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Posted: 12/9/2018 10:32:36 AM EDT
I have a new build that I want some input on. No more precision reloading for me. Too old.
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Posted: 12/9/2018 10:39:44 AM EDT
[#1]
I’m happy with Federal Gold Medal Match and Blackhills.
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Posted: 12/9/2018 10:45:27 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rrbgeb:
I'm happy with Federal Gold Medal Match and Blackhills. |
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Posted: 12/9/2018 10:51:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jondelong:
FGMM in 168 or 175, whichever your barrel like best Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jondelong:
Originally Posted By rrbgeb:
I'm happy with Federal Gold Medal Match and Blackhills. The rest, is up to you. |
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Posted: 12/9/2018 11:05:48 AM EDT
[#4]
Thanks guys. New Kahles K525i on the way. Son is setting the rig up for me and neither of us has time to load for this. Spuhr mounts and bench rest off the back porch for beavers and fun.
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IN, USA
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Posted: 12/9/2018 11:47:40 AM EDT
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FGGM and Hornady were all that I used before I started loading. I like Hornady more because of the better bullets they offer over the SMK. I suggest buying a box of each and do some testing. Incredible deals can be had for FGGM if that’s what your rifle likes.
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Posted: 12/9/2018 3:27:16 PM EDT
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The Hornady 168 ELD load would be a good one to try. Has a higher BC than the 175 SMK and will be going faster. The Hornady 178 BTHP is a good load to try too. The 178 Superformance version is also good in some rifles and very fast too. In my 20" rifle it is 2805fps.
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Posted: 12/10/2018 12:12:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rob01:
The Hornady 168 ELD load would be a good one to try. Has a higher BC than the 175 SMK and will be going faster. The Hornady 178 BTHP is a good load to try too. The 178 Superformance version is also good in some rifles and very fast too. In my 20" rifle it is 2805fps. |
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Posted: 12/10/2018 8:48:27 AM EDT
[#8]
Federal Gold Medal Berger 185gr would be one to try
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Posted: 12/10/2018 9:47:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jason280: That's pretty good velocity out of a 20" barrels...are these loads as consistently accurate as FGMM, though? I've shot a lot of 168 and 175gr FGMM, and its been the most consistent factory ammo I have found in just about every rifle I've tried. Doesn't really matter the gun, the stuff just shoots great. The standard loads of the ELDs are like the FGMM in being consistent in rifles. |
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Posted: 12/10/2018 9:48:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jondelong:
FGMM in 168 or 175, whichever your barrel like best But FGMM is the “gold standard” and easily found. |
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Posted: 12/10/2018 11:33:54 AM EDT
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Readily available and most .308's like it: Remington 150g Core-Lokt. It's not rated match grade but often shoots to that level. Cheap and worth a try.
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Posted: 12/10/2018 7:23:17 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rrbgeb:
I’m happy with Federal Gold Medal Match and Blackhills. |
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Posted: 12/10/2018 11:06:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: newBMowner]
[#13]
I've had great results with 168gr FGMM, 175gr FGMM, and 175gr Black Hills in multiple 308s...for the price though, if the 175gr FGMM shoots well in your rifle you can often find it for 16.99 or 19.99 on sale which is close to half the cost of the Black Hills.
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Posted: 12/10/2018 11:11:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By newBMowner:
I've had great results with 168gr FGMM, 175gr FGMM, and 175gr Black Hills in multiple 308s...for the price though, if the 175gr FGMM shoots well in your rifle you can often find it for 16.99 or 19.99 on sale which is close to half the cost of the Black Hills. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/11/2018 7:13:32 PM EDT
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Depends on twist rate and length with what your guns is gonna like best, but just out to 600 you shouldn't have any issue with any of the below as all have high G1 BC and 600 isn't too far.
Federal Gold Medal Berger Jugg 185gr Federal Gold Medal SMK 168gr Federal Gold Medal SMK 175gr Federal Edge TLR 175gr Hornady ELD Match 168gr Hornady Match BTHP 168gr Hornady Precision Hunter ELD-X 178gr (This is my current fav as I can pull double duty with it as it's not quite as accurate as some of these others but also a hunting bullet so no re-zeroes) I hear the prime stuff is awesome but its too pricey for me |
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Posted: 12/11/2018 8:00:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigJimmyRustler:
Hornady Precision Hunter ELD-X 178gr (This is my current fav as I can pull double duty with it as it's not quite as accurate as some of these others but also a hunting bullet so no re-zeroes) I hear the prime stuff is awesome but its too pricey for me He took it to Wyoming, shot two pronghorn.... both times the bullet exploded, no exit, lot of meat damage. Seemed to be very little difference between the ELD-X and ELD-M based on his description of what the bullet did and how little of it stayed together. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 12/12/2018 6:44:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FALARAK: I recommended this to a friend, and we got him zero'd and had him shooting 300-600yds on steel plates no problem. He took it to Wyoming, shot two pronghorn.... both times the bullet exploded, no exit, lot of meat damage. Seemed to be very little difference between the ELD-X and ELD-M based on his description of what the bullet did and how little of it stayed together. You sure your buddy was using the right bullet |
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Posted: 12/12/2018 7:13:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FALARAK]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rex_Allen:
Shot a deer at the end of October with the eldx. 300 yard shot. Impact velocity was approximately 2100 FPS and it went in and had a good size exit wound. No crazy meat damage. You sure your buddy was using the right bullet Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rex_Allen:
Originally Posted By FALARAK: I recommended this to a friend, and we got him zero'd and had him shooting 300-600yds on steel plates no problem. He took it to Wyoming, shot two pronghorn.... both times the bullet exploded, no exit, lot of meat damage. Seemed to be very little difference between the ELD-X and ELD-M based on his description of what the bullet did and how little of it stayed together. You sure your buddy was using the right bullet  Yes. Bullets do odd things sometimes. I wasn't saying it's a bad bullet or would do this for all scenarios, simply telling an experience.
You sure you had the right bullet? |
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Posted: 12/12/2018 8:24:29 PM EDT
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FGMM 185g Berger will do quite well in the wind at extended ranges.
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USA
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Posted: 12/13/2018 8:18:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jason280: That's pretty good velocity out of a 20" barrels...are these loads as consistently accurate as FGMM, though? I've shot a lot of 168 and 175gr FGMM, and its been the most consistent factory ammo I have found in just about every rifle I've tried. Doesn't really matter the gun, the stuff just shoots great. |
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Posted: 2/9/2019 2:23:28 PM EDT
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Hornady ELD-X hunting ammo is the best in more than one of my rifles
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Posted: 2/9/2019 2:26:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FALARAK:
I recommended this to a friend, and we got him zero'd and had him shooting 300-600yds on steel plates no problem. He took it to Wyoming, shot two pronghorn.... both times the bullet exploded, no exit, lot of meat damage. Seemed to be very little difference between the ELD-X and ELD-M based on his description of what the bullet did and how little of it stayed together. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FALARAK:
Originally Posted By BigJimmyRustler:
Hornady Precision Hunter ELD-X 178gr (This is my current fav as I can pull double duty with it as it's not quite as accurate as some of these others but also a hunting bullet so no re-zeroes) I hear the prime stuff is awesome but its too pricey for me He took it to Wyoming, shot two pronghorn.... both times the bullet exploded, no exit, lot of meat damage. Seemed to be very little difference between the ELD-X and ELD-M based on his description of what the bullet did and how little of it stayed together. I have used the eld x for a few seasons now and the early stuff turned into lead dust inside with no exit and ruined a ton of meat. The recent stuff is far better. |
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Posted: 4/19/2019 6:20:53 PM EDT
[#23]
I used Black Hills 175gr in the 308 rifles I built. 3 shots into a nickel at 200 yards, regularly.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2019 8:11:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: snakeyes711]
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spartacus2002:
I used Black Hills 175gr in the 308 rifles I built. 3 shots into a nickel at 200 yards, regularly. |
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Posted: 4/19/2019 8:35:04 PM EDT
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My current favorite is Fiocchi 175 rifle match
Most of my guns like the 175 pill and this particular ammo has been shockingly accurate. Did I mention I bought it in clearance for $13 a box because the color of the box changed? 
Some Tests seem to echo my experience that it is wicked consistent. YMMV but if you missed the $16 Black friday FGMM, this stuff is good. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2019 8:55:31 PM EDT
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When I lived in SD, two well known rifle makers with 1/2 MOA guarantees used our club range where their own indoor ranges were down for maintenance. They both used Federal Gold Metal Match for their accuracy testing and test targets.
Federal Gold Medal SMK 168gr is fine out to the 600 yard line, but the 13 degree boat tail doesn't transition well to subsonic velocities, so accuracy will fall off around 900 yards at 308 Win velocities, making it problematic at the 1000 yard line. Federal Gold Medal SMK 175gr works well at 1000 yards in the .308. The 175 gr SMK and the old GI 173 gr FMJBT bullet used in M72 Match and M118 Match ammo have a 9 degree boat tail that transitions well to sub sonic velocity. It's an excellent load in the .308 if you need to shoot at ranges over 800m or so. If not, just go with the 168 gr SMK load. ---- That said, I'm also a big fan of Black Hills Ammo. I'm perhaps biased since the owner is a cousin, and I've known him since childhood, but they make great ammo. Last time I asked they also had an 18-24 month back order as they don't compromise on quality and don't increase staff to meet peak demands (and don't have to lay them off later). That however also means availability is spotty if you don't have a dealer in the area who make large orders well in advance. When I lived in western SD, I used to shoot their factory seconds. Their QA staff are OCD, and their "seconds" are better than other manufacturers "firsts". BHA is good stuff and they do a superb job of developing loads that shoot extremely well in a range of rifles. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/27/2019 10:15:14 PM EDT
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HSM loads the 155gr Palma SMK for .308. I have personally observed that ammo absolutely hammer targets with excellent precision. It's not too expensive, either.
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Posted: 4/27/2019 10:42:25 PM EDT
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FPNI...again....or as usual.
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USA
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Posted: 5/8/2019 8:28:49 PM EDT
[#29]
Tons of good options including FGMM and HSM's Berger loads.
But "best" would go to the Copper Creek 178gr ELDX: https://www.coppercreekammo.com/product/ammunition/308-winchester/308-winchester-178gr-hornady-eld-x |
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Posted: 5/10/2019 7:47:43 PM EDT
[#30]
Hornady 178 gr. BTHP has been great in my brother's M700.
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Posted: 5/10/2019 7:56:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FALARAK: This. The rest, is up to you. |
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Posted: 5/25/2019 9:16:04 PM EDT
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Not the best, but maybe the best value for volume practice? Hornady 155gr American Gunner does great out of many rifles and is decently affordable. I have bought the 200rd can for $120 a few times.
I have seen several 1/2MOA or better groups at 100yds, a 2" 3 rd group at 500yds, and shot MOA sized steel at 1000yds with it. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2019 8:01:48 PM EDT
[#33]
I have a late model 700 LTR...which is 1/12 twist. Been wanting to try 175 gr...anyone have any luck with that combo?
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Posted: 8/8/2019 1:28:15 PM EDT
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For 600yds, German MEN 7.62 NATO 147gr.
It's like mass-produced Lapua in quality and accuracy, with a very flat trajectory. In fleet samples, it is one of the most accurate 7.62 NATO/.308 options you'll ever come across. When you spot for someone shooting it, it doesn't have that typical mortar-like .308 168-175gr ballistic profile, but just shoots straight and laser-like. TOF is very short. I would not lean on it for much beyond 600-700yds, altitude-dependent. There are some great deals on it now. |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 6:33:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LRRPF52:
For 600yds, German MEN 7.62 NATO 147gr. It's like mass-produced Lapua in quality and accuracy, with a very flat trajectory. In fleet samples, it is one of the most accurate 7.62 NATO/.308 options you'll ever come across. When you spot for someone shooting it, it doesn't have that typical mortar-like .308 168-175gr ballistic profile, but just shoots straight and laser-like. TOF is very short. I would not lean on it for much beyond 600-700yds, altitude-dependent. There are some great deals on it now. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 8/13/2019 2:23:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Unicron:
I have a late model 700 LTR...which is 1/12 twist. Been wanting to try 175 gr...anyone have any luck with that combo? |
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