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Posted: 8/30/2018 6:44:36 PM EDT
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Vortex offers scopes from $250 to $2500, so you'll be able to get a full range of options from them. For a dedicated lightweight hunting optic, the Razor HD LH is the best choice. I have owned or handled optics in most of their lines and the Razor HD LH is a fantastic scope. Very light, very good glass, and dead simple.
Vortex is by far my favorite optic company, they make great stuff that I trust and enjoy using. Here's my HD LH on bottom and my HD AMG on top. Both sitting on Creedmoor rifles.  Attached FileIf he wants more features like an exposed turret, and illumination, then the PST gen2 3-15x would be the way to go, but it'll be heavier than the HD LH. |
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Posted: 8/30/2018 7:24:30 PM EDT
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For the price, I think it would be very hard to go wrong with a Vortex Razor LH in 3-15, for the stated purpose and price range.
I have the 1.5-8 and it's gtg. Like the BoxofRox stated, a dead simple hunting scope. |
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Posted: 8/31/2018 10:25:01 AM EDT
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Aside from the 1-4x24 and 1-6x24 variable power scopes in the Razor line, the majority are going to be a higher magnification range than what you specified your friend is looking for. They do have a 3-15x42 in the Razor HD LH series that is sub $1k. Other than that, the rest of the Razor line is either going to be over or under your specified magnification range.
As mentioned, if you're looking for something with an illuminated reticle, the PST series in the Viper line would be the way to go. They offer a 3-15x44 (in 2nd and 1st focal plain). I actually have one of these on a hunting AR (chambered in 6.8 Rem SPC) I built and I've been very pleased with it. The Viper line of scope from Vortex have several models that fit your specified magnification range AND they are very reasonably priced. I have a Viper HS 2.5x10x44 on a 7mm-08 Tikka I have and it is a great scope. Yes, the Razor line has the best glass Vortex offers but the Viper series has great glass as well. It is comparable to the glass in a Leupold VX-3i. It also boasts the same warranty as the high end Vortex optics. In my opinion, Vortex has the best warranty in the market and I say that being a Leupold guy. Granted, Vortex is beginning to make a bigger presence in my gun safe. |
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Posted: 9/1/2018 12:46:01 AM EDT
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What makes you think Vortex has a better warranty than Leupold, archer?
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Posted: 9/1/2018 1:11:08 PM EDT
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I do have the Vortest on one of my precision rifles. It is great glass. Leupold is great glass as well. On an elk hunt your priority in glass is slightly different than a range gun. Personally, I don't want an AO scope, quite simply a lot of shots happen too fast to take the time to focus. I like 2-9 - 3-12 scopes for hunting. I keep my scope on low power for fast shots and crank it up on longer shots. Priority #1 for me is twilight brightness. A lot of shots are taken early and late so brightness is very important. Weight is also important to me. I own a lot of different scopes and in 40+years of optics use I have learned that Zeiss is a no brainer when it comes to brightness. Leupold is excellent and is a great balance of all the features I like. Vortex is great glass but I have the least experience with them.
Figure out what his priorities are and compare features. You are likely to be very happy with any of the 3 listed above. |
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Posted: 9/2/2018 10:12:00 AM EDT
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What makes you think Vortex has a better warranty than Leupold, archer? Again, this isn't a matter of hating on Leupold. I own several and have never been anything but pleased with them. In this case, it's simply a matter of stating the facts. |
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Posted: 9/2/2018 9:15:29 PM EDT
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I see, archer. Can't argue with that. I wonder how they do it as well in regards to rangefinders. Leupold gave me 50% off a new one that was out of warranty and never made me prove I was the original purchaser, but Vortex is free/new no matter what.
In regard to optics though, Leupold is second to none in the gold ring and above lines. They really did me well when I dealt with them on issues that had nothing to do with them or their product not being made correctly. Vortex for sure is on another level. I think that drives a lot of their purchases as people know that is a strong selling point on the used market, and for good reason. My only Vortex product is a rangefinder. Works fine. When it doesn't I'll get a new one. |
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Posted: 9/6/2018 11:03:23 AM EDT
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I looked at the Vortex HD LH pretty hard for my 280AI, but ended up going with a Leupold VX5 3-15.
Not saying this is your friend, but here is one of the biggest mistakes I've seen: People buy an awesome scope for their rifle, but cheap out on binos and spotting scopes. You'll spend maybe 10 seconds behind a rifle, and 500 times that behind binos and your SS. |
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Posted: 9/6/2018 11:14:43 AM EDT
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For the price, I think it would be very hard to go wrong with a Vortex Razor LH in 3-15, for the stated purpose and price range. I have the 1.5-8 and it's gtg. Like the BoxofRox stated, a dead simple hunting scope. |
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Posted: 9/6/2018 12:26:32 PM EDT
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I looked at the Vortex HD LH pretty hard for my 280AI, but ended up going with a Leupold VX5 3-15. Not saying this is your friend, but here is one of the biggest mistakes I've seen: People buy an awesome scope for their rifle, but cheap out on binos and spotting scopes. You'll spend maybe 10 seconds behind a rifle, and 500 times that behind binos and your SS. A set of Razor binos are on my list and some kind of Vortex spotter will be after that. |
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Posted: 9/6/2018 3:57:43 PM EDT
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I looked at the Vortex HD LH pretty hard for my 280AI, but ended up going with a Leupold VX5 3-15. Not saying this is your friend, but here is one of the biggest mistakes I've seen: People buy an awesome scope for their rifle, but cheap out on binos and spotting scopes. You'll spend maybe 10 seconds behind a rifle, and 500 times that behind binos and your SS. |
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Posted: 9/7/2018 12:16:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/7/2018 12:20:33 PM EDT
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I see, archer. Can't argue with that. I wonder how they do it as well in regards to rangefinders. Leupold gave me 50% off a new one that was out of warranty and never made me prove I was the original purchaser, but Vortex is free/new no matter what. In regard to optics though, Leupold is second to none in the gold ring and above lines. They really did me well when I dealt with them on issues that had nothing to do with them or their product not being made correctly. Vortex for sure is on another level. I think that drives a lot of their purchases as people know that is a strong selling point on the used market, and for good reason. My only Vortex product is a rangefinder. Works fine. When it doesn't I'll get a new one. |
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Posted: 9/7/2018 3:27:15 PM EDT
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amg on my nosler 28. i have a few razors and love them as well. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/347895/IMG_5221-664166.JPG That's a sexy rifle. |
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Posted: 9/25/2018 10:23:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just pre'd a little. That's a sexy rifle. |
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Posted: 10/5/2018 8:32:44 AM EDT
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amg on my nosler 28. i have a few razors and love them as well. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/347895/IMG_5221-664166.JPG |
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Posted: 10/5/2018 10:01:02 AM EDT
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You can check out the Swaro Z3 as well .
The 3-10 x 42 has been rock solid. |
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Posted: 10/5/2018 10:13:36 AM EDT
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I have a razor on one of my 50 bmg's.
Several hundred rounds and not a single issue with the scope. I talked to the Vortex rep before I bought it and asked if it would take the pounding of the bmg. He said absolutely and in case it doesn't send it back and we will send you a new one. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 11:36:26 PM EDT
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amg on my nosler 28. i have a few razors and love them as well. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/347895/IMG_5221-664166.JPG  OP, Hunting out west I would want target turrets, and I would be wanting good glass with good tracking on the knobs..I would want the gen2 vortex PST 3-18 myself..... I end up hunting in an area with lots of long shots.so I went with the razor gen2 4.5-27-56...I shot my moose this year at 720 yards..had I not, our group would have gone without meat this year..the bulls were extremely flighty due to the bugs being bad making for them running as soon as you popped over the ridge...Mines a heavy bastard but it rides around in a buggy so not a big deal...  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/10/2018 11:02:21 AM EDT
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Very nice piece you have there... OP, Hunting out west I would want target turrets, and I would be wanting good glass with good tracking on the knobs..I would want the gen2 vortex PST 3-18 myself..... I end up hunting in an area with lots of long shots.so I went with the razor gen2 4.5-27-56...I shot my moose this year at 720 yards..had I not, our group would have gone without meat this year..the bulls were extremely flighty due to the bugs being bad making for them running as soon as you popped over the ridge...Mines a heavy bastard but it rides around in a buggy so not a big deal... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/404934/fullsizeoutput_538-699023.JPG thank you and sweet rifle as well this was CO last year . shot to 600 at a range and 1400 private land  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/10/2018 11:08:05 AM EDT
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I don't have any of their big scopes, but my "walking" gun for deer is a 6.8 SBR with a 1-4 Vortex Crossfire 2. It's been great for what I use it for.
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Posted: 10/28/2018 10:55:25 PM EDT
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I use a Viper HS 4-16x44 on my .270 for MN whitetails and just recently got back from my first ever elk hunt (New Mexico).
Worked for me! A lesser scope than many are recommending, but good luck on your choice and hunt! |
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Posted: 10/29/2018 1:58:55 AM EDT
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long range moose hunting... that gave me a chubby. thank you and sweet rifle as well this was CO last year . shot to 600 at a range and 1400 private land https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/347895/IMG_6214-700383.JPG 
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Posted: 10/30/2018 5:56:15 AM EDT
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300 rum is an old friend of mine. one of my first magnums. mine is loaded for 200 gr barnes which are accurate in this rifle but have a horrible bc . i need to pull bullets and start over one day
gen 2 razor on a 338lM . haven't hunted with it ever but wouldn't hesitate  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/30/2018 7:53:29 AM EDT
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Well, I am cheating , it shoots a 230 Berger hybrid target @3220fps chambered in 300rum...Have shot it out to 2000 yards so far..need to go further, next summer...
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long range moose hunting... that gave me a chubby. thank you and sweet rifle as well this was CO last year . shot to 600 at a range and 1400 private land https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/347895/IMG_6214-700383.JPG
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Posted: 10/30/2018 8:29:36 AM EDT
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Quoted:
300 rum is an old friend of mine. one of my first magnums. mine is loaded for 200 gr barnes which are accurate in this rifle but have a horrible bc . i need to pull bullets and start over one day gen 2 razor on a 338lM . haven't hunted with it ever but wouldn't hesitate https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/347895/IMG_1165_JPG-722009.JPG Quoted: Damn. I thought the 215 Hybrid at 2900 out of a light .300 WSM was sporty. |
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Posted: 10/30/2018 8:37:07 AM EDT
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It will go hotter, been up to 102 grains of RE-33(99.0 is my hot load), but it is pushing to close to the line...2900 out of a 300wsm sounds pretty sporty to me for a short action...... |
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Posted: 10/30/2018 8:49:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: RE-26 is magic. |
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Posted: 10/30/2018 9:03:03 AM EDT
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How far out have you reached with thee wsm and how does it do? would you trust it for long range hunting? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: RE-26 is magic. The .300 WSM is stupidly easy to load for. Here’s the starting load as an example:  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/30/2018 5:27:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve shot it out to 500 and would feel perfectly fine making first round hits on game at 600. With a heavier rifle and a stable shooting position, I’d feel good stretching it way beyond that. The reports from guys who have killed far more elk than I have are universally positive on the 215. A .300 WM will get you more velocity than the WSM, but 2900 FPS is moving pretty good. The .300 WSM is stupidly easy to load for. Here’s the starting load as an example: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/53154/A1A0DB02-E595-4927-AB52-3A8EDB0AC373_jpeg-722083.JPG |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 12:30:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sweet, the 300 berger? Are you shooting the barnes LRX, if so do you like them? , I have a few boxes setting in the cabinet, was thinking they would be good for bears..I used to load the 200 grain barnes x for bears but the LRX is supposed to be much better accuracy wise... It will go hotter, been up to 102 grains of RE-33(99.0 is my hot load), but it is pushing to close to the line...2900 out of a 300wsm sounds pretty sporty to me for a short action...... |
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