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Posted: 3/12/2018 10:18:05 AM EDT
Ok, so trying to decide between the two.
Ruger Configuration Affordable magazines, 10/15/25 rnd built in scope rail trigger doesn't need aftermaket parts no aftermarket, yet, but that'll probably change CZ Well, its a cz May need YoDave kit? Magazines 10 round and more expensive Needs aftermarket rail, which can get spendy Shooting out to 100 yards( longest distance available at my range) Would like to get into match shooting I know this is kind of really general, but would like opinions. |
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I have the RPRimfire and a CZ455 (the Varmint Evolution version, not the Tactical version) in the safe. Both have Redfield 3-9x40 scopes and Harris bipods. I shoot equally well with them and they are both good values for the money. If I had to buy one or the other, I'd buy...
...the Ruger for the accuracy and ease of accessorizing/suppressing (the barrel is already threaded) ...the CZ455 for the accuracy and the multi-caliber ability (easily converted between .17HMR/.22LR/.22WMR with a barrel/magazine kit from CZ) That said, I cannot leave things alone so I bought the additional CZ barrels and had them and the .22LR barrel threaded for a SilencerCo White Sparrow, and I also modded a Timney trigger to work in the RPRimfire (I posted in this Forum on that). At this point the two rifles perform about the same. The Ruger looks more tacticool while the CZ is fancy. Either one will let you do well at 100yd. The CZ will let you drop coyotes out to 100yd and rabbits out to 200yd with .17HMR, if that's something you care to do. The design of the Ruger is such that it will require a lot of work to make a .17HMR/.22WMR version due to the longer cartridge. I hope they do it, of course, but it'll likely be a while before we see it. So, no real help at all here, but some more things to consider. |
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I see you listed those two options but did you also consider the tikka in 22 or 17 that is coming out shortly. I pre ordered the tikka 17 hmr and am anxious to get it. I don't believe you will find many matches for the 17 hmr but you can also get it in 22.
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I own the Ruger and I bought it for one overarching reason... the adjustability of the rifle. I am teaching my kids (10 and 11) and my wife how to shoot precision rifle and I can fit this gun to each of us with the twist of one bolt. So far we have shot it out to 300 yards and its a great trainer and a fun way to enjoy the day with the family.
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I had decided to get a Tacticool suppressor ready only to find they are out of stock everywhere.
One or two high priced GB auctions that's it. |
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Just Drop... Buckethead!
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First off the Yo Daves kit is a scam. all that is needed is a lighter spring. The CZ 455 has an excellent Trigger. I have a 455 American stainless that has an amazing trigger. when you pull on the trigger it just breaks clean.
I don't think the Ruger trigger will be even close. Otherwise people would be talking about it. |
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Originally Posted By gsd2053:
First off the Yo Daves kit is a scam. all that is needed is a lighter spring. The CZ 455 has an excellent Trigger. I have a 455 American stainless that has an amazing trigger. when you pull on the trigger it just breaks clean. I don't think the Ruger trigger will be even close. Otherwise people would be talking about it. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Harv24:
Have you shot the Ruger Trigger? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Harv24:
Originally Posted By gsd2053:
First off the Yo Daves kit is a scam. all that is needed is a lighter spring. The CZ 455 has an excellent Trigger. I have a 455 American stainless that has an amazing trigger. when you pull on the trigger it just breaks clean. I don't think the Ruger trigger will be even close. Otherwise people would be talking about it. |
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Originally Posted By gsd2053:
First off the Yo Daves kit is a scam. all that is needed is a lighter spring. The CZ 455 has an excellent Trigger. I have a 455 American stainless that has an amazing trigger. when you pull on the trigger it just breaks clean. I don't think the Ruger trigger will be even close. Otherwise people would be talking about it. View Quote |
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Just Drop... Buckethead!
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Calling the yo Dave kit a scam is a bit harsh isn’t it? It’s a package of springs and precise thin wall shims to adjust weight of pull and amount of sear engagement.
I am a CZ shooter but not a yodave customer because you can work the trigger yourself with minor clean up and a spring swap that can be found at the hard ware store. It’s a convenience item for the less confident of their gunsmithing abilities not a scam. Just my opinion. Oh and the Ruger is ugly. That’s my opinion too. |
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My 455’s trigger was absolute dog shit until I installed the Yodave kit.
I actually thought it was a sloppy 2 stage trigger with a 3 lb pull until the kit was installed Now, it’s a .75 lb single stage dream that breaks like glass. |
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Originally Posted By Harv24:
Have you shot the Ruger Trigger? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Harv24:
Originally Posted By gsd2053:
First off the Yo Daves kit is a scam. all that is needed is a lighter spring. The CZ 455 has an excellent Trigger. I have a 455 American stainless that has an amazing trigger. when you pull on the trigger it just breaks clean. I don't think the Ruger trigger will be even close. Otherwise people would be talking about it. Have you shot the CZ 455 trigger with a light trigger spring? If so how does it compare? |
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Originally Posted By JethrOO:
Would like to get into match shooting View Quote All the match winners in my area shoot Anschutz or CZ. |
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Originally Posted By gsd2053:
No I have not. Have you shot the CZ 455 trigger with a light trigger spring? If so how does it compare? View Quote I did in fact snip a few coils off the Ruger's inner trigger blade spring and then made a slight adjustment to the main trigger. Ruger definitely did a good job on these newer triggers. If CZ steps up to the plate and redesigns there magazine system, and perhaps makes the bolt handle a bit easier to grab,I may give them a shot, but for now, I am extremely happy with the Target model from Ruger. |
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To chime in on the topic (although a bit late), my choice would hands down be the CZ. Here is my story: I own the CZ 455 precision trainer, the ruger precision rimfire (RPR), and the ruger American rimfire (RAR) all in 22 long rifle. Yes I know… that’s a lot of rimfire bolt guns for one person. I shoot a lot of rimfire due to squirrel hunting and have begun shooting the NRL22 matches as well. I love my CZ and admit to a bias, however I first bought the RAR (the RPR was not offered at the time) because I wanted to see if it could compete with the CZ but run the many 10/22 mags I had already. After modifying the RAR and shooting many, many squirrels with it, I would say it is approximately 80% of what the CZ is. The advantages is that it is much lighter and walking around with it was a pleasure. When using it with a bipod in a fixed position and trying to squeeze tight groups out of it, it wasn't able to beat the CZ due to the stock. At this time they released the RPR and instead of buying a better stock for the RAR I opted to try the RPR. Out of the box the RPR had issue with magazine feeding issue and wild flyers. It wasn't even shooting on par with the RAR. I am still problem shooting the RPR, so the jury is still out, but I am also shooting the NRL22 matches here locally and saw about 3 RPR’s on the line two weeks ago. The other shooters had the same issues with magazines and flyers, even with high end match grade ammo, but continued to run them because their centerfire guns are Ruger Precision Rifles and they want the trainer to be as similar to the centerfires as possible. Going in to this I knew that the CZ would shoot better (because this thing is awesome) but I bought the Ruger because I would love to run higher capacity magazines than the super long CZ 25 rounder (that seems more like a novelty than an actual magazine intended for use). I set out down this road thinking that if the Ruger could shoot 90% of what the CZ could at less then half then cost, then I would be inclined to run the ruger and perhaps sell the CZ to fund my centerfire build. So far that has not been the case. An admitted bias towards the CZ as well as the quality control issue of the RPR would lead me to recommending the CZ without hesitation.
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Thanks for taking the time to post your experience... I still like the CZ and think it's a helluva gun, I just wish the magazine system was more like the Ruger...
I bought the Target model Ruger as they did not have the Ruger Precision rimfire out yet... So all my experience is with the heavy cold hammer forged barrel on the Target model and I have to say that it is 90+% of what a CZ is... so it hits all the key spots for me... CZ is still resting on there Laurels I think vs. Ruger... If CZ really wanted to shake it up, they would come out with a rimfire that fits in the R700 Profile and make a AICS type mag to feed a Rimfire Like Vudoo did, but without the $2K price tag, and I believe they will own the Precision Rimfire market. |
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I bought an aftermarket trigger for my CZ-452 because the trigger sucked. I went into the store wanting a Ruger, walked out with the CZ. It shoots fantastic.
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