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Posted: 2/25/2018 8:57:37 AM EDT
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Tourniquet
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Posted: 2/25/2018 8:58:35 AM EDT
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Tourniquet
Celox or similar Pressure bandage Chest seal Gloves (don’t take up much space) Decompression needle Nasopharyngeal Airway Duct tape |
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Posted: 2/25/2018 9:46:51 AM EDT
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Turniquet
Israeli battle dressing Duct tape Quick Clot Sam splint |
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Posted: 2/25/2018 9:54:26 AM EDT
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2 tourniquets
3 bandages |
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Posted: 2/25/2018 2:06:06 PM EDT
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Tourniquet Celox or similar Pressure bandage Chest seal Gloves (don’t take up much space) Decompression needle Nasopharyngeal Airway Duct tape Minus the gloves and duct tape, that’s what our medics vacuum seal into a (cargo) pocket FA kit for us. We also have these “inner tube” (thin rubber) tourniquets that also double as pressure dressings. |
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Posted: 2/25/2018 3:45:51 PM EDT
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Have you taken a trauma class? It makes the kit a lot easier to use.
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Posted: 2/26/2018 12:35:17 AM EDT
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It all depends, what are you going to use the kit for, vehicle, shooting range, ATVing, home use, motorcycle, etc?
1. Tourniquet 2. Pressure bandage (Israeli, Etc) 3. Trauma shears The other items will depend on what you'll be using the kit for. |
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Posted: 2/26/2018 5:55:05 AM EDT
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Tourniquet Celox or similar Pressure bandage Chest seal Gloves (don’t take up much space) Decompression needle Nasopharyngeal Airway Duct tape ROCK6 |
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Posted: 2/26/2018 6:58:49 AM EDT
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This is good, but the decompression needle and nasopharyngeal airway do require some training to use properly. I wouldn't have them in a kit unless I was trained and routinely practice with them. ROCK6 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Tourniquet Celox or similar Pressure bandage Chest seal Gloves (don’t take up much space) Decompression needle Nasopharyngeal Airway Duct tape ROCK6 Looking more for kit that I would admin to myself. Sticking needles and putting objects inside of others is not something I would prefer to do, as I do not trust any 'good Samaritan' law. No good deed goes un-punished. Especially in NJ with so many dirtbag lawyers. |
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Posted: 2/26/2018 7:12:36 PM EDT
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-Tourniquet(s). Get the CAT, don't mess around with cheap imitations sold by navy seals or ebay knock offs.
-Pressure bandage (I like the Olaes) -Chest Seal -Compressed gauze and a roll of athletic tape (sports tape, not the cheap bandage tape) -Shears |
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Posted: 2/26/2018 7:28:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is good, but the decompression needle and nasopharyngeal airway do require some training to use properly. I wouldn't have them in a kit unless I was trained and routinely practice with them. ROCK6 IMHO |
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Posted: 2/26/2018 8:00:09 PM EDT
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Bourbon
Scotch Tequila Rum Vodka It’s an emotional trauma kit. |
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Posted: 2/26/2018 8:36:12 PM EDT
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Bourbon Scotch Tequila Rum Vodka It’s an emotional trauma kit. |
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Posted: 2/26/2018 8:59:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sadly to say I was an EMT back in the early 90's until I moved to my current location. Tried to get onto the (paid) squad, however it is small town nepotism to the n'th degree. Looking more for kit that I would admin to myself. Sticking needles and putting objects inside of others is not something I would prefer to do, as I do not trust any 'good Samaritan' law. No good deed goes un-punished. Especially in NJ with so many dirtbag lawyers. Needles on the other hand if done improperly can do more harm than good and kill someone. Paramedic level stuff. I think a EDC kit should have gauze as well for wound packing. You can't use tourniquets on junctions, only on limbs. And the chest needs seals. |
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Posted: 2/26/2018 9:57:30 PM EDT
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And the chest needs seals.  and practicing on yourself doesn't lend well to inserting into someone else. Although, I would recommend getting training with the nasopharyngeal airway, as the need is likely more common than needing a decompression needle.
ROCK6 |
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Posted: 2/26/2018 10:06:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Chest seals are pretty easy to understand and identify the need. Getting the visual from the blood and making sure the one side is open to drain properly can be practiced fairly easily. Finding a willing person to practice with a nasopharyngeal airway is difficult and practicing on yourself doesn't lend well to inserting into someone else. Although, I would recommend getting training with the nasopharyngeal airway, as the need is likely more common than needing a decompression needle.
ROCK6
Our EMT class instructor wouldn't allow us to try it on someone. Had to use dummies. |
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Posted: 2/26/2018 10:08:04 PM EDT
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I'd add a CPR mask too. I have CAT tourniquet, SWAT-T, bandages, gloves, combat gauze, chest seals, nasopharyngeal airway, and tape. I have the above plus a couple emergency blankets and a SAM splint in my vehicle.
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Posted: 2/27/2018 8:22:00 AM EDT
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Bah! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bourbon Scotch Tequila Rum Vodka It’s an emotional trauma kit. Quoted:
I'd add a CPR mask too. I have CAT tourniquet, SWAT-T, bandages, gloves, combat gauze, chest seals, nasopharyngeal airway, and tape. I have the above plus a couple emergency blankets and a SAM splint in my vehicle. |
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Posted: 2/27/2018 8:43:22 AM EDT
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Turniquet Israeli battle dressing Duct tape Quick Clot Sam splint Tourniquet is #1 Nasopharyngeal airway is way over-rated. My trauma kit is divided into two sides: Airway and Bleeding. If you have even a little training, an LMA and ambu bag are all you need for an emergency airway. |
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Posted: 3/3/2018 8:07:06 PM EDT
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Tourniquet Celox or similar Pressure bandage Chest seal Gloves (don’t take up much space) Decompression needle Nasopharyngeal Airway Duct tape |
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Posted: 3/4/2018 1:14:43 PM EDT
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As a medic I am always wearing gloves and often eye-pro.
I have only ever used the following to treat GSWs; -tourniquet -chest seal -Quick Clot sponge -Kling Roll -Tape This does not include airway considerations, only the actual entrance/exit wound. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 1:36:49 PM EDT
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Seems everyone is mostly on the same page in here.
Google or Youtube the M.A.R.C.H. Algorithm. To Stop Massive Hemorrhage: Tourniquet (Either CAT or SOF-T) Combat Gauze Emergency Trauma Bandage (ETD)- From North American Rescue, they make a 4" and even a "flat" version to save room in tight spots. S Rolled Gauze- Also from North American Rescue, vacuum packed to save room. Airway: Nasopharyngeal (takes up very little space even with lubricant) Respiration: Chest Seal, I keep the Hyfin Vent Compact Twin pack. (Again saves space and the twin pack does not take up much more space then a single). Circulation: Don't have much in my kits to help this. Hypothermia: Again, don't have much in my kits to help on this issue either. Additional items I keep around are Duct Tape, Shears, and a couple pairs of gloves. You had mentioned "5" items in a small kit, so you would have to go over what you believe is more important. If I had to get down to just five I'd go Tourniquet, Combat Gauze, Trauma Bandage, Chest Seal, and Nasopharyngeal. ***I am not an EMT and have had very basic trauma based (Gun Shots, Explosion, Car Accident, Kinfe related injuries) first aid*** |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 1:44:35 PM EDT
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Blow Out Kit.
Tourniquet (I prefer SOF) 6" Israeli Bandage (or 4" if you don't have the room) 50g Quick Clot Sponge (25g if you're tight on space) Compressed Gauze (two are better) Halo Seals (2 pack) If more than 5 items add: Nitrile Gloves (2 pr) 28fr NP airway and single serve lube packet Roll of 1" adhesive tape Sharpie Pen EMT Shears |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 9:27:44 PM EDT
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I'd add a CPR mask too. I have CAT tourniquet, SWAT-T, bandages, gloves, combat gauze, chest seals, nasopharyngeal airway, and tape. I have the above plus a couple emergency blankets and a SAM splint in my vehicle. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 10:29:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No one should be using a CPR mask anymore. AHA has gone to all compressions. ROCK6 |
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Posted: 3/21/2018 1:27:26 AM EDT
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I was thinking the same thing...thanks for the update and reminder. ROCK6 Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: No one should be using a CPR mask anymore. AHA has gone to all compressions. ROCK6 |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 12:40:13 AM EDT
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1. Has to be gloves. Have to protect myself from any weird things other people may have.
2. Gauze. I like Kerlix AMD antimicrobial gauze for my car kit and H&H flat packed gauze for carry. Lots of gauze comes in handy. 3. Coban self-adhesive wrap. I like this better than tape. Fabric tape would be a second choice. Duct tape would never be my choice. It doesn't stick when wet! 4. Tourniquet. I only have experience with CAT tourniquet, so that's what I carry. Believe there are different types that. 5. NPA |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 4:36:40 PM EDT
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CAT or SOF TQ
Israeli Bandage Gloves Halo seals Gauze roll/pads |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 5:21:57 PM EDT
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For me, with limited training/education, I go with a RECON tourniquet, shears, rolled gauze, gloves, and duct tape. I took an intro to traumatic injury care class, and they basically said that a chest seal is great if you have one, but in a pinch anything (plastic bag, duct tape, etc) will still help. I do intend on ordering some actual chest seals, but haven't got around to it. Thanks for the reminder!
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Posted: 5/2/2018 3:11:32 AM EDT
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Tourniquet Celox or similar Pressure bandage Chest seal Gloves (don’t take up much space) Decompression needle Nasopharyngeal Airway Duct tape |
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Posted: 5/2/2018 3:13:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, those two don't really belong in a go bag. The chance of it getting to that point is slim. IMHO |
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Posted: 5/2/2018 3:15:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those videos of people getting them inserted into their nose are ballsy
Our EMT class instructor wouldn't allow us to try it on someone. Had to use dummies.
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Posted: 5/2/2018 3:22:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No one should be using a CPR mask anymore. AHA has gone to all compressions. |
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Posted: 5/2/2018 4:49:28 PM EDT
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1. Has to be gloves. Have to protect myself from any weird things other people may have. 2. Gauze. I like Kerlix AMD antimicrobial gauze for my car kit and H&H flat packed gauze for carry. Lots of gauze comes in handy. 3. Coban self-adhesive wrap. I like this better than tape. Fabric tape would be a second choice. Duct tape would never be my choice. It doesn't stick when wet! 4. Tourniquet. I only have experience with CAT tourniquet, so that's what I carry. Believe there are different types that. 5. NPA |
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Posted: 5/13/2018 2:24:06 PM EDT
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Tourniquet
Israeli Bandage Celox, not Quikclot that shit will burn you Chest Seal NPA |
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Posted: 5/13/2018 4:11:24 PM EDT
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Unless you're bagging/O2 I guess. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: No one should be using a CPR mask anymore. AHA has gone to all compressions. |
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Posted: 5/15/2018 7:58:11 AM EDT
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Using your trauma kit. So, to bump this thread, my son emails me some pictures of his rifle as I'm over in Afghanistan. I split the cost of a Daniel Defense 15" rail for his AR and he put it on and took it to the range to zero (he's 19 years old). Anyways, he went to zero his rifle. It's a public range way out of the way in a national forest; about 45 minutes from our house. He tells me a couple gentlemen were there shooting and one had a small looking pistol, much like my Beretta 21A. My son witnesses the older gentleman blow his finger off at the tip. He described it as pretty messy, shredded and bits of fingernail all over. Fortunately, my son has an extensive FAK and was able to use some clotting gauze and wrapped up this finger and then they went to the nearest hospital.
My son has been through Infantry Basic and AIT and is Combat-Life-Saver qualified. He's more of a trigger-puller guy, but has really taken up preparation for having a blow-out kit on him at all times. He just finished his first year in college with an ROTC scholarship and as much as you would think he'd go medical, he's all Infantry  Still, he wants to take and get certified in a Tactical Combat Casualty Care course. If he has the propensity for it, I don't mind investing in his "tactical" education (I've already taken him to a few tactical rifle and pistol classes).We had a good discussion, safety being the primary topic More importantly, it's always being prepared or as prepared as you can be. Pretty proud of him, but it reinforces that having a trauma kit is pretty important and having it on you is a challenge, but essential.ROCK6 |
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Posted: 5/16/2018 9:06:34 PM EDT
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Yes, we do chest compressions, but some people just need ventilation. Maybe treating an overdose isn't part of your expectations, but a cpr mask is cheap insurance.
If there's more than one rescuer, you're doing both anyway. |
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Posted: 5/17/2018 7:18:38 AM EDT
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Yes, we do chest compressions, but some people just need ventilation. Maybe treating an overdose isn't part of your expectations, but a cpr mask is cheap insurance. If there's more than one rescuer, you're doing both anyway. |
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Posted: 5/17/2018 9:01:51 AM EDT
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Yes, we do chest compressions, but some people just need ventilation. Maybe treating an overdose isn't part of your expectations, but a cpr mask is cheap insurance. If there's more than one rescuer, you're doing both anyway. |
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Posted: 5/17/2018 10:04:03 AM EDT
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Yes, we do chest compressions, but some people just need ventilation. Maybe treating an overdose isn't part of your expectations, but a cpr mask is cheap insurance. If there's more than one rescuer, you're doing both anyway. 1) Kerlix for bleeding control or wound cover 2) Ace bandage for backup pressure dressing, immobilization 3) OLAES pressure bandage, covers chest seal, extra gauze, & eye shield as well 4) Small roll of duct tape on a cut off BIC pen unless you have some better tape 5) CAT or SOFTT-W Gloves are a given and don’t count. Since you’re saying top 5 this gets you more versatility. I’d really like to add Celox Rapid, an NPA, space blanket, second TQ, and Hyfin compact vented seals to a small kit but with the criteria you listed there’s what I suggest. |
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Posted: 5/19/2018 1:57:18 PM EDT
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at the risk of being called a racist, this yankee votes for
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Posted: 5/19/2018 1:58:11 PM EDT
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at the risk of being called a racist, this yankee votes for https://i1.wp.com/barnesreview.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Nathan-Bedford-Forrest.jpg?ssl=1 |
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Posted: 7/28/2018 10:17:45 AM EDT
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The items I keep in the top of my Maxped Jumbo (the pouch on the flap) ....
Combat Application Tourniquet Israeli Compression Bandage Quick Clot Nasopharyngeal Airway with Lube Duct Tape (just roll some up on a business card ...) |
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Posted: 7/28/2018 10:22:32 AM EDT
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My bag also has other "EDC" items that can be pressed into "trauma" service if needed ....
Busse Active Duty knife Spyderco Paramilitary 2 knife Bandana 95# and 325# paracord (thinner versions of the typical 550 stuff) Adhesive bandaids Antibactieral wipes Hand sanitizer (small spray bottle) Mylar space blanket The Maxped Jumbo has a Maxped "Janis" attached to the shoulder strap which has a spare QuickClot Sport in it. The Janis is small enough to be carried around separately if I want to leave the Jumbo in the vehicle. The Janis isn't large enough to carry a TQ or I'd have a CAT in it. However, I view the Janis as a "basic survival kit" and as such it has at least one form of a Hemostatic in it. |
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Posted: 8/7/2018 7:57:24 AM EDT
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Have you taken a trauma class? It makes the kit a lot easier to use. |
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Posted: 8/8/2018 11:49:40 PM EDT
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Top 5? Ehh
Tourniquets Pressure Dressings Quick Clot 2 rolls medical tape Trauma shears |
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Posted: 8/10/2018 9:58:52 AM EDT
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How about plain 'ol cayenne pepper?
as a wound clotter. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 7:44:08 PM EDT
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My bleed kits are basically:
CAT tourniquettes Combat Gauze packs More gauze easy to pull from roll Israeli bandages chest seals I have a separate boo boo kit along generally. My run & gun competition kit for my belt also has npg and decomp needle in case someone who knows more than me needs to work on me in an accident. |
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Posted: 8/21/2018 6:54:08 PM EDT
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So how important is emt scissors in a small kit?
If people are going with no scissors, do you just plan on ripping clothes around the wound area? |
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