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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/22/2018 9:30:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: zach_]
Also,without hours of tablet time, differences in kestral models???? .
Happy hot as hell summer to everybody. The only good thing about 100+ degrees days, is the grass grows very slowly. Z I have the freebie Strelok app, and a MagnetoSpeed Sporter. Both work very well. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/22/2018 10:15:02 PM EDT
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Are you wanting a Kestrel to give you atmospheric parameters or are you thinking about one of the ballistic models?
If you are looking for atmospherics, this table was in the manual for my 2500 NV >>> 
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Posted: 7/23/2018 1:01:01 AM EDT
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If you need a quality range finder as well, I would get the sig kilo 2400 instead....
It is an awesome piece of kit...  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 4:00:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKSnowRider:
If you need a quality range finder as well, I would get the sig kilo 2400 instead....
It is an awesome piece of kit... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/404934/fullsizeoutput_29a-616730.JPG Found it on sale, had a code, Active Junky, couldn’t pass it up. |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 4:14:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: KILLERB6]
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It depends on the type of shooting you intend to do, or rather what piece of data you need to measure more frequently:
Range = get the Sig as it comes with a useable wind. Wind and atmospherics = get the ballistic Kestrel... Thought I was still in the $100 windmeter thread; my bad! |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/23/2018 7:05:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Reorx:
Are you wanting a Kestrel to give you atmospheric parameters or are you thinking about one of the ballistic models? If you are looking for atmospherics, this table was in the manual for my 2500 NV >>> https://i.imgur.com/RBjMCyY.png The labradar looks flawless. The point of impact change with the MagnetoSpeed is getting old. I am shooting twice as much, the time involved..... |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/23/2018 8:04:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Reorx]
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zach_:
...The point of impact change with the MagnetoSpeed is getting old...
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Posted: 7/23/2018 9:27:04 AM EDT
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If you aleady have a Magneto speed get a Kestrel 4000 minimum. One thing a Kestrel is good for, aside from precise atmospherics, is helping you learn what wind looks, feels and sounds like.
If you plan on shooting multiple unknown ranges often a range finder is a good tool to have as well. Just shooting at one distance or the same known distances all the time then the range finder will sit unused most of the time. |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 11:29:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Firestarter123]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zach_:
I guess I will make some time to read about the differences with the kestral stuff. I see some shooters use kestral devices, spending as much time tinkering as shooting. I hope it is just their learning curve. The labradar looks flawless. The point of impact change with the MagnetoSpeed is getting old. I am shooting twice as much, the time involved..... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zach_:
Originally Posted By Reorx:
Are you wanting a Kestrel to give you atmospheric parameters or are you thinking about one of the ballistic models? If you are looking for atmospherics, this table was in the manual for my 2500 NV >>> https://i.imgur.com/RBjMCyY.png The labradar looks flawless. The point of impact change with the MagnetoSpeed is getting old. I am shooting twice as much, the time involved..... I'd vote for the Kestrel and specifically the 5700 Eliite w/ Link as it has been great for me. I have a Magnetospeed V3 as well but have no intention of getting a Labradar as they are just too fragile imo. ETA: I also managed to grab a Bushnell Elite CONX rangefinder from Brownell's last year for under $300 and that paired with my Kestrel is a great combo. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/24/2018 7:09:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: zach_]
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Thanks for all of the input. I am leaning towards the 5700 Kestrel. Maybe the labradar later. My MagnetoSpeed does work.
Do any of you use the Windfinder app? It seems to be close on wind direction/temperature and wind speed predictions and history. I use it to choose where I go on a given day. https://www.cabelas.com/product/BUSHNELL-RANGEFINDER-ELITE-MILE/2434873.uts?slotId=5 The kit above has a Kestrel "sportsman" included at $800.00. I called Kestrel a few minutes ago to ask about the "sportsman". I had to leave a message for a call back. I did not see it in their on line info with the limited time I had to look. Gotta go do some work... MODS, If I botched the link, please fix it. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/24/2018 11:17:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By popnfresh:
If you aleady have a Magneto speed get a Kestrel 4000 minimum. One thing a Kestrel is good for, aside from precise atmospherics, is helping you learn what wind looks, feels and sounds like. If you plan on shooting multiple unknown ranges often a range finder is a good tool to have as well. Just shooting at one distance or the same known distances all the time then the range finder will sit unused most of the time. Midway does not apply their "birthday discount" to the Kestrel brand. 
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Posted: 7/24/2018 11:20:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Firestarter123]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zach_:
Looks like the 4000 has been replaced with the 5000. Midway does not apply their "birthday discount" to the Kestrel brand. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zach_:
Originally Posted By popnfresh:
If you aleady have a Magneto speed get a Kestrel 4000 minimum. One thing a Kestrel is good for, aside from precise atmospherics, is helping you learn what wind looks, feels and sounds like. If you plan on shooting multiple unknown ranges often a range finder is a good tool to have as well. Just shooting at one distance or the same known distances all the time then the range finder will sit unused most of the time. Midway does not apply their "birthday discount" to the Kestrel brand. |
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Posted: 7/27/2018 2:45:09 PM EDT
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There are a lot of good apps that give good ballistically calculations. There are also a lot of wind/atmosphere meters that give great data that are a fraction of the cost of a Krestal. Also most apps can pull local weather and give fairly accurate data.
The best Kestral in the world isn’t worth shit without an accurate MV. Get the Labradar. It was the best money I’ve spent on shooting accessories IMO. |
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Posted: 7/30/2018 6:50:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: The best Kestral in the world isn't worth shit without an accurate MV. Get the Labradar. It was the best money I've spent on shooting accessories IMO. |
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Posted: 7/30/2018 9:11:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By popnfresh:
He already has a Magnetospeed. Still think the labradar is the better deal and worth the extra money. Easier to set up and doesn’t affect POI. Being able to do load development and get accurate MV information (an essential part of load development) all at the same time is awesome. Furthermore I use it when I’m just shooting. If I have a shot drop low or high I know weither or not it was me or the gun. I also know when the barrel starts to go. Sell the magnetospeed, get the labradar. |
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Posted: 7/30/2018 12:51:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: Gotcha, didn't see that. Still think the labradar is the better deal and worth the extra money. Easier to set up and doesn't affect POI. Being able to do load development and get accurate MV information (an essential part of load development) all at the same time is awesome. Furthermore I use it when I'm just shooting. If I have a shot drop low or high I know weither or not it was me or the gun. I also know when the barrel starts to go. Sell the magnetospeed, get the labradar. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/2/2018 9:53:14 PM EDT
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Gents, thanks very much for the input. The Kestrel will likely get the money at this time. The next shooting purchase will be the mighty Labradar.
Both will wait until the cpap total is determined. I did the preliminary testing last night  . Looks like 1.5 to 2k minimum to start, including last night's $750 slumber party.
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Posted: 8/2/2018 10:02:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BuckeyeRifleman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By popnfresh:
Ha, yeah you don't have to sell me on the Labradar but my Magnetospeed matches my Labradar within about 1fps so he would be wiser to get something for atmospherics. He has the MV covered already. This is what I use. $70 plus an iPhone with the Applied ballistics app installed. It integrates with several other ballistic apps over blue tooth. Wind, temp, pressure, humidity, etc. It does a damn good job getting me first round hits at 1K. I’m sure the Kestral has some cool features, and I’m sure it’s nice to have everything integrated in one unit, but I’m not sure it’s worth the extra $600 bucks. The labradar saves me so much time (and money) on load development I almost think it’s a must have for anyone who really wants to get in to the LR game. The magneto isn’t bad by any means, but having used it it’s a PITA to set up and I hate that it affects POI and group size. I’d still sell the magneto and get the labradar. ETA Saw the OP got the Kestral. Enjoy either way! It’s on my list. Like I said, it would be nice to have all my data and environmental parameters in one unit. |
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Posted: 8/3/2018 10:10:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: https://www.brownells.com/shooting-accessories/windmeters-amp-flags/windmeters/weatherflow-weathermeter-prod84993.aspx?cm_mmc=cse-_-Itwine-_-shopzilla-_-749-008-181&utm_medium=cse&utm_source=connexity&utm_campaign=itwine&utm_content=749-008-181 This is what I use. $70 plus an iPhone with the Applied ballistics app installed. It integrates with several other ballistic apps over blue tooth. Wind, temp, pressure, humidity, etc. It does a damn good job getting me first round hits at 1K. I'm sure the Kestral has some cool features, and I'm sure it's nice to have everything integrated in one unit, but I'm not sure it's worth the extra $600 bucks. I bought my Bluetooth Kestrel 4200 used off ebay for about $120, tells me atmopherics and that is it, connects with my phone to send the data to AB Mobile app. I would rather have the AB Mobile on my phone because it is quick and easy to change things and if one or the other goes down I will still be ok. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/5/2018 8:36:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: zach_]
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I am seeing recent bad reviews for the Applied Ballisttics mobile app that get a response confirming the problems exist from Applied Ballisttics. Have the issues been resolved?
The phone interface for my Magnetospeed never worked FOR ME. I gave up on the interface. It is in the bottom of one of my range bags unused. It is probably user error. |
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Posted: 8/5/2018 8:52:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zach_:
I am seeing recent bad reviews for the Applied Ballisttics mobile app that get a response confirming the problems exist from Applied Ballisttics. Have the issues been resolved? The phone interface for my Magnetospeed never worked FOR ME. I gave up on the interface. It is in the bottom of one of my range bags unused. It is probably user error. |
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Posted: 8/5/2018 11:45:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zach_:
I am seeing recent bad reviews for the Applied Ballisttics mobile app that get a response confirming the problems exist from Applied Ballisttics. Have the issues been resolved? The phone interface for my Magnetospeed never worked FOR ME. I gave up on the interface. It is in the bottom of one of my range bags unused. It is probably user error. |
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Posted: 8/5/2018 11:49:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: AB mobile just has an interface that isn't very intuitive. It lacks some of the features like blue tooth integration with windmeters and weather meters like other apps have. If however you give it good input data it gives the most accurate ballistic solution IMO. Bryan Litz is a super smart guy. If you ever want to learn some cool stuff about accuracy at distance, read a few of his books. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/8/2018 6:21:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By popnfresh:
I have been using AB Mobile Android for a few years with no issues. What are the problems you are seeing? |
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Posted: 8/8/2018 9:44:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: popnfresh]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zach_:
I have not purchased anything yet. My concern was sparked after reading recent reviews. I know nothing of the AB Kestrel unit, but haven't had issues with the Android AB Mobile app on my Galaxy S5. It connects up with my Bluetooth Kestrel 4200 just fine for atmospherics, of course I am just a sample size of one so I guess my experience could be different than the majority. My only complaint was with a recent update, now it asks to turn on Bluetooth. This is annoying because I am always playing with it at work or home when I don't need Bluetooth on. ...oh and the left/right zero offset is backwards last I checked. |
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Posted: 8/9/2018 2:41:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jlficken: Just don't let it fall over or else it will be broken. Lowlight has broken his at least twice now and he no longer uses it anywhere but at the range last I saw. I'd vote for the Kestrel and specifically the 5700 Eliite w/ Link as it has been great for me. I have a Magnetospeed V3 as well but have no intention of getting a Labradar as they are just too fragile imo. ETA: I also managed to grab a Bushnell Elite CONX rangefinder from Brownell's last year for under $300 and that paired with my Kestrel is a great combo. On a known distance range I could not get the Bushnell to read past 300 yards on a 12" target in full sun. tried lazing a metal roof house 1/2 mile away.. same thing. Sent it back and got a Sig 2200. |
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Posted: 10/9/2018 9:26:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zach_:
Do any of you use the Windfinder app? It seems to be close on wind direction/temperature and wind speed predictions and history. I use it to choose where I go on a given day. |
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Posted: 10/9/2018 9:59:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By popnfresh:
I meant what problems are you seeing people complaining about in the reviews. I know nothing of the AB Kestrel unit, but haven't had issues with the Android AB Mobile app on my Galaxy S5. It connects up with my Bluetooth Kestrel 4200 just fine for atmospherics, of course I am just a sample size of one so I guess my experience could be different than the majority. My only complaint was with a recent update, now it asks to turn on Bluetooth. This is annoying because I am always playing with it at work or home when I don't need Bluetooth on. ...oh and the left/right zero offset is backwards last I checked. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 3:22:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zach_:
I am seeing recent bad reviews for the Applied Ballisttics mobile app that get a response confirming the problems exist from Applied Ballisttics. Have the issues been resolved? The phone interface for my Magnetospeed never worked FOR ME. I gave up on the interface. It is in the bottom of one of my range bags unused. It is probably user error. I have the AB app and a Kestrel 5700 w AB. Both perform wonderfully. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/26/2018 9:14:05 PM EDT
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I appreciate the response.
I ordered the 5700 Elite. It better fucking work. Otherwise I will toss ........ no I wont. It looks easy enough, provided the videos were not BS. The delay was a much needed CPAP machine, & the acquisition process ($$$$ low). If your doctor recommends a CPAP, do it, immediately. If you snore badly, check it out. The benefits far outweigh the pain in the ass acquisition process and the money. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 11/27/2018 12:52:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zach_:
The delay was a much needed CPAP machine, & the acquisition process ($$$$ low). If your doctor recommends a CPAP, do it, immediately. If you snore badly, check it out. The benefits far outweigh the pain in the ass acquisition process and the money. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/28/2018 7:01:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Reorx:
What was your AHI? The results are great. The first test was a waste of money. My pc physician scolded me for not going through him as opposed to a dentist selling mouth pieces for snoring. Lesson learned. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 11/28/2018 1:45:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zach_:
Gents, thanks very much for the input. The Kestrel will likely get the money at this time. The next shooting purchase will be the mighty Labradar. Both will wait until the cpap total is determined. I did the preliminary testing last night . Looks like 1.5 to 2k minimum to start, including last night's $750 slumber party.I did submit the cost to insurance, which I never heard back from, but it was still cheaper than my copay through the vendor they were sending me to |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/28/2018 9:30:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: zach_]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crashburnrepeat: I bought my cpap from the classified, brand new resmed s9 auto for 350 bucks. Lots of Medicaid users get new ones and resell them for profit. Bought mask and stuff from cpapexchange.com for 100 bucks. Was under 500 for everything. I did submit the cost to insurance, which I never heard back from, but it was still cheaper than my copay through the vendor they were sending me to You need to understand the legalease BS. I don't. Did it work for you? Life changer for me. I thought I was just old, fat, and lazy. Not the case, I was old, fat, and not sleeping for shit. |
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