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Posted: 2/10/2021 12:14:41 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/10/2021 12:14:43 AM EDT
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Hmmm...
I like to stockpile a good year or two's worth of oil, filters, and auto chems for the vehicles. I also like to keep a decent supply of wood.. 2x4's, nails and screws. Batteries and fuel. Extra heat (if you live in the north, something that runs on kerosene is a good idea).. whole home generator.. If you are the handy sort, and can actually use it, good tools for wood and metal.. Welder, saws, and a good air compressor. Being able to fix and repair instead of having to buy new... |
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Posted: 2/10/2021 12:17:01 AM EDT
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Honestly, pms, bullets, trucks, washing machines, land, even equities...
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Posted: 2/10/2021 12:37:06 AM EDT
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I've been thinking PMs and land in TX incase they secede.
I may get a new truck. Would like something easy to convert to cash not sure how easy it will be sell a gold eagle when I need to. |
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Posted: 2/10/2021 1:58:55 AM EDT
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Buy realestate with a 30 year low interest rate loan.
Pay it back with inflated dollars. |
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Posted: 2/10/2021 7:14:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Would like something easy to convert to cash not sure how easy it will be sell a gold eagle when I need to. If that is a concern, buy 1/2, 1/4 or 1/10 eagles and add silver. |
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Posted: 2/10/2021 9:03:45 AM EDT
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Quoted: I think we all know inflation is a never ending issue but with the rapid expansion of the money supply I don't see any way prices won't rise in the near future. So......what stuff would you buy NOW to head off future possible price rises? I know food is always a concern but realistically, we are all going to pay the price when we go to buy food. I'm thinking more like durable goods, tools, home repair, appliances....things like that. Thoughts? Debt nearly killed me after shit went sideways in SA. You can live off very little if you don't have a mortgage or car nite. Now you add utilities and food on top of debt and you are hosed when your money is near worthless. So finding ways to minimize your dependence on utility companies and no debt gets my vote. Well, solar power, large propane tank...those kind of things. |
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Posted: 2/10/2021 10:05:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In all honesty? Debt. I'm not buying a damn thing...just nuking debt where I can. Debt nearly killed me after shit went sideways in SA. You can live off very little if you don't have a mortgage or car nite. Now you add utilities and food on top of debt and you are hosed when your money is near worthless. So finding ways to minimize your dependence on utility companies and no debt gets my vote. Well, solar power, large propane tank...those kind of things. I’m not a fan of debt myself so I agree with you. I’m more thinking of what to buy with cash NOW to save on having to spend extra later. That assumes you have some discretionary cash to spend over the next few months. |
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Posted: 2/10/2021 11:12:43 AM EDT
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Bitcoin. It cannot be manipulated like a centralized banking note and is expressly designed to be deflationary rather than inflationary. Diversify your assets.
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Posted: 2/10/2021 11:29:11 AM EDT
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staples: TP, soap, laundry detergent, shampoo, toothpaste, cleaning supplies, etc. all this stuff never goes bad, you always need it and it only gets more expensive.
backups: light bulbs, batteries, oil, etc. sooner or later whatever you have will break, it won't be repairable cuz progress (/sarc) and you'll need a spare. that spare may not be available or may be expensive as fuck. books. yes, books. The internet needs electricity, both of which need first wold conditions to function reliably. you may have noticed we are rapidly becoming a 3rd world nation. (yeah diversity). books are good forever. lots of stuff is going out of print and that knowledge will simply disappear. how to books, history (that can't be changed..................), resource books, etc. way underrated IMO and highly valuable. |
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Posted: 2/10/2021 11:29:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In all honesty? Debt. I'm not buying a damn thing...just nuking debt where I can. Debt nearly killed me after shit went sideways in SA. You can live off very little if you don't have a mortgage or car nite. Now you add utilities and food on top of debt and you are hosed when your money is near worthless. So finding ways to minimize your dependence on utility companies and no debt gets my vote. Well, solar power, large propane tank...those kind of things. Yep. Debt is what most people overlook. And outside of this BS fantasy that "when TSHTF all my debt will be wiped away" non sense, there is no reason to carry a ton of debt now a days. We skrimped and lived off rice and beans for a few years getting completely out of debt back in 2008 and have never looked back. Being debt free equals having the initiative. A poster above mentioned "having land in TX in case they secede". Might have been meant as a joke, might not have been. But what if? What if 3-7 states declare they are done with this socialist BS and break away? Can you move or are you stuck upside down in a McMansion in suburbia? Could you buy land there while your place is on the market in the old place? What about simple job loss? I was told it was foolish to have six months of food cause "no one loses their job for that long" by some internet expert here back in 2007'ish. Then the market economy and all you heard was stories of people losing jobs and not being able to find equivalent income for a year or more. |
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Posted: 2/10/2021 11:33:36 AM EDT
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I like having an assload of seasoned firewood around. I've gotten off track the last couple years with propane being relatively cheap. I should get another semi load of cull ties to cut and split.
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Posted: 2/10/2021 11:47:54 AM EDT
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I think stocks/mutual funds. Companies value will increase with inflation as they are selling more stuff for more money.
Doesn’t keep you safe for a full on crash, but almost every fund I hold is doing better now than it was in March of 2020 |
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Posted: 2/10/2021 2:17:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Snip. A poster above mentioned "having land in TX in case they secede". Might have been meant as a joke, might not have been. But what if? What if 3-7 states declare they are done with this socialist BS and break away? Can you move or are you stuck upside down in a McMansion in suburbia? Could you buy land there while your place is on the market in the old place? Snip. Not joking. Trying to find a second home or a peace of land there now. Will start taking mini vacations there to get known in the area and not a stranger. But holy hell property has gone up there. |
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Posted: 2/10/2021 4:06:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: staples: TP, soap, laundry detergent, shampoo, toothpaste, cleaning supplies, etc. all this stuff never goes bad, you always need it and it only gets more expensive. backups: light bulbs, batteries, oil, etc. sooner or later whatever you have will break, it won't be repairable cuz progress (/sarc) and you'll need a spare. that spare may not be available or may be expensive as fuck. books. yes, books. The internet needs electricity, both of which need first wold conditions to function reliably. you may have noticed we are rapidly becoming a 3rd world nation. (yeah diversity). books are good forever. lots of stuff is going out of print and that knowledge will simply disappear. how to books, history (that can't be changed..................), resource books, etc. way underrated IMO and highly valuable. All this. There's going to be a lot of people choosing between basic hygiene items and food. Don't be one of them. |
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Posted: 2/10/2021 4:16:33 PM EDT
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Existing debt is my biggest concern.
Are you going to be able to make you mortgage and car payment when your monthly grocery bill triples? It's never a bad idea to stock up on staples: Paper goods, lightbulbs, filters, etc. |
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Posted: 2/10/2021 6:00:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: staples: TP, soap, laundry detergent, shampoo, toothpaste, cleaning supplies, etc. all this stuff never goes bad, you always need it and it only gets more expensive. backups: light bulbs, batteries, oil, etc. sooner or later whatever you have will break, it won't be repairable cuz progress (/sarc) and you'll need a spare. that spare may not be available or may be expensive as fuck. books. yes, books. The internet needs electricity, both of which need first wold conditions to function reliably. you may have noticed we are rapidly becoming a 3rd world nation. (yeah diversity). books are good forever. lots of stuff is going out of print and that knowledge will simply disappear. how to books, history (that can't be changed..................), resource books, etc. way underrated IMO and highly valuable. Good post and good food for thought. I'm also thinking more NATO cans, more tools, 5 gallon buckets of oil, another 500 gallon propane tank.....things like that. |
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Posted: 2/10/2021 7:17:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not joking. Trying to find a second home or a peace of land there now. Will start taking mini vacations there to get known in the area and not a stranger. But holy hell property has gone up there. Yeah, you can thank Californians for that. |
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Posted: 2/10/2021 11:11:38 PM EDT
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Do you have kids who are growing? Shirts, pants, sweaters, socks, etc. in larger sizes. Extra jeans for yourself if you are hard on them.
Toiletries, soap, "feminine protection" supplies, vitamins, OTC meds you use regularly. Extra Gojo if you work on greasy/oily stuff a lot. Common spare parts for your vehicles, especially if you plan on keeping them a while. Oil, antifreeze, PS fluid, trans fluid, filters. If you don't have a smaller kitchen appliance like an Instant Pot I would get one as it is excellent for making tougher cuts of meat into awesome meals. If you don't have one yet, a freezer for the garage so you can get quarter or half a beef, or a half or whole hog at once. |
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Posted: 2/10/2021 11:39:53 PM EDT
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I built a machine shop so I can make money while you guys are all selling off your preps because shtf was a slow, grinding depression instead of a instant collapse.....
 Buy tools that will allow you to market your skills directly to the community instead of going through a business that may cease to exist. Having staples and clothing and durable goods is great. Homesteading is a very worthy goal. Once you eat the food and wear the clothes there must be a plan to live on. We actually had a great depression and Biden whole heartedly wants another one. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 12:40:00 AM EDT
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I like the machine shop concept but you also need skill in using those machines.
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Posted: 2/11/2021 3:57:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buy realestate with a 30 year low interest rate loan. Pay it back with inflated dollars. Bingo!!! Then Rent it out! Someone can pay the mortgage for you and you can pocket the other half of the rent. Rent matches inflation, your mortgage stays the same. Everyone who thinks paying off dept is the way to go isn't wrong. Make someone else do it for you. It's like having an ATM machine. Good luck with your search. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 8:43:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: staples: TP, soap, laundry detergent, shampoo, toothpaste, cleaning supplies, etc. all this stuff never goes bad, you always need it and it only gets more expensive. Quote HistoryQuoted: staples: TP, soap, laundry detergent, shampoo, toothpaste, cleaning supplies, etc. all this stuff never goes bad, you always need it and it only gets more expensive. This is low-hanging fruit that you can do right now and should. The current leadership will govern by crisis, that will simply dry up such supplies and prices as irrational as it is. It's easy to expand beyond this, but for short-term, stress free supplies, it's these. Having seen the damage from the most recent hurricane around Panama City, FL, I would recommend basic repair supplies as well (plywood, 2x4's, nails, tarps, caulk, etc.). Hail, high winds, tornado, fallen tree damage etc. may end up long-term damage if insurance companies are back logged or supplies dry up/costs are up. Anything to keep you home livable with minor damage. Quoted: I like the machine shop concept but you also need skill in using those machines. That's just the idea of one skillset. There is blacksmithing, small engine repair, firewood, garden/canning, chickens/eggs, reloading, distilling/brewing, sewing/repairing, wood-working/carpentry, leather-work, communications, etc. Hell, my wife and I are working towards doing some small batch craft beer brewing. I'm sure some good craft beer will be easy to trade after all that piss-beer is stolen and consumed  ROCK6 |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 9:03:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like the machine shop concept but you also need skill in using those machines. It has nothing to do with the machine shop. What is your skill? What can you do to prepare to use your skills to make a living in a bad time |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 9:07:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is low-hanging fruit that you can do right now and should. The current leadership will govern by crisis, that will simply dry up such supplies and prices as irrational as it is. It's easy to expand beyond this, but for short-term, stress free supplies, it's these. Having seen the damage from the most recent hurricane around Panama City, FL, I would recommend basic repair supplies as well (plywood, 2x4's, nails, tarps, caulk, etc.). Hail, high winds, tornado, fallen tree damage etc. may end up long-term damage if insurance companies are back logged or supplies dry up/costs are up. Anything to keep you home livable with minor damage. That's just the idea of one skillset. There is blacksmithing, small engine repair, firewood, garden/canning, chickens/eggs, reloading, distilling/brewing, sewing/repairing, wood-working/carpentry, leather-work, communications, etc. Hell, my wife and I are working towards doing some small batch craft beer brewing. I'm sure some good craft beer will be easy to trade after all that piss-beer is stolen and consumed ROCK6 Exactly! Don't prep to do what I do best.....prepare to do what you do best...or start developing skills now if you have none. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 9:11:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. Debt is what most people overlook. And outside of this BS fantasy that "when TSHTF all my debt will be wiped away" non sense, there is no reason to carry a ton of debt now a days. We skrimped and lived off rice and beans for a few years getting completely out of debt back in 2008 and have never looked back. Being debt free equals having the initiative. A poster above mentioned "having land in TX in case they secede". Might have been meant as a joke, might not have been. But what if? What if 3-7 states declare they are done with this socialist BS and break away? Can you move or are you stuck upside down in a McMansion in suburbia? Could you buy land there while your place is on the market in the old place? What about simple job loss? I was told it was foolish to have six months of food cause "no one loses their job for that long" by some internet expert here back in 2007'ish. Then the market economy and all you heard was stories of people losing jobs and not being able to find equivalent income for a year or more. TSHTF is going to be a long, slow socio-economi slide. Debt is going to crush people. Much like the Depression when banks started taking farms and houses. The TX idea. I agree with the premise, but even if Texas seceded, it will still be overrun with millions upon millions of people that would rather suckle at the federal teat than live independent. The same people that are being allowed to run over the border now. The enemy within at that point. Job loss? You hit the nail o. The head there too. I got laid off in May last year. Still surviving off savings and stuff I had stored up (ok and wife had a bangin year in real estate). But yes, that is the most likely SHTF for most of us. Stuff to buy cheap now...as other have mentioned, every day stuff. I'll add again, getting a well, solar and big ass propane tank. Get as far away from utilities as you can. If Bidet continues his BS, it won't be long before we start seeing "load shedding" of the electric grid...where some areas have scheduled blackouts to maintain supply to other areas. Seen it...pretty sure it's only a matter of time... |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 10:50:36 AM EDT
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Land...
But really, if you're hedging against inflation you shouldn't just be buying land. You should be borrowing as much as you can at today's record low rates and making payments on that land using dollars that are decreasing in value. But hedging against inflation doesn't really align with being prepared in the sense that we think so there is a conflict between the borrowing cheap money to buy things that will inflate with time...how you choose to balance that conflict is a personal decision that we can only discuss. My decision doesn't make much difference to yours bc I have different circumstances, goals, and time horizons than you. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 11:03:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly! Don't prep to do what I do best.....prepare to do what you do best...or start developing skills now if you have none. I’m a doctor, I can make beer/wine/whiskey, I can fix shit, I can cook, and I was a semi pro competitive shooter. I think I may do OK when SHTF if I can find a good group of people to work with |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 11:21:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm a doctor, I can make beer/wine/whiskey, I can fix shit, I can cook, and I was a semi pro competitive shooter. I think I may do OK when SHTF if I can find a good group of people to work with |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 1:33:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m a doctor, I can make beer/wine/whiskey, I can fix shit, I can cook, and I was a semi pro competitive shooter. I think I may do OK when SHTF if I can find a good group of people to work with Now THAT'S a skill to have! The doctor thing isn't bad either  LOL.
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Posted: 2/11/2021 1:44:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m a doctor, I can make beer/wine/whiskey, I can fix shit, I can cook, and I was a semi pro competitive shooter. I think I may do OK when SHTF if I can find a good group of people to work with I'm not a doctor, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last week, so, I'm GTG. LOL |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 1:48:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m a doctor, I can make beer/wine/whiskey, I can fix shit, I can cook, and I was a semi pro competitive shooter. I think I may do OK when SHTF if I can find a good group of people to work with I would love to hear your thoughts on how best to provide medical care without modern pharmaceuticals, if they were to become unobtainable or unaffordable to your patents. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 5:43:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: staples: TP, soap, laundry detergent, shampoo, toothpaste, cleaning supplies, etc. all this stuff never goes bad, you always need it and it only gets more expensive. backups: light bulbs, batteries, oil, etc. sooner or later whatever you have will break, it won't be repairable cuz progress (/sarc) and you'll need a spare. that spare may not be available or may be expensive as fuck. books. yes, books. The internet needs electricity, both of which need first wold conditions to function reliably. you may have noticed we are rapidly becoming a 3rd world nation. (yeah diversity). books are good forever. lots of stuff is going out of print and that knowledge will simply disappear. how to books, history (that can't be changed..................), resource books, etc. way underrated IMO and highly valuable. Then by all means, please take the time to download all the nice PDF's available on the internet right now! Eagle AND SOF Magazine PDFS https://mca-marines.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Leatherneck-February-2012.pdf |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 6:03:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would love to hear your thoughts on how best to provide medical care without modern pharmaceuticals, if they were to become unobtainable or unaffordable to your patents. Not all branches of medicine require drugs to work. DC/PT/DO/Md can all do a surprising amount of stuff without drugs. Certainly not everything, but many things that would likely be relevant to SHTF. I imagine musculoskeletal injuries/traumas are wayyy more common in the beginning of things than other concerns. Shit look how many people who had amputations in the civil war (1) field hospitals lived. Wasn’t always glorious and adding some purell to a wound, while obviously not ideal, is better than rubbing dirt on it and praying to the sun gods |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 6:14:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buy realestate with a 30 year low interest rate loan. Pay it back with inflated dollars. This is the way Hard goods at low interest Unless your income is fixed or declining |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 11:32:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not all branches of medicine require drugs to work. DC/PT/DO/Md can all do a surprising amount of stuff without drugs. Certainly not everything, but many things that would likely be relevant to SHTF. I imagine musculoskeletal injuries/traumas are wayyy more common in the beginning of things than other concerns. Shit look how many people who had amputations in the civil war (1) field hospitals lived. Wasn't always glorious and adding some purell to a wound, while obviously not ideal, is better than rubbing dirt on it and praying to the sun gods
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Posted: 2/12/2021 3:50:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would love to hear your thoughts on how best to provide medical care without modern pharmaceuticals, if they were to become unobtainable or unaffordable to your patents. Third world medicine is mostly public health level stuff. Clean water, personal hygiene, eliminating insect vectors, sanitary food prep and waste disposal. To illustrate, I was at a wilderness medicine course years ago and the consensus was the longer the trek and the more remote, pack more meds and less stuff You can improvise stuff but you can't improvise penicillin or lidocaine. |
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Posted: 2/12/2021 6:53:41 AM EDT
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Everything
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Posted: 2/12/2021 7:29:35 AM EDT
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There is alot of great ideas already mentioned but i would recommend tools.
But not just any old tools but tool truck (i prefer snap on) Doesn't matter the age or where you got it from but if it broke they will replace. I have inherited a bunch of tools from my grandfather when he passed away but if something breaks and isnt a snap on its getting replaced with a snap on. I factor in when i pass away and my kids have it, it is one thing they dont have to worry about. |
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Posted: 2/12/2021 10:14:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gonna suck getting my shit chopped off by you, The Butcher of GA. @boerseun especially cause I'm not a surgeon seriously though, lots of conditions can be helped/mitigated/cured by non-pharmaceutical intervention, and much more with low tech solutions. Food poisoning can usually be fixed with gatorade and immodium. Many musculoskeletal injuries can be helped with stretching, strengthening, or low tech splinting (tape and sticks if it's all you have). Spinal disc injuries, headaches, joint sprains and strains, radicular pain, etc can often be treated with chiropractic or pt style stuff. One good thing about being a chiro is all I really need are my hands and a flat surface. Everything else equipment wise is a bonus or expands what you can help. Granted, I'm not saying we'd have the level of medical care we have now. In long term grid down I imagine we have more people dying of diabetes, COPD, heart conditions, etc. Things that are not able to be helped with the above are not going to be treated like they are now. I don't envision a situation where the whole grid goes down forever. I really don't. there's going to be some lab that's able to make insulin. Distribution and prices will be fucked, but we'll have guys in their garages making antibiotics within a week. hell, look up the history of the middle ages. Basically everyone would get sick and die of water borne illness. Then they stopped putting their poop into the streets and started drinking alcoholic everything (seriously, nobody drank water, you drank low beer or low wine all the time) because the alcohol kills pathogens. You know the story of Johnny Appleseed was real, but he didn't plant trees so the kids would have something to eat? he did it so settlers would have a source of fermentable sugars to make booze 
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Posted: 2/12/2021 12:53:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @boerseun especially cause I'm not a surgeon seriously though, lots of conditions can be helped/mitigated/cured by non-pharmaceutical intervention, and much more with low tech solutions. Food poisoning can usually be fixed with gatorade and immodium. Many musculoskeletal injuries can be helped with stretching, strengthening, or low tech splinting (tape and sticks if it's all you have). Spinal disc injuries, headaches, joint sprains and strains, radicular pain, etc can often be treated with chiropractic or pt style stuff. One good thing about being a chiro is all I really need are my hands and a flat surface. Everything else equipment wise is a bonus or expands what you can help. Granted, I'm not saying we'd have the level of medical care we have now. In long term grid down I imagine we have more people dying of diabetes, COPD, heart conditions, etc. Things that are not able to be helped with the above are not going to be treated like they are now. I don't envision a situation where the whole grid goes down forever. I really don't. there's going to be some lab that's able to make insulin. Distribution and prices will be fucked, but we'll have guys in their garages making antibiotics within a week. hell, look up the history of the middle ages. Basically everyone would get sick and die of water borne illness. Then they stopped putting their poop into the streets and started drinking alcoholic everything (seriously, nobody drank water, you drank low beer or low wine all the time) because the alcohol kills pathogens. You know the story of Johnny Appleseed was real, but he didn't plant trees so the kids would have something to eat? he did it so settlers would have a source of fermentable sugars to make booze hehehehe! I hear ya. I once did surgery on myself. It didn't go well. Ended up in ER anyways! I completely agree with you regarding the low tech solutions. I'm not a medical expert by any means, but I did see how many people turned to the low tech solutions when times got tough in South Africa. Homeopathic specialists and pharmacies are doing brisk business there now - mostly because private doctors are so expensive, nobody has insurance anymore and government doctors are a complete joke. Hell, they actually have a Department of traditional healers (witch doctors)! There will certainly be a die-off of folks with COPD, diabetes, etc. I mean, just look what's happening now, since Bidet cancelled Trump's EO to lower insulin. As you said, the knowledge is out there. The smart folks that know how to makes stuff won't disappear and they will probably make a killing (no pun intended) if this does happen. But also, chance of a permanent grid down are slim. Our most likely situation is going to be inflation, tanked economy, lack of law enforcement and infrastructure (utilities - brownouts, dirty water supply, fuel). Hey, I got no problem with only drinking alcohol! I've been working on that for a looooong time now That said, a little still in the back yard would go a long way. It really surprises me how few people know the real history of the middle ages.
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Posted: 2/12/2021 2:08:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey, I got no problem with only drinking alcohol! I've been working on that for a looooong time now That said, a little still in the back yard would go a long way. It really surprises me how few people know the real history of the middle ages.It's easier than most people think, too. I saw a local grocery store was clearing out apple cider for $2 a gallon. Bought all of it ($10), threw it in a pot with 5 pounds of brown sugar ($6), hot water, and a spoonful of yeast (basically free). It's bubbling away as we speak in my brew pot. Should be about 7 gallons of hard cider at ~13% alcohol when I'm all said and done. Stays fresh for a long damn time in the right circumstances. Could water it down to clean suspect water, has calories, and makes everything better. Or I could hypothetically run the same thing through a small still and end up with ~5 bottles of 100 proof apple brandy that ends up costing $3/bottle. And that stays drinkable forever. it's I think 70 calories an ounce, can be used to start fires or parties, clean wounds, whatever. |
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Posted: 2/12/2021 3:01:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's easier than most people think, too. I saw a local grocery store was clearing out apple cider for $2 a gallon. Bought all of it ($10), threw it in a pot with 5 pounds of brown sugar ($6), hot water, and a spoonful of yeast (basically free). It's bubbling away as we speak in my brew pot. Should be about 7 gallons of hard cider at ~13% alcohol when I'm all said and done. Stays fresh for a long damn time in the right circumstances. Could water it down to clean suspect water, has calories, and makes everything better. Or I could hypothetically run the same thing through a small still and end up with ~5 bottles of 100 proof apple brandy that ends up costing $3/bottle. And that stays drinkable forever. it's I think 70 calories an ounce, can be used to start fires or parties, clean wounds, whatever. Funny thing...not to harp too much about SA - this Covid mess has the whole country locked down completely. The regime decided it would be a good idea to ban the sale of alcohol and cigarettes (not tobacco, just cigs) nationwide while in lockdown. So every single grocery store has a display right as you walk in the door with pineapples, sugar and yeast...for baking, you know? The cigarette thing is very suspect, because the only company selling rolling papers there, is owned by the son of one of the head honcho's in the leading party. |
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Posted: 2/12/2021 9:52:36 PM EDT
[#44]
Picked up a few gallons of Rotella T6 oil today. Shell is running a good rebate again and I use a number of gallons of this oil per year in various vehicles and equipment so gonna keep buying it until I reach the max allowed for rebates.
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Posted: 2/13/2021 10:42:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @boerseun especially cause I'm not a surgeon seriously though, lots of conditions can be helped/mitigated/cured by non-pharmaceutical intervention, and much more with low tech solutions. Food poisoning can usually be fixed with gatorade and immodium. Many musculoskeletal injuries can be helped with stretching, strengthening, or low tech splinting (tape and sticks if it's all you have). Spinal disc injuries, headaches, joint sprains and strains, radicular pain, etc can often be treated with chiropractic or pt style stuff. One good thing about being a chiro is all I really need are my hands and a flat surface. Everything else equipment wise is a bonus or expands what you can help. Granted, I'm not saying we'd have the level of medical care we have now. In long term grid down I imagine we have more people dying of diabetes, COPD, heart conditions, etc. Things that are not able to be helped with the above are not going to be treated like they are now. I don't envision a situation where the whole grid goes down forever. I really don't. there's going to be some lab that's able to make insulin. Distribution and prices will be fucked, but we'll have guys in their garages making antibiotics within a week. hell, look up the history of the middle ages. Basically everyone would get sick and die of water borne illness. Then they stopped putting their poop into the streets and started drinking alcoholic everything (seriously, nobody drank water, you drank low beer or low wine all the time) because the alcohol kills pathogens. You know the story of Johnny Appleseed was real, but he didn't plant trees so the kids would have something to eat? he did it so settlers would have a source of fermentable sugars to make booze Spinal health is everything. A lot of folks will overlook this because of the types of jobs and things they do (or don't do) now. Once bodies are carrying loads more (rucks, firewood, etc), crashing into each other more (combatives, hand to hand), going to the ground quickly (especially if you they don't know how to do that correctly or aren't used to moving on the ground) or just compressing the spine from carrying too heavy of gear (preppers which don't train but pack rucks with too much crap in them and won't figure that out till after the fact) or just not having their body used to carrying gear/living in gear for extended periods of time. All of these will contribute to possibility of pain/injury/pulling something. I've watched fresh out of the Marines big killer dudes cry like babies when a toe was dislocated doing combatives- breathe, relax, have them look the other way and pop it back into place. There is a great DVD from the Russian Systema site on the Combative body where they got into spinal health and a lot of simple exercises to help with that. Best massage I ever had was getting hit with a stick for 45 minutes at a Systema seminar- I almost fell asleep. |
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Posted: 2/13/2021 10:47:01 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I like the way you think! Funny thing...not to harp too much about SA - this Covid mess has the whole country locked down completely. The regime decided it would be a good idea to ban the sale of alcohol and cigarettes (not tobacco, just cigs) nationwide while in lockdown. So every single grocery store has a display right as you walk in the door with pineapples, sugar and yeast...for baking, you know? The cigarette thing is very suspect, because the only company selling rolling papers there, is owned by the son of one of the head honcho's in the leading party. Come on now, don't tell us South Afrika is corrupt? That would be like believing our socialist overlords in Amerika are corrupt!!
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Posted: 2/13/2021 11:49:10 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Spinal health is everything. I had a compression fracture of L1 30 years ago. Periodically I get a reminder that I was young and stupid. You don't realize how debilitating back issues are until they hit. Also, another answer to OP's question - a nicotine patch. Seriously, if you smoke, kick the habit because between inflation and tax increases it's about to become a lot more expensive. Almost every state is hurting financially and raising taxes on tobacco products is an easy, politically safe way to raise revenue. MD yesterday just voted to increase the cig tax from $2 per pack to $3.75 per pack. WV is looking at phasing out our income tax and increasing taxes on energy, alcohol, tobacco, and a potential new soda/sugary drink tax will replace it. |
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Posted: 2/13/2021 12:12:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Come on now, don't tell us South Afrika is corrupt? That would be like believing our socialist overlords in Amerika are corrupt!! I should have finished the post - know how to grow stuff is also a good skill...imagine being able to grow tobacco when it's too expensive or near impossible to get a hold of. |
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Posted: 2/13/2021 2:53:19 PM EDT
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Quoted: I’m thinking more like durable goods, tools, home repair, appliances....things like that. Thoughts? How are the roofs on your buildings? |
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Posted: 2/13/2021 8:31:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How are the roofs on your buildings? Excellent. Built the house 5 years ago and the shop 10 years ago. Metal roofing and siding on both. Good point though. |
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