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Posted: 11/15/2017 10:43:06 AM EDT
Anyone else getting in on this? I just called in an order for a JP barrel.
Link Posted: 11/15/2017 10:55:47 AM EDT
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Do you use normal AR magazines??? If so, at what capacity?
Link Posted: 11/15/2017 11:00:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Nick710:
Do you use normal AR magazines??? If so, at what capacity?
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It's based off of the 6.8, so 6.8 mags.
Link Posted: 11/15/2017 4:48:29 PM EDT
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So on that note: who makes the best 6.8 mags? Preferably something that can be loaded longer like ASC mags can be.
Link Posted: 11/15/2017 4:59:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lennyo3034:
So on that note: who makes the best 6.8 mags? Preferably something that can be loaded longer like ASC mags can be.
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PRI
Link Posted: 11/15/2017 6:15:07 PM EDT
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PRI Modified Magazine 6.8 SPC  Max COAL 2.36" $49.95

http://www.cavitybackbullets.com/product-p/cb-pri-mod-mag.htm
Link Posted: 11/15/2017 7:28:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lennyo3034:
Anyone else getting in on this? I just called in an order for a JP barrel.
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Yup. I’ve ordered 2 uppers to ensure I get a good fit, may also build one for my dad.

Still waiting to see what barrel options will be available. I’ve had good luck with BA, but I may have to just get a reamer if I want one soon and under 400$.
Link Posted: 11/15/2017 7:35:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SuperJlarge:


Yup. I’ve ordered 2 uppers to ensure I get a good fit, may also build one for my dad.

Still waiting to see what barrel options will be available. I’ve had good luck with BA, but I may have to just get a reamer if I want one soon and under 400$.
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JP said theirs won't ship till January. Which is good for me since I'm in the middle of two projects and just went to a bachelor party. Wallet is kicking me in the nuts.
Link Posted: 11/17/2017 10:13:50 PM EDT
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Anyone see other companies producing barrels for the .224 Valkyrie?
Link Posted: 11/17/2017 10:57:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tet493:
Anyone see other companies producing barrels for the .224 Valkyrie?
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ARP plans on making barrels
Link Posted: 11/18/2017 9:11:46 AM EDT
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Rainer Arms has a few 224 V barrels on their website at moment. All OOS but shows photos and details
Link Posted: 11/18/2017 3:01:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WillysJeep:
Rainer Arms has a few 224 V barrels on their website at moment. All OOS but shows photos and details
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I saw that, but also saw 1-7.5 twist. Not sure how well that's going to handle the 90 SMK.
Link Posted: 11/18/2017 7:17:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lennyo3034:

I saw that, but also saw 1-7.5 twist. Not sure how well that's going to handle the 90 SMK.
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Interesting. Doesn't make sense though. A 1:7 would be fine even for the lower weight bullets offered for it.
Link Posted: 11/18/2017 7:22:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ARShooter91:
Interesting. Doesn't make sense though. A 1:7 would be fine even for the lower weight bullets offered for it.
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Originally Posted By ARShooter91:
Originally Posted By Lennyo3034:

I saw that, but also saw 1-7.5 twist. Not sure how well that's going to handle the 90 SMK.
Interesting. Doesn't make sense though. A 1:7 would be fine even for the lower weight bullets offered for it.
Velocity and bullet length both play a part in determining optimal twist rates.
Link Posted: 11/19/2017 9:29:26 AM EDT
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It looks like BA was considering doing them based on the thread in their industry forum.
Link Posted: 11/19/2017 10:39:15 AM EDT
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Cross Machine Tool said they would have complete uppers on their site in the next few weeks. Think the barrels will be 24.5".

JP and Rainer Arms barrels both will be rifle +2 or +3 gas system depending on length. Will be curious if others go with extended gas as well.
Link Posted: 11/20/2017 1:43:09 PM EDT
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It seems like suddenly I'm hearing about this in a lot of threads. I looked up the ballistics and it looks pretty impressive. Is there any information on the development of this? I'm weary of getting into new cartridges because it seems like for the first few years there is often a big revision to them (6.8SPC for example).
Link Posted: 11/27/2017 10:51:07 PM EDT
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I've got a custom billet receiver set that my best buddy gave me that I've been wanting to do something with. Think I've finally settled on using them to build a 224V SPR.

I'm actually pretty excited about this new round. I have several 300blk rifles/uppers but was never head over hills for it.. I can't wait to finish this build
Link Posted: 12/9/2017 3:05:11 AM EDT
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It would seem like the .224 AR would do the same thing w/ about 200 fps more velocity(ie 90 grain bullets at 2800+ fps).
Link Posted: 12/9/2017 3:56:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By winxlite:
It would seem like the .224 AR would do the same thing w/ about 200 fps more velocity(ie 90 grain bullets at 2800+ fps).
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Factory support from Federal is really what separates the .224 Valkyrie from many wildcats.
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 12:58:14 PM EDT
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I contacted AR Performance just last week and received a reply that they have NO plans to add .224 Valkyrie to their barrel offering. Sure wish they would.
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 3:31:57 PM EDT
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How will federal brass be?  The brass they use in fgmm is soft and won't last beyond 2-3 reloads, with mild loads, before pocket is loose.
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 8:57:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DH243:
How will federal brass be?  The brass they use in fgmm is soft and won't last beyond 2-3 reloads, with mild loads, before pocket is loose.
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I rarely get that many loads out of brass in a semi auto anyways. It usually gets lost or dinged up too much. In a bolt gun, certainly a concern.
Link Posted: 1/28/2018 11:41:06 PM EDT
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Any idea about barrel life? I like the idea of the 90 gr SMK @2750 fps. I am currently running that velocity with the 90s in a 30" Savage FTR 223 and it has been great out to 600 and that is as far as I can shoot locally.
Link Posted: 1/29/2018 9:58:37 PM EDT
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**not to get to off topic but...  IS all Federal brass only good for 2-3 reloads?  reason i ask is cause I have been shooting mostly LC and FC brass in my 308 and i got about 8 reloads out of them before i started seeing neck splits.
Link Posted: 1/29/2018 10:28:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By billyhill:
Any idea about barrel life? I like the idea of the 90 gr SMK @2750 fps. I am currently running that velocity with the 90s in a 30" Savage FTR 223 and it has been great out to 600 and that is as far as I can shoot locally.
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I asked the barrel life question of Ashbury I believe in one of their Facebook or Instagram posts and was told barrel life is comparable to .308. If it was 6.5 CM or .243-ish in life I wouldn’t even think about it but .308 area barrel life is something that would suit me just fine.  Of course, YMMV.
Link Posted: 1/30/2018 3:33:23 PM EDT
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FGMM brass is really soft! Had to stick a piece of Velcro to
the brass deflector so it wouldn’t dent the brass. I also would see
only 2-3 reloads until the primer pockets would open up.

Criterion is also doing 224 Valkyrie tubes.
Link Posted: 1/30/2018 4:44:53 PM EDT
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I'm not too worried about 2-3 firings. Semi-autos are hard on brass. I usually toss brass after 2-3 with even .223 out of a semi.

I am hoping to be able to buy just the brass though.
Link Posted: 2/1/2018 8:18:30 PM EDT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_awYW02Lhw

Anyone use starline brass or know if its any good?
Link Posted: 2/1/2018 10:57:58 PM EDT
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I just measured the COAL of 10 rounds of factory 90 SMK ammo. Average of 2.247" high:2.252" low 2.242". That seems way short considering ASC and PRI mags can be loaded to 2.310" reliably and modified PRI mags to 2.330".

I'm guessing we will see higher velocities once we start handloading.

I also have a 22" +2 gas on order.

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Link Posted: 2/1/2018 11:26:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lennyo3034:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_awYW02Lhw

Anyone use starline brass or know if its any good?
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I've been fairly happy with starline Creedmoor brass
Link Posted: 2/3/2018 11:16:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By azmp5:
**not to get to off topic but...  IS all Federal brass only good for 2-3 reloads?  reason i ask is cause I have been shooting mostly LC and FC brass in my 308 and i got about 8 reloads out of them before i started seeing neck splits.
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I don't use it at all.  Since it is 6.8 based, I'd look at SSA brass.  I use it for my 6.8 25DTI

Starline is another recommendation.
Link Posted: 2/7/2018 8:42:53 AM EDT
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Seems JP is backordered.

Seems like my next build. Unless it fizzles out
Link Posted: 2/7/2018 9:28:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By blcouch:
I asked the barrel life question of Ashbury I believe in one of their Facebook or Instagram posts and was told barrel life is comparable to .308. If it was 6.5 CM or .243-ish in life I wouldn’t even think about it but .308 area barrel life is something that would suit me just fine.  Of course, YMMV.
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Originally Posted By blcouch:
Originally Posted By billyhill:
Any idea about barrel life? I like the idea of the 90 gr SMK @2750 fps. I am currently running that velocity with the 90s in a 30" Savage FTR 223 and it has been great out to 600 and that is as far as I can shoot locally.
I asked the barrel life question of Ashbury I believe in one of their Facebook or Instagram posts and was told barrel life is comparable to .308. If it was 6.5 CM or .243-ish in life I wouldn’t even think about it but .308 area barrel life is something that would suit me just fine.  Of course, YMMV.
“Cheaper to Shoot? Maybe, But Consider Barrel Life…
Cost considerations might also drive some PRS shooters to the .224 Valkyrie. Quality .22-Cal bullets definitely cost less than match-grade 6.5 mm projectiles. Therefore, high-volume shooters may find the .224 Valkyrie more affordable to shoot. On the other hand, barrel life for the .224 Valkyrie will likely be shorter than with the 6.5 Creedmoor, so you may end up paying more in the long run. What you save on the cost of bullets you may have to invest in new barrels.”

(not sure how reputable this source is. Just found it on a google search.)

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2017/11/new-hot-rod-224-valkyrie-cartridge-from-federal/
Link Posted: 2/7/2018 10:57:28 AM EDT
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I think this will be my next build.

JP is backordered right now. But I will wait and hopefully the round takes off
Link Posted: 2/7/2018 2:59:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By donho00:
I think this will be my next build.

JP is backordered right now. But I will wait and hopefully the round takes off
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Several firearm makers have already announced plans to carry pieces chambered for this round, so I doubt it won't take off.  In fact, I can't remember any other round taking off this fast & widely other then perhaps the .300 AAC Blackout; which still took a long time if you count the 300 Whisper as it's origin.
Link Posted: 2/7/2018 4:26:50 PM EDT
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I hope so. It looks very promising.
Link Posted: 2/7/2018 10:28:31 PM EDT
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Sierra's website calls for a 1x6.5" twist barerl for the 90 gr SMK's.  All the barrel offerings I've come across are 1x7".
Link Posted: 2/7/2018 10:34:04 PM EDT
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I am pushing 90s out of à 1/7" at 2750fps without issue to 600yards. Some F class shooters are running them out to 1000 yards from long barrel 223s.
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 9:39:54 AM EDT
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Anyone offering custom twist barrels?
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 10:58:50 AM EDT
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Anyone offering custom twist barrels?
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Bartlien for sure. Any of the other cut rifling manufacturers should be able to. Button rifle companies need additional tooling to do it but doesn't mean it's not possible.

Then just send the blank to a smith to chamber and finish it.
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