the image hosting. Service I normally use had been down for maintenance for over 2 weeks. Did they mention a price? |
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Posted: 2/18/2023 3:07:40 PM EDT
[#31]
Ruger Scout is on the M77 action, which is a model 98 clone.
I always thought a cool project would be a military stock set with handguard and barrel bands. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 2/19/2023 8:09:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Gremyashchy1911]
[#32]
Shamelessly stolen image from IG
Not mine just motivation for the project Pretty sure it’s the wrong action but just an old rifle made “new”. 
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SD, USA
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Posted: 3/3/2024 8:04:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: elmidgeto]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Moondog: For awhile i thought Zastava was making reproductions of the K98. Regardless, I've been seeing several bubba'd large ring actions coming in to the shops near me. The bolts and bold handles are bubba'd as well, so they would hardly be worth the effort to do a resto mod. They're not reproductions. Zastava has been doing FN contract commercial Mauser actions for three quarters of a century from FN tooling and plans. The nicest are the Interarms Mark X. You can usually find these cheap because no one knows what they are. Remington brought them in for a while as the 798/799. Charles Daly, I think, had the current import contract. The Remington and CD are not as nice as the Interarms. Husqvarna also put together rifles as the 1600 on FN commercial actions. Sako and Browning both used the FN commercial Mauser actions for their 3.4" cartridges in the '50s and '60s. The BRNO 721/722 are well built Czech Mausers. Stuart Satterlee of Satterlee Arms makes new production actions in 2.8", 3.1", 3.4" and even does, on rare occasions, a modern version of the Granite Mountain magnum action for the big safari cartridges. I like the Interarms, personally. Inexpensive and quality. A note, you will need a 'smith familiar with Mausers for the barrel. The Mauser actions has two bearing surfaces, internal and external, on the receiver. Also, the Mauser thread is a witworth, 55°, instead of the usual 60°. Using the wrong thread or not bearing evenly on both surfaces of the action can give you nightmare inducing gremlins. Good luck, Mausers are a whole other level of OCD. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 3/3/2024 8:46:37 AM EDT
[#34]
Go for it op. I was going to do this at one point. Still need a barrel.
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Posted: 3/3/2024 11:16:09 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elmidgeto: They're not reproductions. Zastava has been doing FN contract commercial Mauser actions for three quarters of a century from FN tooling and plans. Zastava produce their first Mauser 98 rifles almost exactly 100 years ago. |
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Posted: 3/3/2024 11:22:19 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elmidgeto: Charles Daly, I think, had the current import contract. The Remington and CD are not as nice as the Interarms. KBI/Daly imported the true left hand version. The only "factory" left hand 98 I am aware of. |
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Posted: 3/22/2024 9:21:44 AM EDT
[#37]
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I recently got a sporterized 1903. Now I want one as issued and a more modern precision style one. Well, not that modern. More like a mix of both. |
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NE, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 12:24:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LedZeppelin]
[#38]
https://americanrifle.odoo.com/shop/mausingfield-bolt-action-2#attr=196,182,276,262,248
If you're not doing a strict clone, this might save you a lot of gunsmithing work or open up some other options. M700 footprint trigger and stock, Savage small-shank barrel threads. 60 degree 20tpi, no double-shoulder, etc... I have one that I have set up for NRL Hunter competitions and it's miles ahead of any Mauser 98 I've handled for fit and feel, and I own a few absolutely pristine Mauser Oberndorf examples. Not to detract from the skill and workmanship of the old world stuff-- it's mind blowing the quality and scale of manufacturing from the 1900-1950's, especially Czech, German, Swiss, and Swedish stuff (IMO)... but modern manufacturing and materials are better (except maybe the Swiss... They might have done it better back then). |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 1:01:22 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LedZeppelin: https://americanrifle.odoo.com/shop/mausingfield-bolt-action-2#attr=196,182,276,262,248 If you're not doing a strict clone, this might save you a lot of gunsmithing work or open up some other options. M700 footprint trigger and stock, Savage small-shank barrel threads. 60 degree 20tpi, no double-shoulder, etc... I have one that I have set up for NRL Hunter competitions and it's miles ahead of any Mauser 98 I've handled for fit and feel, and I own a few absolutely pristine Mauser Oberndorf examples. Not to detract from the skill and workmanship of the old world stuff-- it's mind blowing the quality and scale of manufacturing from the 1900-1950's, especially Czech, German, Swiss, and Swedish stuff (IMO)... but modern manufacturing and materials are better (except maybe the Swiss... They might have done it better back then). https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/attachments/1710869930973-png.8376562/ |
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NE, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 1:36:51 PM EDT
[#40]
Not here but over on Sniper's Hide I believe I had a string of photos of the process.
https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/i-made-a-stock.7132607/ |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:22:38 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LedZeppelin: Not here but over on Sniper's Hide I believe I had a string of photos of the process. https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/i-made-a-stock.7132607/ Before replacing that barrel, give it a viking funeral via Stangskyting. |
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