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Posted: 1/5/2018 8:48:36 PM EDT
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Thank you for the very valuable information. It is much appreciated.
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Posted: 1/5/2018 8:56:56 PM EDT
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If there’s an end of the world scenario where everyone is getting shot in daylight, why would my home specifically be targeted in the same fashion as the others you’ve mentioned?
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Posted: 1/5/2018 9:00:20 PM EDT
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Live in the woods and know your neighbors. They should be of like mind.
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Posted: 1/5/2018 9:02:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/5/2018 9:04:26 PM EDT
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Also, airsift NVD’s and a $200 thermal are not items I’m going to be trusting my life to. Clamping your rifle to the handlebars is quite possibly the worst idea you’ve listed, which is a hard choice because you’ve provided many. If you need the rifle, you better hope the target is willing to stand in the exact path of the muzzle of your clamped on defensive weapon.
Why not just carry the rifle on a sling??? |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 9:06:00 PM EDT
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I like to learn others battle plans. What rifle, op?
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Posted: 1/5/2018 9:23:56 PM EDT
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This is a joke thread...right?
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Posted: 1/5/2018 9:26:16 PM EDT
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This is a joke thread...right? |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 9:32:12 PM EDT
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Gunkid -- is that you?
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Posted: 1/5/2018 10:10:24 PM EDT
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Gunkid -- is that you? Assault wheelbarrow!!! |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 11:05:48 PM EDT
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Gunkid -- is that you? |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 11:20:00 PM EDT
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My brother has a lady friend in Puerto Rico. She says that the shed that stored a LOT of her emergency preps ended up in her neighbor's yard.. and he ain't returning it.
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Posted: 1/5/2018 11:21:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/5/2018 11:23:39 PM EDT
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Just ask the Branch Davidians, the MOVE group in Philidelphia, and Randy Weaver if our govt will set your place on fire, gas you and then shoot you when you emerge! The jbts will be the first to "seize" (ie, steal) your stuff, if shtf. Your stuff needs to be buried for shtf, in drums, set up and accessed only at nigh, showing no light and leaving no "sign" . Buried food, pre-shtf, is a real problem, tho, cause canines, rats, bears, etc, will reveal the presence of the containers to humans, who will definitely steal your stuff, immediately. So bury the empty drums/buckets in the woods closest to your rental storage unit.. Keep your long term food in the unit, not far from your AO or your BOL, and move the stuff from the unit to the drums the night of shtf, walking along side of a bicycle, using wirecutters on the fence of the storage unit, the bags of stuff being on the bike, not on you, with the front wheel strapped in alignment with the frame, so that you need not steer it constantly. Depending upon the terrain, you can move over 100 lbs of gear at at a time with such a setup. Clamp your rifle on the handlebars, of course. You need night vision and luminous gun sights in the worst way. You can get passive IR monocular, which shows you animals and people, for sub $200. You can get a kid's airsoft NVD, which suffices to show you where you're walking, for even less money. If shtf, to be out and about in daylight will get you shot-at, without a doubt, within a very few days. You would be crazy to risk it. Where do I look for one? |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 11:25:07 PM EDT
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I'm gonna need a big back hoe tomorrow it's 12 below here
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Posted: 1/5/2018 11:26:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Snip.... I called it a few posts above yours and it was frowned upon. |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 11:26:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/5/2018 11:43:49 PM EDT
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Hey guys.
This is a tech section. Please keep your posts on topic. |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 11:46:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like to learn others battle plans. What rifle, op? |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 11:55:16 PM EDT
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Nope nope nope. The only thing more commonly burglarized then a car is a storage unit. They are hit something like 3x more then homes and twice that of cars.
Two things the go for is PII and camping equipment. If you put your stores in a storage unit it won't last a week in the bad/ cheap ones and maybe a few months in the more expensive ones. They either cut and switch locks and unload at their convenience or the roll through and hit several units in a night. Either way your shit is gone. |
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Posted: 1/6/2018 12:30:38 AM EDT
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So you're saying to rent a storage unit and then dig a hole and bury your stuff away from your storage unit?
Do you have links to the equipment you are recommending? |
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Posted: 1/6/2018 12:47:16 AM EDT
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Umm, what?
Put down the fiction novels, relax for a few, have a drink if you are into that. You need a serious chill pill and to think these things through, and research actual events to help you in your research. In short: Your plan sounds good in a post apocalyptic pulp fiction book, but not reality. |
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Posted: 1/6/2018 12:55:05 AM EDT
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If there’s an end of the world scenario where everyone is getting shot in daylight, why would my home specifically be targeted in the same fashion as the others you’ve mentioned? |
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Posted: 1/6/2018 12:56:01 AM EDT
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Live in the woods and know your neighbors. They should be of like mind. |
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Posted: 1/6/2018 12:58:01 AM EDT
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Also, airsift NVD’s and a $200 thermal are not items I’m going to be trusting my life to. Clamping your rifle to the handlebars is quite possibly the worst idea you’ve listed, which is a hard choice because you’ve provided many. If you need the rifle, you better hope the target is willing to stand in the exact path of the muzzle of your clamped on defensive weapon. Why not just carry the rifle on a sling??? |
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Posted: 1/6/2018 12:58:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like to learn others battle plans. What rifle, op? |
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Posted: 1/6/2018 12:59:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interested in the ---You can get passive IR monocular, which shows you animals and people, for sub $200. Where do I look for one? |
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Posted: 1/6/2018 1:01:13 AM EDT
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So you're saying to rent a storage unit and then dig a hole and bury your stuff away from your storage unit? Do you have links to the equipment you are recommending? |
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Posted: 1/6/2018 1:03:09 AM EDT
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Nope nope nope. The only thing more commonly burglarized then a car is a storage unit. They are hit something like 3x more then homes and twice that of cars. Two things the go for is PII and camping equipment. If you put your stores in a storage unit it won't last a week in the bad/ cheap ones and maybe a few months in the more expensive ones. They either cut and switch locks and unload at their convenience or the roll through and hit several units in a night. Either way your shit is gone. |
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Posted: 1/6/2018 1:04:59 AM EDT
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Sounds like a lot of work.
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Posted: 1/6/2018 1:14:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What equipment have I recommended? you can't find a bicycle, storage unit or empty drums? Quote HistoryQuoted: What equipment have I recommended? you can't find a bicycle, storage unit or empty drums? Quoted: You need night vision and luminous gun sights in the worst way. You can get passive IR monocular, which shows you animals and people, for sub $200. You can get a kid's airsoft NVD, which suffices to show you where you're walking, for even less money. |
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Posted: 1/6/2018 10:51:11 AM EDT
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Edited for the sake of the thread
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Posted: 1/6/2018 11:01:03 AM EDT
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The desire to turn this thread into something useful is there among all of us regulars, but I think it's doomed.
-buddy got the thermal add-on for iphone (don't believe flir brand) for around $200. Not much clarity, but has some very limited use -wealth allows you to store things in many places. You could use a unit, but it's a money drain. That was my attempt. |
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Posted: 1/6/2018 12:39:13 PM EDT
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Gunkid comments aside, the premise of not keeping all your eggs in one basket is a good one, but everyone's situations are different.
Most locations in the Southeast would be impossible to "bury" food or even leave in a non-climate-controlled storage facility. Your house IS your number one primary survival location, but at some point you have to acknowledge that no place is 100% secure or immune from becoming a total loss. I used a few friends and relatives to store some 5-gallon buckets along a travel route when I lived in Texas. It's never ideal, but is far more secure with better climate control. The amount of stable food you'll be able to store buried or "unsecured" is really limited, unless you have a climate-controlled bugout cabin or a dedicated basement/room at your family farm. We have insurance for current SHTF scenarios such as fire, floods, etc., but once the SHTF beyond your region and at a national level, you do need to consider how to spread out your resources, but if you plan on burying, I would expect as high as a 30-40% loss due to exposure to water, excessive heat, critter damage, etc. That's not necessarily a good investment or a good way to diversify your storage plans... ROCK6 |
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Posted: 1/6/2018 12:39:20 PM EDT
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Keep your long term food in the unit, not far from your AO or your BOL, and move the stuff from the unit to the drums the night of shtf, <snip stupid> to be out and about in daylight will get you shot-at, without a doubt, within a very few days. You would be crazy to risk it. 
you have a alarm set for that? so your saying intentionally store supplies that you have to move to get them, but rely on airsoft junk to move at night because no one else has therm/NVGs? this is retarded and makes no sense.
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Posted: 1/6/2018 12:50:04 PM EDT
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Edited for the sake of the thread 
To this this thread open: I actually agree that for those who can afford it, in some locations, a storage unit could be a useful part of preps. The old "2 is 1 and 1 is none logic." I'm actually more worried about fire than the feds. |
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Posted: 1/6/2018 1:10:45 PM EDT
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Look the guy just got a bunch of 80's era books from Paladin Press and he's a bit paranoid right now.
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Posted: 1/6/2018 7:00:28 PM EDT
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It's like 1998 all over again. We have moved from a wheelbarrow to a bicycle as a means of transport. A smart upgrade in my view.
To this this thread open: I actually agree that for those who can afford it, in some locations, a storage unit could be a useful part of preps. The old "2 is 1 and 1 is none logic." I'm actually more worried about fire than the feds. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Edited for the sake of the thread
To this this thread open: I actually agree that for those who can afford it, in some locations, a storage unit could be a useful part of preps. The old "2 is 1 and 1 is none logic." I'm actually more worried about fire than the feds. Guess who I got a letter from? Yup you guessed it! Made no sense then just as he doesn't now! Spouted on about the virtues of the SKS, etc.... I have the letter saved somewhere... If I find it I will scan and maybe post (not in SD of course) |
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Posted: 1/6/2018 9:12:10 PM EDT
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I was a Mod at another site and this sounds just like Gunkid. I had to deal with him several times.
I thought by court order you had to stay off the net? |
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Posted: 1/6/2018 11:39:14 PM EDT
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"Your the worst character ever Towlie..."
"I know...." |
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Posted: 1/6/2018 11:45:34 PM EDT
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I doubt anyone is going to take OP's advice.
Some serious fantasy going on with OP. My present concern is how cold it's been in my AO. Would be tough to dig up gear in this freezing weather. I don't want to exert the energy to doing so, and if I wait til it gets warmer, my family may starve to death. What would OP do? ETA: Are you trying to set the world record for 10,000 posts in a month? |
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Posted: 1/7/2018 12:11:15 AM EDT
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John, I thought the USMS told you to stop with this shit.
You must secretly enjoy the surveillance and the raids. |
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Posted: 1/7/2018 12:20:22 AM EDT
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You think the storage place is going to let you in during SHTF??? You don't think think the FSA is going to hit KNOWN storage first?? It's free. Most of my preps stay with me. I have alternate land to bug out to, also. Three other "like-minded" families, with other assets are also part of the plan.
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Posted: 1/7/2018 12:24:20 AM EDT
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tech. I'll go sit in the corner
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Posted: 1/7/2018 12:55:43 AM EDT
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Guys.. he's been banned already... but enjoy the thread anyway.
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Posted: 1/7/2018 1:37:08 AM EDT
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Guys.. he's been banned already... but enjoy the thread anyway. 
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Posted: 1/7/2018 6:42:27 AM EDT
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But he can still look at the thread Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Guys.. he's been banned already... but enjoy the thread anyway.
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Posted: 1/7/2018 6:45:16 AM EDT
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This is a joke thread...right? |
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Posted: 1/7/2018 6:54:09 AM EDT
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Look the guy just got a bunch of 80's era books from Paladin Press and he's a bit paranoid right now. |
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Posted: 1/7/2018 10:18:31 AM EDT
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I know a guy who lived in a storage unit for a year. I have tried to get his story to post, but he's not really a talker.
He drove a van inside the unit and lived inside. He made sure his unit had an outlet during initial recon. Was a bear in the Summer when the temps rose and he mentioned that cooking smells had to be minimized. You can indeed store stuff there, but when the power goes out, the gate isn't opening. The staff prob isn't going to work during a bad enough incident. Unless it's a trailer or containerized, you don't want to leave your primary residence to retrieve stuff in unrest. As always, it's situational. |
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