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Posted: 11/18/2017 4:12:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dace]
Has anyone ever updated the Savage 10 FCP-SR proprietary magazine system to an AI type system? I am trying to figure out if this is home level installation or if I need to find a gunsmith.
Rifle like this. 
Magazine system like this http://accurate-mag.com/bottom-metals/ Update: I talked to Accurate Mag today. It appears that if the FCP-SR uses the accustock (it does) and that the bolt release is not at the bottom (it isn't), their bottom metal should be a direct drop in. http://store.accurate-mag.com/savageshortactionbottommetalkit.aspx Here are the dimensions of the bottom metal so you can measure your stock. http://accurate-mag.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/STD-104-rev-A.pdf  Attached FileI am going to order it and see if it works without gunsmithing. The bottom metal and magazine will be almost as much as I just paid for this rifle brand new which was $450 shipped. But I think it will be worth it. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 11/18/2017 7:38:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Urimaginaryfrnd]
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Actually its pretty simple - you know that little lever at the back of the mag that makes it drop out just press it and put the AI mag into the rifle.
Magpul also makes some AI compatible mags I have a 10FP in the desert digital camo and it runs my AI mags just like my Badger Bottom metal and my Surgeon Bottom metal on my Remington rifles. Mine came with the threaded barrel also so pretty sure yours runs AI mags. 
If that doesn't work here is plan B https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/bottom-metals/savage-308-detachable-bottom-metal-prod73348.aspx |
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Posted: 11/18/2017 7:56:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Urimaginaryfrnd:
Actually its pretty simple - you know that little lever at the back of the mag that makes it drop out just press it and put the AI mag into the rifle. Magpul also makes some AI compatible mags I have a 10FP in the desert digital camo and it runs my AI mags just like my Badger Bottom metal and my Surgeon Bottom metal on my Remington rifles. Mine came with the threaded barrel also so pretty sure yours runs AI mags.
If that doesn't work here is plan B https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/bottom-metals/savage-308-detachable-bottom-metal-prod73348.aspx 
There's a difference in the FP and FCP. I just picked up an FCP-SR and it takes a proprietary Savage 10 round mag (which I can only fit 9 rounds in  ). I don't have an AICS mag laying around to try it but I'm pretty sure it won't work "as is". I'm eventually going to drop it in an MDT chassis which does use AICS mags.
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Posted: 11/18/2017 8:17:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Urimaginaryfrnd:
Actually its pretty simple - you know that little lever at the back of the mag that makes it drop out just press it and put the AI mag into the rifle. Magpul also makes some AI compatible mags I have a 10FP in the desert digital camo and it runs my AI mags just like my Badger Bottom metal and my Surgeon Bottom metal on my Remington rifles. Mine came with the threaded barrel also so pretty sure yours runs AI mags.
If that doesn't work here is plan B https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/bottom-metals/savage-308-detachable-bottom-metal-prod73348.aspx |
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Posted: 11/20/2017 9:48:05 AM EDT
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Well, I bet the previous generation FCP-SR bottom metal will fit without too much work.
Savage did not make the bottom metal and mags, but purchased them. |
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Posted: 11/20/2017 3:38:56 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jough43:
Well, I bet the previous generation FCP-SR bottom metal will fit without too much work. Savage did not make the bottom metal and mags, but purchased them. OP, to your actual question - I'm not sure. I've seen it mentioned on multiple forums that one simply needs to get the Accurate-Mag bottom metal. I can't imagine it's that much of a difference or something that a Dremel wouldn't fix. I have one of the original Savages with the AI mags. PM me if you do this, I'm interested in how it turns out since I was originally going to go your route due to the rarity of the original rifles. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 11/22/2017 10:04:27 PM EDT
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On the current 10 FCP-SR it’s a direct drop in. Just make sure that you order the correct one. Also, check the price of AI mags before you buy the bottom metal. It might change your mind.
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Posted: 11/23/2017 1:04:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tcoz73:
On the current 10 FCP-SR it’s a direct drop in. Just make sure that you order the correct one. Also, check the price of AI mags before you buy the bottom metal. It might change your mind. |
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Posted: 11/24/2017 10:41:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: FALbert]
[#8]
Isn't the Magpul PMAG for the Rem 700 AI compatible? Price a little less but still sucks.
ETA - When did Savage release the FCP-SR version that can use the AI magazines? I think I bought mine in 2015. |
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Posted: 11/24/2017 10:46:43 AM EDT
[#9]
I have been thinking of trying to change magazines on my 10-FCP. The options are confusing. What would I need?
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Posted: 11/24/2017 11:27:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dace]
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FALbert:
Isn't the Magpul PMAG for the Rem 700 AI compatible? Price a little less but still sucks. ETA - When did Savage release the FCP-SR version that can use the AI magazines? I think I bought mine in 2015. |
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Posted: 11/24/2017 11:28:01 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zoe17:
I have been thinking of trying to change magazines on my 10-FCP. The options are confusing. What would I need? |
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USA
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Posted: 11/25/2017 8:55:18 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FALbert:
Isn't the Magpul PMAG for the Rem 700 AI compatible? Price a little less but still sucks. ETA - When did Savage release the FCP-SR version that can use the AI magazines? I think I bought mine in 2015. 
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Posted: 11/25/2017 6:17:44 PM EDT
[#13]
Originally Posted By Dace: The original ahd AI mags and bottom metal. They in mid 2015 they switch the rifle up completely. Different stock, bottom metal and scope base. It had no threaded muzzle, no oversized bolt handle, and no Accu-stock. Other than that, the rest was identical including that 10 round magazine. |
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Posted: 11/27/2017 3:45:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dace]
[#14]
Update:
I talked to Accurate Mag today. It appears that if the FCP-SR uses the accustock (it does) and that the bolt release is not at the bottom (it isn't), their bottom metal should be a direct drop in. http://store.accurate-mag.com/savageshortactionbottommetalkit.aspx Here are the dimensions of the bottom metal so you can measure your stock. http://accurate-mag.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/STD-104-rev-A.pdf Attached FileI am going to order it and see if it works without gunsmithing. The bottom metal and magazine will be almost as much as I just paid for this rifle brand new which was $450 shipped. But I think it will be worth it. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 11/27/2017 8:55:36 PM EDT
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I have a GRS stock on my model 10. It used the factory bottom metal perfectly. Then I picked up another action in 7SAUM and wanted more than 2rds in a mag as an option. I bought an accurate mag setup. It was mostly a direct drop-in. It required some slight inletting on my stock, which is aftermarket, due to a very tight fit of the rear trigger guard portion. Then I had to work on alignment of the rear action screw and the length of the screw. The supplied hardware was a bit long and hit the bolt. I shaved a few threads off both front and rear action screws with a Dremel cutoff wheel. Now it's all good. A Magpul AICS pmag work but they need to be modified. If you look at your Accurate mag and an AICS Pmag you'll see what needs to be done. I'd share pics but Photobucket blows and imgur wants me to download an app no matter what. So if you want PM me and I will email you pics.
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Posted: 11/28/2017 12:19:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By smokinghole:
I have a GRS stock on my model 10. It used the factory bottom metal perfectly. Then I picked up another action in 7SAUM and wanted more than 2rds in a mag as an option. I bought an accurate mag setup. It was mostly a direct drop-in. It required some slight inletting on my stock, which is aftermarket, due to a very tight fit of the rear trigger guard portion. Then I had to work on alignment of the rear action screw and the length of the screw. The supplied hardware was a bit long and hit the bolt. I shaved a few threads off both front and rear action screws with a Dremel cutoff wheel. Now it's all good. A Magpul AICS pmag work but they need to be modified. If you look at your Accurate mag and an AICS Pmag you'll see what needs to be done. I'd share pics but Photobucket blows and imgur wants me to download an app no matter what. So if you want PM me and I will email you pics. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 11/28/2017 3:32:47 AM EDT
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They are, but the difference is minor. Towards the front of the Pmag feedlips there is a slope down, it needs to be more of a 90 angle. With out dremeling some plastic away it will interfere with the internal machining of the dbm preventing the mag from seating. It was seriously just 5 min of wearing the angle down enough to seat the mag.
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Posted: 12/1/2017 1:52:22 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By smokinghole:
They are, but the difference is minor. Towards the front of the Pmag feedlips there is a slope down, it needs to be more of a 90 angle. With out dremeling some plastic away it will interfere with the internal machining of the dbm preventing the mag from seating. It was seriously just 5 min of wearing the angle down enough to seat the mag. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 12/1/2017 8:26:59 PM EDT
[#19]
What is the benefit of the AI mags over the proprietary mags from Savage? Honestly curious, no trolling.
I actually stopped and finger fucked the same rifle today. Where did you find it for $450ish? Bass Pro was $659. |
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Posted: 12/2/2017 2:49:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Dace]
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cameronswmp9:
What is the benefit of the AI mags over the proprietary mags from Savage? Honestly curious, no trolling. I actually stopped and finger fucked the same rifle today. Where did you find it for $450ish? Bass Pro was $659. The magazines have reliability issues hence wanting new bottom metal. https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/201372 https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/154881 |
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Posted: 1/12/2019 11:25:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Urimaginaryfrnd:
Actually its pretty simple - you know that little lever at the back of the mag that makes it drop out just press it and put the AI mag into the rifle. Magpul also makes some AI compatible mags I have a 10FP in the desert digital camo and it runs my AI mags just like my Badger Bottom metal and my Surgeon Bottom metal on my Remington rifles. Mine came with the threaded barrel also so pretty sure yours runs AI mags.
If that doesn't work here is plan B https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/bottom-metals/savage-308-detachable-bottom-metal-prod73348.aspx |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 1/14/2019 12:10:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AHC222]
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ColdEngineer:
I hate to bring up an old thread but @urimaginaryfrnd can you take a picture of the bottom metal of your stock Savage that, out of the box, accepts AI mags? I have a Cabelas exclusive model, the 10T-SR which has an accustock and lower magazine release but almost nobody on the internet has had one and tried to use AI style magazines. If I don't have to relace the bottom magazine well that would be sweet, but I need to move to AI mags because the savage ones suck This youtube video shows the Savage proprietary bottom metal for their mags, and also the Accurate Mag bottom metal. The video embedding isn't working for some reason, so follow the link. Link |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/14/2019 8:12:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BushmasterGuy77]
[#23]
Accurate mag bottom metal is drop in for Accustocks.
CDI bottom metal is drop in for HS Precision stocks. |
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Posted: 1/14/2019 9:24:49 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BushmasterGuy77:
Accurate mag bottom metal is drop in for Accustocks. CDI bottom metal is drop in for HS Precision stocks. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 1/15/2019 10:56:48 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BushmasterGuy77:
Accurate mag bottom metal is drop in for Accustocks. CDI bottom metal is drop in for HS Precision stocks. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 1/15/2019 11:00:20 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zoe17: So my 10-FCP the CDI is what I need? |
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Posted: 1/15/2019 11:55:17 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AHC222:
This is my understanding as well. My Accurate Mag bottom metal was pretty tight by the rear screw in my HS Precision stock. It took about 2 minutes with a Dremel to open it up and now works great, anyone could do that. I'd tell anyone trying to decide between CDI and Accurate to not overthink this part too much and rule out Accurate Mag bottom metal for this reason. Super simple inlet. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AHC222:
Originally Posted By BushmasterGuy77:
Accurate mag bottom metal is drop in for Accustocks. CDI bottom metal is drop in for HS Precision stocks. I think anyone going down this path needs to understand there is no such thing as "drop in". There is "almost there" with minimal fitting required. Its not metal works its usually on the plastic stock itself so something anyone at home could do. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/16/2019 4:38:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BushmasterGuy77]
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zoe17: So my 10-FCP the CDI is what I need? |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/16/2019 4:41:03 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AHC222:
This is my understanding as well. My Accurate Mag bottom metal was pretty tight by the rear screw in my HS Precision stock. It took about 2 minutes with a Dremel to open it up and now works great, anyone could do that. I'd tell anyone trying to decide between CDI and Accurate to not overthink this part too much and rule out Accurate Mag bottom metal for this reason. Super simple inlet. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/16/2019 4:46:51 AM EDT
[#30]
And that's true with almost everything firearm related. Some light filing or sanding at most. It's not hard and I hate DIY stuff.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dace: My accurate mag required some dremeling in my Accustock. I think anyone going down this path needs to understand there is no such thing as "drop in". There is "almost there" with minimal fitting required. Its not metal works its usually on the plastic stock itself so something anyone at home could do. |
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Posted: 1/21/2019 11:33:14 AM EDT
[#31]
Now that Savage ditched the proprietary mag and went back to AICS, does anybody know if you could buy the (probably plastic) bottom metal from Savage and retrofit into the older Accustock rifles?
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Posted: 1/21/2019 12:05:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dace]
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Now that Savage ditched the proprietary mag and went back to AICS, does anybody know if you could buy the (probably plastic) bottom metal from Savage and retrofit into the older Accustock rifles? Do you want my old stuff to try it out? |
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Posted: 1/21/2019 12:09:52 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dace: @fightinghellfish Do you want my old stuff to try it out? If your old stuff is the newer Savage bottom metal that takes AICS mags I'd love to try it. |
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Posted: 1/21/2019 12:23:11 PM EDT
[#34]
What works with the 10-FCP that has H.S. precision stock? I can file plastic if needed. Just confused as to what works.
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Posted: 1/21/2019 1:05:19 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BushmasterGuy77:
Yes sir. Mine dropped in. Nice and tight fit, too. I spoke with the owner of CDI (Jeff, I believe?) and he said that usually they drop in without a problem. If it doesn't, he'll inlet it for free. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BushmasterGuy77:
Originally Posted By zoe17: So my 10-FCP the CDI is what I need? |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 1/21/2019 1:32:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AHC222]
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Now that Savage ditched the proprietary mag and went back to AICS, does anybody know if you could buy the (probably plastic) bottom metal from Savage and retrofit into the older Accustock rifles? *Edit* - Just to clarify, the new Savage AICS bottom metal is not plastic. |
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Posted: 1/21/2019 1:39:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AHC222:
If I'm understanding you correctly, you're wanting to buy the new Savage bottom metal that accepts AICS mags, and dump the bottom metal that accepts proprietary Savage mags in your Accustock? If that is correct, I called Savage sometime last year about doing just that. They wanted $200-230 or so for the new bottom metal if I remember correctly. Without knowing anything about their newer bottom metal or seeing any reviews on it, I just went with the $135 Accurate Mag bottom metal and was very happy in my HS Precision stock. Looks like the new Savage bottom metal would be about the most expensive option, and with the reviews CID and Accurate Mag get I wouldn't chance it. *Edit* - Just to clarify, the new Savage AICS bottom metal is not plastic. |
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Posted: 1/21/2019 3:26:04 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FightingHellfish:
You start looking at the cost for just bottom metal to upgrade the Accustock and it makes sense just to go for a chassis at some point. The new Oryx at $400 looks pretty affordable. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Originally Posted By AHC222:
If I'm understanding you correctly, you're wanting to buy the new Savage bottom metal that accepts AICS mags, and dump the bottom metal that accepts proprietary Savage mags in your Accustock? If that is correct, I called Savage sometime last year about doing just that. They wanted $200-230 or so for the new bottom metal if I remember correctly. Without knowing anything about their newer bottom metal or seeing any reviews on it, I just went with the $135 Accurate Mag bottom metal and was very happy in my HS Precision stock. Looks like the new Savage bottom metal would be about the most expensive option, and with the reviews CID and Accurate Mag get I wouldn't chance it. *Edit* - Just to clarify, the new Savage AICS bottom metal is not plastic. But if you think you want a chassis then the new bottom metal isnt the right choice. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 1/21/2019 3:29:56 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FightingHellfish:
You start looking at the cost for just bottom metal to upgrade the Accustock and it makes sense just to go for a chassis at some point. The new Oryx at $400 looks pretty affordable. It's good to see a few more chassis options for Savage. For mine personally, I kind of wanted the traditional stock look and therefore went with a HS Precision PST114 stock and Accurate Mag bottom metal. I probably would have went with a Bravo if KRG would inlet for Savage SA, but I'm still pretty happy with how mine turned out. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/21/2019 8:40:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BushmasterGuy77]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zoe17:
What works with the 10-FCP that has H.S. precision stock? I can file plastic if needed. Just confused as to what works. Accurate mag will need a little bit of material removed by filing or sanding. It's not much and it's super easy. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 1/24/2019 7:13:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BushmasterGuy77: CDI drops in. It did for me and many others, but YMMV. Accurate mag will need a little bit of material removed by filing or sanding. It's not much and it's super easy. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/25/2019 12:47:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BushmasterGuy77]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ridgerunner11: Do you know if this will work with the 6.5cm with Accustock? I'm guessing yes but figured i would check first. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 1/26/2019 9:46:21 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BushmasterGuy77: Yes, but you will probably have to do some light sanding or fitting. Which model rifle? The 10T-SR? New or old Accustock? Because savage not only has updated the accustock, but they stopped using accurate mag bottom metal and now use their own bottom metal. Savage makes bottom metal that uses AICS mags and one that uses their factory mags. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2020 8:36:42 PM EDT
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If you’re going to spend that much get one of these instead. https://mdttac.com/us_en/lss-chassis-system.html
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Posted: 5/10/2020 8:52:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FightingHellfish]
[#45]
Zombie thread!
I just finally ordered the Accurate Mag Bottom Metal. $130 with no mag. I already have magazines. I added an adjustable cheek piece to the Accustock and the only real issue left is the crappy magazine. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 9:07:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Subshooter: If you’re going to spend that much get one of these instead. https://mdttac.com/us_en/lss-chassis-system.html I think the chassis has its place depending on how you will use the rifle. At the same time even that chassis will be 3-4 times the cost of just buying the bottom metal. And then you need to find a stock and pistol grip which adds to the cost again. They have their place and are likely a little more accurate but they are not cheaper then just buying bottom metal if you already have the accustock. |
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Posted: 5/11/2020 6:57:01 PM EDT
[#47]
One thing that I hate about savage is ther BS magazines. Dam things drop befor shooting a full 10 round mag. Been looking for options myself. Shoots 200 ELD-X awesome. When I had a 10T, I purchased a Cadex chassis. Uses AICS mags. Worked awesome. Really don't want to buy another chassis for this rifle but from my searches, may be the only option to use other reliable mags.
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Posted: 5/11/2020 8:54:28 PM EDT
[#48]
Originally Posted By Bearcat24: One thing that I hate about savage is ther BS magazines. Dam things drop befor shooting a full 10 round mag. Been looking for options myself. Shoots 200 ELD-X awesome. When I had a 10T, I purchased a Cadex chassis. Uses AICS mags. Worked awesome. Really don't want to buy another chassis for this rifle but from my searches, may be the only option to use other reliable mags. Is that a common problem? I don't remember hearing people talk about it. The AICS mags are better all around anyway. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 4:21:29 PM EDT
[#49]
Anybody order from AccurateMag before? I ordered a week ago, and promptly got an email from them (not under the AccurateMag name) and they charged my card, but not a peep since.
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Posted: 5/15/2020 5:13:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Is that a common problem? I don't remember hearing people talk about it. The AICS mags are better all around anyway. Yes, it is a common problem with savage. Every savage rifle I have owned does the same thing. My 10T in 308 and 338 FCP LM did it, my wifes 243 axis does it too. Savage mag system plain sucks. When I had the cadex chassis on my 10T, never an issue using AICS mags. May just sell my 10 FCP and go to another brand. Sure as hell will never buy another savage rifle. |
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