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Posted: 7/15/2018 4:53:21 PM EDT

I understand the concept of 2 is one and it would most likely be best to not have all your eggs in one basket. It makes sense to keep some emergency stuff/supplies/cash outside of your house. Like for fires or a really off chance that you can't get back there for some reason. And when have land and live more in the boonies, it would be easy to stash a little box in a barn or similar.

but how do you do that if you live in the suburbs/city? there's no real public areas that aren't monitored or little more than lawns. The bank deposit box that you keep filled with precious metals and a pistol seems like a cool idea (out of Bourne Identity) but I don't know about the security or anonymity of that, and I feel like long term lockers at airports are not real.

I'm not looking to stash anything illegal or shady, but just maybe a pistol, PMs, back up keys or important documents, you know stuff you would have in a BOB but just having extras off site.

Assume work is totally not going to work as an option.

Posted: 7/15/2018 5:09:23 PM EDT

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In, for a worthy discussion.

Moving to a new area has cut off some of my options.

Posted: 7/15/2018 5:23:39 PM EDT

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@Rio762 my thoughts so far. Keep in mind that it's not widespread SHTF, but a personal one. Which means I can still get food and gasoline in a normal way.

Safe Deposit box: not overly expensive, but not big either. Not especially discreet, but guarded. not insured. More secure than average. May be subject to search, and can only access during business hours.

Storage center: more shady, less secure. not guarded probably, the ones I know about are in bad areas. Better option for all hours access for most of them, but more expensive. I would be hesitant to keep anything of real value there though, since I couldn't bolt a safe to the ground and bad guys would have time.

My daily Driver: makes sense for a rifle/pistol/some light supplies, but subject to break down/break in. Also can lose control during an accident. *(my wife was tboned, they took her straight to ER and car to a wrecker yard. I was honestly suprised when we went back the next day and her 38 still in the glove box. ) Although it means I can just grab keys and run out of the house, have 24 hours worth of stuff easy enough.

storage locker at airport: no idea if they are real, secure, or if I've ever actually seen one.

friends house: don't have anyone local that I would trust that much. all those people are 1500 miles away

nature: there isn't any here. It sucks all the time.

Posted: 7/15/2018 5:35:30 PM EDT

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Had a little experience with a storage unit. In fact, had a good deal of stuff there during my move. I think this might be the most do-able of the options, but with limits.

-The unit I was in was not accessible after 9 p.m. but I don't know if that's the norm.

-Key items can be surrounded with more mundane items, making them unlikely to be found.

-Items can be ballasted to prevent easy removal.

-Rats.

Posted: 7/15/2018 5:37:41 PM EDT

[#4]

I Don't Trust Banks to be open or available when I need them to be.
I have a safe at the office and a safe at my parents house as well as my house and the Bol. If I still lived in the big city I think I would have a storage locker that had 24 hour access.

Posted: 7/15/2018 5:42:03 PM EDT

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I looked, and the storage near me is $100/month. so an ounce of gold a year. seems like a good way to eat into any solid monies I would want to store.

Posted: 7/15/2018 6:10:49 PM EDT

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It's a bit out there, but a retail private mailbox store. Many will hold mail or packages for a while,
I'm sure you could make pre-arrangements with them to leave a package in your box
due to your traveling. (Didn't say you were traveling far away, just traveling.

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I don't know if I'd trust leaving a firearm there, but a small package for emergencies ( a bit of cash,
prepaid phone etc) not a big worry.

Many years ago there was a semi-homeless guy in an area I used to live that used "general delivery" mail
at the PO to cache some small items and cash.

Posted: 7/15/2018 7:20:55 PM EDT

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Pretty sure all the airport lockers went away after 911. IIRC they were all inside the secure area anyways and now days you are only getting in there with a boarding pass.

Posted: 7/16/2018 11:52:59 PM EDT

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I have a "the house burned down stash"

Sealed PVC pipe buried just in mulch between shrubs and the fence, far enough away from the house that it should be ok if the house goes.

Never know how little you may have in that kind of situation.

I know it is not as exciting sounding as EMP, Carrington Event, zombies, etc but it happens.

Posted: 7/17/2018 1:06:27 AM EDT

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Mine lives in an old outbuilding on my property. Its a full acre away from the house and has a nice hiding spot it the wall. I used a Pelican case to house a M&P Subcompact 9 a few mags, a light, a knife, some documents (also scanned onto a USB drive), and some cash as well as a hand full of pre 64 silver dollars. I hope I never need it, if that's all I have left things are bad.

Posted: 7/17/2018 1:28:25 AM EDT

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Remember banks close and dont open when hurricanes ect are coming or happened.

Posted: 7/17/2018 10:34:11 AM EDT

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Mine lives in an old outbuilding on my property. Its a full acre away from the house and has a nice hiding spot it the wall. I used a Pelican case to house a M&P Subcompact 9 a few mags, a light, a knife, some documents (also scanned onto a USB drive), and some cash as well as a hand full of pre 64 silver dollars. I hope I never need it, if that's all I have left things are bad.

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I do like that idea but don't have any good property here in the suburbs. Everything in my yard is less than 30 feet from my house

Posted: 7/17/2018 10:41:44 AM EDT

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sure, that's why I'm looking for other options as well.

Posted: 7/17/2018 6:03:52 PM EDT

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I too had a bit in storage in a shop I was renting to work on my car out of. It always made me feel a little better knowing I had some stuff put up there. I guess the idea of stashing at a relative's or friends place is next.

Posted: 7/17/2018 7:28:05 PM EDT

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What about leaving some stuff with a friend? That way if your place gets trashed or burns down, you don't have all of your eggs into one basket.

My friend has some of his ammo/mags at my place. I know it can be tough at times for those that don't live outside of an urban area. I've thought about a storage unit on the way to one of my BOL locations. I also worry about not having access to my items. If you use a storage unit...make sure you have bolt cutters as you may need to get through the chain linked fence if things really go south.

Posted: 7/18/2018 10:22:50 PM EDT

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I think a friend or relative might be your best bet.
Know/trust anyone enough to ask “hey, mind if I stow a couple Rubbermaid’s and Ammo cans in your basement?” Maybe mom and dad?
A few relatives and friends do so at my house-it’s also their BOL in times of trouble.
When I lived in the big city, I had a storage unit at the midpoint to my BOL. In addition to supplies I had a stash of documents and money.

Posted: 7/19/2018 5:17:20 AM EDT

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I think a friend or relative might be your best bet.
Know/trust anyone enough to ask “hey, mind if I stow a couple Rubbermaid’s and Ammo cans in your basement?” Maybe mom and dad?

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yeah that would be great. but my family and anyone I trust enough to leave that kind of stuff with lives literally 1500 miles away. we have the offer to live there and be fed indefinitely, but seems like it would be tough to get there in a pinch.

Posted: 7/19/2018 10:01:16 AM EDT

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I looked, and the storage near me is $100/month. so an ounce of gold a year. seems like a good way to eat into any solid monies I would want to store.

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You might look to a small town on your most likely escape route from your current location and I would think would get it below $50.My son has one for $35 in OK.
It still adds up but it makes a nice cache.

Posted: 7/21/2018 8:42:41 PM EDT

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I have a "the house burned down stash"

Sealed PVC pipe buried just in mulch between shrubs and the fence, far enough away from the house that it should be ok if the house goes.

Never know how little you may have in that kind of situation.

I know it is not as exciting sounding as EMP, Carrington Event, zombies, etc but it happens.

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Imagine just making out of your house with your family and nothing elsein the middle of the night.

Now imagine having a few hundred bucks, a credit card, and a set of car keys would mean right then.

Great post TX_M1. It is not the "cool for the photo preps" but probably one of the best bang for the buck preps..

@TX_M1

Posted: 7/22/2018 2:05:38 PM EDT

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Suspended ceiling in your work place?
Keep away from areas that maintenance has to check from time to time, like data lines and sprinkler heads.

Bring/leave a "gym bag" at work.

My cargo area looks cluttered but I can fold the rear seat forward and quickly access my unloaded Rem. 870 beater.

Posted: 7/22/2018 5:04:22 PM EDT

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Mine lives in an old outbuilding on my property. Its a full acre away from the house and has a nice hiding spot it the wall. I used a Pelican case to house a M&P Subcompact 9 a few mags, a light, a knife, some documents (also scanned onto a USB drive), and some cash as well as a hand full of pre 64 silver dollars. I hope I never need it, if that's all I have left things are bad.

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Make sure that you remove the batteries from your flashlight; I've had two that I left in hot areas (my vehicles) get ruined by leaking batteries. Now I store the batteries in empty pill bottles along with the flashlights. If they leak the light is still good, just need to find batteries.

One of my friends who's overseas right now has most of his stuff stored in a storage facility. He chose a unit relatively close to the office so it's a bit more secure and has cameras facing it. He moved his safe and some toolboxes in first then sank concrete anchors into the floor to bolt his stuff down. After that he moved his stuff in. He has a small bag of Redimix in there so that whenever he removes his stuff he can fill the holes.

Posted: 7/22/2018 7:12:25 PM EDT

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yeah that would be great. but my family and anyone I trust enough to leave that kind of stuff with lives literally 1500 miles away. we have the offer to live there and be fed indefinitely, but seems like it would be tough to get there in a pinch.

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In that case, the only non spendy option is burying a pvc tube in the yard.

May I suggest, though, trying to establish and maintain some trustworthy (or worthwhile or valuable?) relationships nearby? Via work or church or Arfcom. There’s tons of Texans on this site, I’m sure the Texas htf is rockin and rolling.

ETA: I’m not ragging on you-I’m an antisocial prick most of the time and if I can make friends anyone can.

Posted: 7/23/2018 10:52:56 AM EDT

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Suspended ceiling in your work place?
Keep away from areas that maintenance has to check from time to time, like data lines and sprinkler heads.

Bring/leave a "gym bag" at work.

My cargo area looks cluttered but I can fold the rear seat forward and quickly access my unloaded Rem. 870 beater.

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work doesn't work for legal issues as well as the total lack pf privacy, so that's why I'm leaning away from it. I do keep a couple of goodies in the car, and once my storage shelf design is done (hopefully this weekend) a beater AR and some prep stuff will live in it. I was worried about cash and the rest as it's more easily accessed than a safe or lock box or hidden.

Posted: 7/23/2018 10:54:46 AM EDT

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Imagine just making out of your house with your family and nothing elsein the middle of the night.

Now imagine having a few hundred bucks, a credit card, and a set of car keys would mean right then.

Great post TX_M1. It is not the "cool for the photo preps" but probably one of the best bang for the buck preps..

@TX_M1

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@Surf my bug out bag has been designed for that kind of event, not a zombie hike. My plan is everything I need for like 3 hours. so keys, bottle of water, reload for a carry gun and HD rifle, some money, some candy, diapers for the toddler, lights, matches. the goal of that is to get me to the truck, which would be good for 24 hours (eventually towards 3 days).

Posted: 7/23/2018 1:48:01 PM EDT

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If you use a storage unit...make sure you have bolt cutters as you may need to get through the chain linked fence if things really go south.

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Always a good idea. Essential item in a variety of situations to get you in, or out.

Posted: 7/23/2018 1:52:38 PM EDT

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I have a "the house burned down stash"

Sealed PVC pipe buried just in mulch between shrubs and the fence, far enough away from the house that it should be ok if the house goes.

Never know how little you may have in that kind of situation.

I know it is not as exciting sounding as EMP, Carrington Event, zombies, etc but it happens.

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I like that idea a lot.

Posted: 7/23/2018 4:30:00 PM EDT

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In my geocaching days I was able to hide containers in many environments in plain sight, such that nobody would give them a second look.

Had a fake electrical box strapped to a utility pole in the library parking lot. It had a fake curly cell phone antenna on top and a small padlock.

Small metal container held by a magnet to the underside of a handrail on a bridge (wasn't a normal pedestrian bridge but nothing unusual if one were to wander out there).

Had a newspaper box with a padlock on the street in the heart of downtown Seattle.

There is a type called a multi-cache, where one container only gives you the info or tools (such as a key) to the next. Combine that with something only you know and there are possibilities. Keys are easily hidden with magnets (rare earth type, never those stupid key boxes). Don't stash anything you cannot afford to lose though. For a storage unit, you can stash several keys in disparate urban areas, such that the loss of any key doesn't handicap you. Anyone finding the key would have no idea what it goes to (something only you know). Then, even if getting home to get the key isn't an option, you are still in business. There are many storage places with decent security, like a pass-code to get in the gate, and many are open 24/7, at least around here.

Posted: 7/23/2018 7:37:41 PM EDT

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I understand the concept of 2 is one and it would most likely be best to not have all your eggs in one basket. It makes sense to keep some emergency stuff/supplies/cash outside of your house. Like for fires or a really off chance that you can't get back there for some reason. And when have land and live more in the boonies, it would be easy to stash a little box in a barn or similar.

but how do you do that if you live in the suburbs/city? there's no real public areas that aren't monitored or little more than lawns. The bank deposit box that you keep filled with precious metals and a pistol seems like a cool idea (out of Bourne Identity) but I don't know about the security or anonymity of that, and I feel like long term lockers at airports are not real.

I'm not looking to stash anything illegal or shady, but just maybe a pistol, PMs, back up keys or important documents, you know stuff you would have in a BOB but just having extras off site.

Assume work is totally not going to work as an option.

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I recently found out at my bank that I qualify for a free medium safety deposit box and if I had to pay for it, it would be $40 a year. The big ones are $60 a year. pretty cheap IMHO.
When the bank is open, I can walk right into the outer vault area without an escort, open the box door and slide out the inner liner with my stuff inside, walk out of there and into a private room that is next door. I can lock that door and make deposits or remove items from the liner and return it to the vault. There is not a camera that I could find in that room. I spent 15 minutes looking for one.

The bank lady said I could put anything I wanted inside, including cash, bonds, will, jewelry, etc. she didn't specifically say guns.

I also have stuff outside of my home, but on my property.

Posted: 7/24/2018 7:46:49 AM EDT

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Several years back a high school friend and fellow veteran was killed in an auto crash.
He was cremated and his ashes were buried at sea..
He has the standard veterans placard at his family grave site.
He was an only child and never had kids so I take care of his grave.
The placard is in cement and the whole thing weighs about 80 pounds.
It is surrounded by and sits upon pea stone..
Buried in the pea stone is an ammo can...
You get the picture.

Posted: 7/27/2018 6:53:47 PM EDT

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@Surf my bug out bag has been designed for that kind of event, not a zombie hike. My plan is everything I need for like 3 hours. so keys, bottle of water, reload for a carry gun and HD rifle, some money, some candy, diapers for the toddler, lights, matches. the goal of that is to get me to the truck, which would be good for 24 hours (eventually towards 3 days).

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Bury a 4” pvc pipe in your yard and disguise it as a sewer clean out.

You could put everything you listed in one.

If you ran out of your house at 2am due to a fire, you could have some cash, keys, credit, card, and important documents saved to a thumb drive.

And for those that claim they would never leave those kind of items outside, I’m willing to bet you have several hundreds in stuff just laying around outside just waiting for someone to help themselves. Everyone has plenty of personal info stored in their car, and a credit card would be covered by fraud protection.

Put a plug under the clean out cap and dress it up with grease and dirt. What thief is going to put their hand into a nasty sewer line looking for a few bucks?

I just might have a new project for this weekend.

Posted: 7/27/2018 8:54:31 PM EDT

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1. Go to local bowling alley.
2. Join a league or bowl regularly.
3. Rent locker at bowling lanes.

Just a thought.

Posted: 8/13/2018 4:45:34 PM EDT

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1. Go to local bowling alley.
2. Join a league or bowl regularly.
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Or at a gym....

Posted: 8/14/2018 11:53:43 AM EDT

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I kept an old shotgun in my "shop/shed" for a few years but eventually I got sick of tending to the onset of rust. I live in a very wet/ humid area. Also snow and ice during the winter months. I have thought long and hard about a nice large PVC tube for the essentials but just can't bring myself to test it out. I have a brand new Rossi matched pair 22/20GA that would be perfect for such a CACH but am not sure I want to risk sacrificing it.

Gun ammo, knife, multi tool, EDC type stuff is all I would have any interest in storing in an outdoor CACH.

Posted: 8/14/2018 7:43:20 PM EDT

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I kept an old shotgun in my "shop/shed" for a few years but eventually I got sick of tending to the onset of rust. I live in a very wet/ humid area. Also snow and ice during the winter months. I have thought long and hard about a nice large PVC tube for the essentials but just can't bring myself to test it out. I have a brand new Rossi matched pair 22/20GA that would be perfect for such a CACH but am not sure I want to risk sacrificing it.

Gun ammo, knife, multi tool, EDC type stuff is all I would have any interest in storing in an outdoor CACH.

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do it. you can vacuum pack a rifle and your other stuff.

Posted: 8/14/2018 7:57:04 PM EDT

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I finished up my SUV storage area, so now just have to stock it. Going to do old sneakers/boots in case I need to walk somewhere and I"m in dress shoes, and water's back there, too. Have an AR pistol, light, etc, with some extra ammo in the truck as well. will probably cover it with fabric so it looks a bit more authentic, but so far it's working great!

Posted: 8/16/2018 9:26:29 PM EDT

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PVC container in the back yard, another in a convenient state park/preserve/whatever. Preferably something purchased f2f with no paper trail to you just in case....

Posted: 8/17/2018 7:42:43 AM EDT

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At least around here, the storage unit places close the gate at a certain time, but you can still walk in. It might suck to hoof your gear out to your truck, but it's doable.

Many of them also allow RVs and regular vehicles to be parked. Maybe buy a broken mini-van and store it with a hidden cache. Like one used for deliveries that doesn't have all the windows.

Posted: 8/17/2018 4:19:49 PM EDT

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In my geocaching days I was able to hide containers in many environments in plain sight, such that nobody would give them a second look.

Had a fake electrical box strapped to a utility pole in the library parking lot. It had a fake curly cell phone antenna on top and a small padlock.

Small metal container held by a magnet to the underside of a handrail on a bridge (wasn't a normal pedestrian bridge but nothing unusual if one were to wander out there).

Had a newspaper box with a padlock on the street in the heart of downtown Seattle.

There is a type called a multi-cache, where one container only gives you the info or tools (such as a key) to the next. Combine that with something only you know and there are possibilities. Keys are easily hidden with magnets (rare earth type, never those stupid key boxes). Don't stash anything you cannot afford to lose though. For a storage unit, you can stash several keys in disparate urban areas, such that the loss of any key doesn't handicap you. Anyone finding the key would have no idea what it goes to (something only you know). Then, even if getting home to get the key isn't an option, you are still in business. There are many storage places with decent security, like a pass-code to get in the gate, and many are open 24/7, at least around here.

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Was handing with a friend who called the sheriff out for suspicious behavior near a bridge near his house. I rolled with him to meet the deputy. He described to the deputy what he thought looked like a narcotics drop earlier in the day. So we stand by as the deputy searches the area and finds a large pill bottle covered with camo duct tape and a magnet on it behind the guardrail.

Deputy puts on his nitrile gloves to open it, and there's a slip of paper inside with odd names, look like a bunch of avatar/screennames. I look at it and laugh, and say its a Geo-cache as I used to do it with friends.

I get only blank stares in return.

After 2 minutes of explaining Geo-caching the deputy looks dejected and starts writing his incident report.

Posted: 8/17/2018 4:23:16 PM EDT

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At least around here, the storage unit places close the gate at a certain time, but you can still walk in. It might suck to hoof your gear out to your truck, but it's doable.

Many of them also allow RVs and regular vehicles to be parked. Maybe buy a broken mini-van and store it with a hidden cache. Like one used for deliveries that doesn't have all the windows.

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They might require up to date registration and insurance proof to prevent dumping, and to cover their losses if your vehicle catches on fire.

Posted: 8/17/2018 4:26:39 PM EDT

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I kept an old shotgun in my "shop/shed" for a few years but eventually I got sick of tending to the onset of rust. I live in a very wet/ humid area. Also snow and ice during the winter months. I have thought long and hard about a nice large PVC tube for the essentials but just can't bring myself to test it out. I have a brand new Rossi matched pair 22/20GA that would be perfect for such a CACH but am not sure I want to risk sacrificing it.

Gun ammo, knife, multi tool, EDC type stuff is all I would have any interest in storing in an outdoor CACH.

do it. you can vacuum pack a rifle and your other stuff.

I recall a thread a few years back where someone dug up a buried 6" PVC tube with caps glued on and had some long guns in there for 10 years They were all quite rusted due to the off-gassing of the PVC glue.

Posted: 8/17/2018 7:38:05 PM EDT

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I kept an old shotgun in my "shop/shed" for a few years but eventually I got sick of tending to the onset of rust. I live in a very wet/ humid area. Also snow and ice during the winter months. I have thought long and hard about a nice large PVC tube for the essentials but just can't bring myself to test it out. I have a brand new Rossi matched pair 22/20GA that would be perfect for such a CACH but am not sure I want to risk sacrificing it.

Gun ammo, knife, multi tool, EDC type stuff is all I would have any interest in storing in an outdoor CACH.

do it. you can vacuum pack a rifle and your other stuff.

I recall a thread a few years back where someone dug up a buried 6" PVC tube with caps glued on and had some long guns in there for 10 years They were all quite rusted due to the off-gassing of the PVC glue.

interesting.

Posted: 8/17/2018 8:48:24 PM EDT

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Gamma seal lid on a 5 gallon bucket with a small amount of silicon sealant on the threads, contents in a water proof kayaking bag and individually wrapped. Placed under something in the yard like a bird bath, hose reel etc.

Caches designed to be left for a very long time should have nothing in them that would go bad so for those no medications, no batteries, etc.

Caches that have stuff that goes bad should be emplaced in an area that retrieval for restocking wouldn't necessarily draw attention.

In other words the more important stuff should be placed in the caches that require the least maintenance so you lessen the chance of ruining something in there and the chance someone will discover it or know its location when you go to check on it.

Make sure if family knows about it you have a simple clandestine way to notify others they took the cache.

Hiding in plain sight is a good way to go, you are only limited by imagination and the size of what you are trying to hide.

Posted: 8/18/2018 4:51:54 AM EDT

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I kept an old shotgun in my "shop/shed" for a few years but eventually I got sick of tending to the onset of rust. I live in a very wet/ humid area. Also snow and ice during the winter months. I have thought long and hard about a nice large PVC tube for the essentials but just can't bring myself to test it out. I have a brand new Rossi matched pair 22/20GA that would be perfect for such a CACH but am not sure I want to risk sacrificing it.

Gun ammo, knife, multi tool, EDC type stuff is all I would have any interest in storing in an outdoor CACH.

do it. you can vacuum pack a rifle and your other stuff.

I recall a thread a few years back where someone dug up a buried 6" PVC tube with caps glued on and had some long guns in there for 10 years They were all quite rusted due to the off-gassing of the PVC glue.

I've seen a couple of threads here over the years that looked great when they were dug up. I'll try to remember to look them up tomorrow, it's getting late.

Posted: 8/18/2018 8:26:08 AM EDT

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At least around here, the storage unit places close the gate at a certain time, but you can still walk in. It might suck to hoof your gear out to your truck, but it's doable.

Many of them also allow RVs and regular vehicles to be parked. Maybe buy a broken mini-van and store it with a hidden cache. Like one used for deliveries that doesn't have all the windows.

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Ours has a key pad and open 24/7. Our Boy Scout troop keeps there enclosed trailer parked there with all there gear in it ready to go for trips which isn't a bad way to go.

Posted: 8/19/2018 10:18:19 AM EDT

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Ours has a key pad and open 24/7. Our Boy Scout troop keeps there enclosed trailer parked there with all there gear in it ready to go for trips which isn't a bad way to go.

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To all, practice good OPSEC and ensure to pull forward just enough to let the gate close behind you, even if someone is in line behind you. If they get pissed off, let them stew. Its in their best interest also.

Posted: 8/22/2018 11:13:58 PM EDT

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Do you have trusted friends or family members that would host a remote safe for you?

Personally I have weapons in several states with trusted friends and family. Additionally I have things locally.

My thoughts and strategy is that I am rarely more than 100 yards from my Jeep. I store about 100 pounds of survival gear in the Jeep at all times. Since I work for the federal government inside a fenced compound patrolled by armed guards I can't legally keep firearms in the Jeep. If caught I would lose my security clearance and job in pretty short order. I can park outside and walk into work and the guards know what's going on and watch the Jeep for me.

I keep my get home bag in Jeep along with large amounts of food, water, and first aid equipment and a get home bag (4 miles and 11 miles from my two jobs).

So the only things I have stashed are firearms and ammo. California is blessed with massive amounts of public lands and that's where I plant my gardens. Some within walking distance of my home and others distance from the house in the two primary evacuation directions from my home. Inside the Jeep I have a shovel as part of my recovery gear along with lengths of rope. The rope is used to find the X that marks the spot. I know where fixed immovable rock formations are and using the rope and those formations I find the spot in the desert to start digging.

At home I have my INCH bags and large Tupperware boxes with dozens of meals and changes of clothing. There are Jerry cans with fuel and water at the ready too. I keep a small amount of spending cash and silver in the safe.

Posted: 8/23/2018 9:23:00 AM EDT

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Do you have trusted friends or family members that would host a remote safe for you?

Personally I have weapons in several states with trusted friends and family. Additionally I have things locally.

My thoughts and strategy is that I am rarely more than 100 yards from my Jeep. I store about 100 pounds of survival gear in the Jeep at all times. Since I work for the federal government inside a fenced compound patrolled by armed guards I can't legally keep firearms in the Jeep. If caught I would lose my security clearance and job in pretty short order. I can park outside and walk into work and the guards know what's going on and watch the Jeep for me.

I keep my get home bag in Jeep along with large amounts of food, water, and first aid equipment and a get home bag (4 miles and 11 miles from my two jobs).

So the only things I have stashed are firearms and ammo. California is blessed with massive amounts of public lands and that's where I plant my gardens. Some within walking distance of my home and others distance from the house in the two primary evacuation directions from my home. Inside the Jeep I have a shovel as part of my recovery gear along with lengths of rope. The rope is used to find the X that marks the spot. I know where fixed immovable rock formations are and using the rope and those formations I find the spot in the desert to start digging.

At home I have my INCH bags and large Tupperware boxes with dozens of meals and changes of clothing. There are Jerry cans with fuel and water at the ready too. I keep a small amount of spending cash and silver in the safe.

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I like the way you think!!

Posted: 8/25/2018 12:54:51 AM EDT

[#47]

In an urban areas, a spare wallet with some cash, a debit/credit card, photo ID, etc would get you through a lot. Add a phone, light, knife, battery phone charger, etc, if you have the space.

Keeping stuff in a car is fine, as long as you don't go nuts and keep $10k in irreplaceable/dangerous things to be stolen.

Posted: 8/25/2018 10:55:01 AM EDT

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I hid non-firearm weapons and a few small items and cash in both of my parents homes. They are located in a wall.

Both of those homes have been sold. The contents will never be found unless someone does a remodel.

I guess I cant retrieve it without contacting the new owners or a CoC violation but thats an option as a cache if you think about it.

the same concept could be implemented in friends and families homes or apt rentals and nobody has to know you put anything in their house as long as what you put there is legal and non-identifiable.

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