User Panel
Posted: 12/22/2021 5:47:20 PM EDT
I'm looking at buying a .22 rifle to try long range shooting.
I have a limited budget so am looking at spending around 400 to 600 or so for the rifle. Is the Ruger Precision worth looking at or are there other rifles I should check out? I noticed that there are several barrel lengths available. If shooting long range would a longer barrel be advisable for higher velocities? I'm not going to use a suppressor. What barrel length do you suggest? |
|
|
[Last Edit: dupemaster]
[#1]
A video from someone who knows more than I about the subject…
Barrels over 21 inches will significantly slow the projectile. Between 16” and 21” is all cosmetic. Be longer than 16” and shorter than 21.1” Optimal Barrel Length For Precision 22lr: Video 4 of 11 I’ve had 16, 17.5, 18, and 20. All shoot well out to 250. I don’t get to shoot past that all too much. |
|
I don't have anything more to say. Unless, I do.
|
[#2]
Great video that answered my question on barrel length.
Do you have any suggestions on decent rifles? |
|
|
[#3]
Originally Posted By hummerbk: I'm looking at buying a .22 rifle to try long range shooting. I have a limited budget so am looking at spending around 400 to 600 or so for the rifle. Is the Ruger Precision worth looking at or are there other rifles I should check out? I noticed that there are several barrel lengths available. If shooting long range would a longer barrel be advisable for higher velocities? I'm not going to use a suppressor. What barrel length do you suggest? View Quote A 18-20" barrel is a good place to be shooting long range with a .22. I have an 18" and shoot to 400+ in matches and have shot over 500 yards for fun. |
|
|
[#4]
|
|
|
[#5]
I went into this thinking a 22 or 24 inch was the way to go. Guess I learned something.
|
|
|
[#6]
Originally Posted By hummerbk: Great video that answered my question on barrel length. Do you have any suggestions on decent rifles? View Quote In the price range you establish, I would start with a tikka t1x. They are offered in 16, 18, and 20 iirc. You can upgrade the stock when you can afford to. Krg bravo for $25 is a great option) The trigger is not super great, but a $5 spring can get it pretty damn nice. |
|
I don't have anything more to say. Unless, I do.
|
[Last Edit: BAYOU1535]
[#7]
I just ordered a vudoo and went 22" for the legnth. The reason being is balance or not using as many weights on the chassis and hopefully sd's etc. For that amount of it's going to be tough and if you don't plan on upgrading your rifle such as with a cz, I would go tikka. I have a tikka in 17hmr and if they would offer a heavy barreled version I would pick one up. I own several tikkas and you can't beat the smoothness and trigger.
Unless something has changed, the tikka is 16" or 20" and my triggers have adjusted wonderfully without any springs and are crisp. |
|
|
[#8]
Do not confuse Ruger's use of the work "precision" in the model name to denote any type of accuracy guarantee...it's not there. The rifle simply looks like it's centerfire cousin the Ruger Precision...so they borrowed the name.
In the price range you stated, check out the Bergara BMR, Tikka T1x, Savage FV-SR (or any Savage Mk II series rifle), or any CZ 457 model in that price range. |
|
|
[#9]
I just got a Tikka T1X with a 20" barrel. I'm glad I got the 20" over the 16", both for balance and looks.
I got a Savage MK II FV SR and it was a dud. Sent it back to Savage. Haven't gotten it back yet, but a Tikka fell in my lap |
|
|
[#10]
looking for a Tikka or Begarro. Thanks for the suggestions.
|
|
|
[Last Edit: Trollslayer]
[#11]
Just for reference, all of my rimfire rifles have barrels longer than 16" or even 18". I would guess they are 24".
My rimfire rifles are not about maximizing velocity, quite the opposite. I shoot standard velocity (subsonic) ammo and do not want to it go at higher velocity. I bought it to be subsonic and I want it to stay subsonic. If it starts out too fast and passes thru the (turbulent) trans-sonic regime, it loses accuracy - not what I want. A side benefit of a longer barrel is a longer sight radius, which helps (a lot!) with aiming through iron sights. Many people add a "bloop tube" to the end of their barrel to enhance this effect. My final point will be this - the extra weight of the longer, large diameter barrel really helps stabilize the rifle when shooting offhand (standing). For me, in my context, starting with a 16" barrel is NOT the way to go. With top quality, centerfire ammo costing well over $1/round, rimfire shooting is a bargain. Enjoy your new rifle when you get it, whatever you buy. |
|
|
[Last Edit: hummerbk]
[#12]
Originally Posted By Trollslayer: Just for reference, all of my rimfire rifles have barrels longer than 16" or even 18". I would guess they are 24". My rimfire rifles are not about maximizing velocity, quite the opposite. I shoot standard velocity (subsonic) ammo and do not want to it go at higher velocity. I bought it to be subsonic and I want it to stay subsonic. If it starts out too fast and passes thru the (turbulent) trans-sonic regime, it loses accuracy - not what I want. A side benefit of a longer barrel is a longer sight radius, which helps (a lot!) with aiming through iron sights. Many people add a "bloop tube" to the end of their barrel to enhance this effect. My final point will be this - the extra weight of the longer, large diameter barrel really helps stabilize the rifle when shooting offhand (standing). For me, in my context, starting with a 16" barrel is NOT the way to go. With top quality, centerfire ammo costing well over $1/round, rimfire shooting is a bargain. Enjoy your new rifle when you get it, whatever you buy. View Quote The "16 rifles look stubby to me so I'll be looking for a "20 or at least an "18. Just starting my search but am already growing impatient! |
|
|
[#13]
I can say that my current Ruger 10/22 with a 16 inch Tac Sol light barrel is really wonky to shoot off hand. Not good practice for our off hand centerfire matches for sure.
|
|
|
[Last Edit: Trollslayer]
[#15]
Originally Posted By Rob01: You won't be shooting iron sights and I would guess offhand competition will not be on the list ... View Quote I must truly be an anomaly. I love iron sights offhand. I find it the most challenging of all. 200 yard offhand on steel targets is a LOT of fun. For me, it is not about competition. It is about the personal challenge. If it were easy, it wouldn't be as much fun. OP, did you buy a rifle yet? If not, have you considered a used rifle. The barrels never die. |
|
|
[#16]
I just ordered a 16" barreled rifle a few days ago. My reasoning is for certain barricades like the ladder, a shorter barrel will be more maneuverable and possibly quicker to reposition, or at least not get hung up as easy.
|
|
|
[#17]
Originally Posted By Bloencustoms: I just ordered a 16" barreled rifle a few days ago. My reasoning is for certain barricades like the ladder, a shorter barrel will be more maneuverable and possibly quicker to reposition, or at least not get hung up as easy. View Quote Possibly is the key word. Shooting stages with the standard .22 length barrels, 16-20" won't be an issue or even feel different. Similar stages and props are used in centerfire matches with 26-28" barrels with 3" brakes on them. The 16" will do fine in NRL22 matches though. |
|
|
[#18]
Originally Posted By Rob01: Possibly is the key word. Shooting stages with the standard .22 length barrels, 16-20" won't be an issue or even feel different. Similar stages and props are used in centerfire matches with 26-28" barrels with 3" brakes on them. The 16" will do fine in NRL22 matches though. View Quote For most of the barricades it's probably true, but even at 16.5" my Savage MkII FVSR got hung up on one of the ladder rungs in the February NRL22 match where you had to work your way down and then up the ladder. If I'd had a longer barrel, suppressor, tuner, brake or anything else hanging out there, I might have caught it on more than just the one rung. |
|
|
[#19]
Originally Posted By Jambalaya: For most of the barricades it's probably true, but even at 16.5" my Savage MkII FVSR got hung up on one of the ladder rungs in the February NRL22 match where you had to work your way down and then up the ladder. If I'd had a longer barrel, suppressor, tuner, brake or anything else hanging out there, I might have caught it on more than just the one rung. View Quote That comes down to training. Practice the ladder more and you will learn to pull all the way out and then back in on the next one and not get hung up. It’s like shooting any prop where you have to set the rifle into the prop and have to pull it back out before changing positions. People try to go fast and don’t pull the rifle all the way out and get hung up. Got to be smooth and pull rifle out and then back into next one. That comes with practice. Might feel like it takes longer but it’s quicker when you do it smooth. |
|
|
[#20]
Originally Posted By Trollslayer: Just for reference, all of my rimfire rifles have barrels longer than 16" or even 18". I would guess they are 24". My rimfire rifles are not about maximizing velocity, quite the opposite. I shoot standard velocity (subsonic) ammo and do not want to it go at higher velocity. I bought it to be subsonic and I want it to stay subsonic. If it starts out too fast and passes thru the (turbulent) trans-sonic regime, it loses accuracy - not what I want. A side benefit of a longer barrel is a longer sight radius, which helps (a lot!) with aiming through iron sights. Many people add a "bloop tube" to the end of their barrel to enhance this effect. My final point will be this - the extra weight of the longer, large diameter barrel really helps stabilize the rifle when shooting offhand (standing). For me, in my context, starting with a 16" barrel is NOT the way to go. With top quality, centerfire ammo costing well over $1/round, rimfire shooting is a bargain. Enjoy your new rifle when you get it, whatever you buy. View Quote Excellent post. Just to further emphasize the point, true match grade target ammo for .22LR is subsonic for a reason. The reason is stated above. You want to stay subsonic, and it actually has less wind drift. Holdovers are pretty easy with a "tree" type scope reticle and/or accurate, repeatable exposed turrets. Its the wind drift that is the greater challenge. |
|
|
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.