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Posted: 5/17/2023 7:18:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Former11BRAVO: Bee Castle and Hoover, yes. As an aside, the GF just went out and got the better part of a giant swarm 20' up in one of our trees. She taped a box to a telescoping window-washer we have and knocked the bees from the branch into the box - then, put them in an empty hive with a frame of honey. She didn't see the queen, but hopes she'll be "notified" of the sexy new digs available..! LOL Small world. One of my friends is the owner of Hoover Hives. |
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Posted: 5/17/2023 7:23:16 PM EDT
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Frost advisory tonight in central Ohio, pulled all the containers out to cover what we could.
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Posted: 5/17/2023 10:20:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rifleman_556: It was dropped onto a dozer track after (I'm assuming) a lifetime of abuse I'm buying Ridgid cordless tools now instead of Milwaukee due to the warranty  More and more, I'm hearing good things about Ridgid. |
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Posted: 5/17/2023 10:21:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ZW17: Frost advisory tonight in central Ohio, pulled all the containers out to cover what we could. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36030/IMG_0300-2820031.jpg Wow. It's a weird spring. Although...is this normal for y'all? |
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Posted: 5/17/2023 11:03:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs: Wow. It's a weird spring. Although...is this normal for y'all? I’ve been planting gardens on Mothers Day weekend for years and I cannot remember ever having to worry about frost. This is not normal. |
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Posted: 5/17/2023 11:52:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ZW17: I’ve been planting gardens on Mothers Day weekend for years and I cannot remember ever having to worry about frost. This is not normal. Two or three years ago we had a hard freeze on Mother's Day Weekend. I'm in Southern KY. Only 40 minutes north of Nashville, TN. It is the first time *I* can remember having a hard freeze that late. But my mom and grandmother talked about late spring hard freezes. They worried about the trees. They had seen trees killed by freezes as late as middle of May. My grandmother was born in 1908. My mom born in 1927. So it is very interesting to see the cycles. Three generations (I was born VERY late in life. My mom was 37 when I was born in October 1964. She was on birth control in February so I figure I was meant to be here.) Anyway..All those generations and hearing them talk about what they saw, taught me to not trust "spring". So a lot of folks lost their gardens when that Mother's Day freeze occurred. I had just a few things to cover. I generally start a little late because of my upbringing. HOWEVER...I would have thought that where you live, you would normally see frosts in mid-May. I am surprised. |
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Posted: 5/18/2023 5:21:14 AM EDT
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Well, it went from a frost to a freeze warning.
 
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Posted: 5/18/2023 8:15:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs: Two or three years ago we had a hard freeze on Mother's Day Weekend. I'm in Southern KY. Only 40 minutes north of Nashville, TN. It is the first time *I* can remember having a hard freeze that late. But my mom and grandmother talked about late spring hard freezes. They worried about the trees. They had seen trees killed by freezes as late as middle of May. My grandmother was born in 1908. My mom born in 1927. So it is very interesting to see the cycles. Three generations (I was born VERY late in life. My mom was 37 when I was born in October 1964. She was on birth control in February so I figure I was meant to be here.) Anyway..All those generations and hearing them talk about what they saw, taught me to not trust "spring". So a lot of folks lost their gardens when that Mother's Day freeze occurred. I had just a few things to cover. I generally start a little late because of my upbringing. HOWEVER...I would have thought that where you live, you would normally see frosts in mid-May. I am surprised. I've seen 1 freeze after mother's day. My grandfather won't plant any tender crops until after Memorial Day- he remembers it snowing in June a few times. He was born 1926 so it may have been awhile After 3 seasons where the garden was pretty much a failure, I've made a discovery. At the farm, the growing season is right in line with the rest of the county. At the house, the season is short and late. I can grow some summer crops into October  Same county, but I'm only half joking when I say I live in Death Valley. We mow the yard half as much as the rest of the county, and always see warmer temps and more humidity. One would think this would help the garden, but no such luck. The lack of soil in general (all rock) and constant blistering heat just means everything withers and dies |
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Posted: 5/18/2023 5:00:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ZW17: Well, it went from a frost to a freeze warning. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36030/IMG_0303-2820363.jpg Just a head's up. You can use bed sheets or plastic sheeting to cover the plants also to protect from frost. It would suck to lose all those plants that aren't covered! |
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Posted: 5/18/2023 6:54:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nobody69s: @ZW17 Just a head's up. You can use bed sheets or plastic sheeting to cover the plants also to protect from frost. It would suck to lose all those plants that aren't covered! We survived! We got to about 34° last night with zero frost. Went out as the sun came up and watered everything. High of 72° today and the future only gets warmer. I was going to use visqueen but they are very small plants and it was windy, it would have snapped stems. Really the only thing I was worried about was the tomatoes and peppers I started from seed two months ago. Everything else I could start again with plenty of time. Thanks for looking out brother. |
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Posted: 5/18/2023 7:54:24 PM EDT
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Glad to hear it!
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Posted: 5/20/2023 12:07:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rifleman_556: I've seen 1 freeze after mother's day. My grandfather won't plant any tender crops until after Memorial Day- he remembers it snowing in June a few times. He was born 1926 so it may have been awhile After 3 seasons where the garden was pretty much a failure, I've made a discovery. At the farm, the growing season is right in line with the rest of the county. At the house, the season is short and late. I can grow some summer crops into October Same county, but I'm only half joking when I say I live in Death Valley. We mow the yard half as much as the rest of the county, and always see warmer temps and more humidity. One would think this would help the garden, but no such luck. The lack of soil in general (all rock) and constant blistering heat just means everything withers and dies You have a perfect example of a microclimate. They occur even within yards. I have one in the back of my house, about 50 feet back in the yard. The lawn drops only 2 or three feet across that 50 feet, but it's enough that the wind, howling all over the property, goes right over that part of the yard. It's warmer there. Gentler. I could lay a tarp out there and it might blow around a little, but it won't be gone across the neighbor's fence. In the front yard? The trees lean toward the east all the time cuz...they grew that way from the wind. Yours is extreme and bigger. Would be really interesting to figure out why. (Other than the rock). The rock can make it warmer, but why is the season shorter and late? This stuff is fascinating. |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 12:11:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ZW17: We survived! We got to about 34° last night with zero frost. Went out as the sun came up and watered everything. High of 72° today and the future only gets warmer. I was going to use visqueen but they are very small plants and it was windy, it would have snapped stems. Really the only thing I was worried about was the tomatoes and peppers I started from seed two months ago. Everything else I could start again with plenty of time. Thanks for looking out brother. Good to hear!  My dad used to grow his tomato seedlings in big old galvanized tubs that no longer held water. The big ones...like 20 or 30 gallons. He would put plastic over the top, then switch to tobacco canvas as it warmed up. He kept those tubs of plants LONG after he had already planted the garden...just in case. Now I know why he didn't ditch the extra plants. 
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Posted: 5/20/2023 2:26:21 PM EDT
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Well, I think next year I will try a new tactic in my "garden". I don't have a real garden now, just a few raised beds and a few things in buckets. Next year I am going to plant bermuda and johnson grass. If it works, I should have more carrots, lettuce, and tomatoes than I know what to do with.
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Posted: 5/20/2023 2:28:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs: You have a perfect example of a microclimate. They occur even within yards. I have one in the back of my house, about 50 feet back in the yard. The lawn drops only 2 or three feet across that 50 feet, but it's enough that the wind, howling all over the property, goes right over that part of the yard. It's warmer there. Gentler. I could lay a tarp out there and it might blow around a little, but it won't be gone across the neighbor's fence. In the front yard? The trees lean toward the east all the time cuz...they grew that way from the wind. Yours is extreme and bigger. Would be really interesting to figure out why. (Other than the rock). The rock can make it warmer, but why is the season shorter and late? This stuff is fascinating. Well, the actual land elevation is no different than much of the surrounding area, but there's about 20 acres (we own 6) that has a ridge around 3 sides. The 4th side is open but there's another ridgeline just past the road in that effectively walls it off. We still get all the wind, but I can watch the storms roll in from the southeast and just... turn and miss us. Same if the closest town gets slammed by a storm- I can watch it move from west to east and see the rain maybe 1/2 mile away but we never get a drop. We still get rain, just not when everyone else does. Also if everything isn't baking to death it drowns- when it rains the humidity stays above 70% and it feels like a jungle. Then it dries up and goes back to being Death Valley It always gets colder in the winter too. We had 0° and -30° wind chill right after Christmas while the farm only had 10° and -10° wind chill Also nearly had a tornado once, the clouds got that eerie green color and you could feel the wind changing directions and blowing in a circle |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 11:14:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SixpackinOk: Well, I think next year I will try a new tactic in my "garden". I don't have a real garden now, just a few raised beds and a few things in buckets. Next year I am going to plant bermuda and johnson grass. If it works, I should have more carrots, lettuce, and tomatoes than I know what to do with.  I understand this! |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 11:17:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rifleman_556: Well, the actual land elevation is no different than much of the surrounding area, but there's about 20 acres (we own 6) that has a ridge around 3 sides. The 4th side is open but there's another ridgeline just past the road in that effectively walls it off. We still get all the wind, but I can watch the storms roll in from the southeast and just... turn and miss us. Same if the closest town gets slammed by a storm- I can watch it move from west to east and see the rain maybe 1/2 mile away but we never get a drop. We still get rain, just not when everyone else does. Also if everything isn't baking to death it drowns- when it rains the humidity stays above 70% and it feels like a jungle. Then it dries up and goes back to being Death Valley It always gets colder in the winter too. We had 0° and -30° wind chill right after Christmas while the farm only had 10° and -10° wind chill Also nearly had a tornado once, the clouds got that eerie green color and you could feel the wind changing directions and blowing in a circle Yes. I have only one bit of advice. If you can find any old people who have lived in that "bowl" for decades, go and get to know them. Take them a pie. (Or pumpkin bread) and tell them you are their neighbor and would like to ask them some questions about gardening. Then just shut up and listen, and make appropriate noises, and ask appropriate questions if the noises don't solicit more talking. Look at the photos of their kids and grandkids. Drink their tea. They will tell you how to garden in that bowl. 
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Posted: 5/30/2023 8:32:06 PM EDT
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Summer arrives this week it seems.
Was a cool, wet spring here in South Central KY. In other news, got the first decent watermelon of the season.  Tried two earlier. Wastes of money. 
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Posted: 5/31/2023 10:18:58 PM EDT
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Regulars, bump your ongoing threads. It appears we have lost some page space.
I know Goatboy is working on some things, but I know this is not intentional, but when they start changing things up, glitches happen. |
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Posted: 6/19/2023 10:18:26 PM EDT
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I think one of my poor chickens died of heat stroke this afternoon. Alive this morning, apparently laid an egg (7 chickens, 7 eggs).
6 hens on the roost and one dead on the ground in the coop when I went to shut them up for the night.  Air temp high has been over 100 the past week. But they have plenty of water and food. No signs of critter attack. Just laying there dead. |
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Posted: 6/19/2023 10:39:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1Andy2: I think one of my poor chickens died of heat stroke this afternoon. Alive this morning, apparently laid an egg (7 chickens, 7 eggs). 6 hens on the roost and one dead on the ground in the coop when I went to shut them up for the night. Air temp high has been over 100 the past week. But they have plenty of water and food. No signs of critter attack. Just laying there dead. You kind of get attached to them from what I've noticed. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 7:59:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1Andy2: I think one of my poor chickens died of heat stroke this afternoon. Alive this morning, apparently laid an egg (7 chickens, 7 eggs). 6 hens on the roost and one dead on the ground in the coop when I went to shut them up for the night. Air temp high has been over 100 the past week. But they have plenty of water and food. No signs of critter attack. Just laying there dead. My brother and his wife had that problem one time. Chickens just started falling over dead, but this was the middle of the day. We ran some extensions cords and fans and got the chickens in the shade and it took care of the problem. If you can get a fan out to where the chickens are it may save some of them. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 8:50:21 AM EDT
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Ventilation is key for chickens. If you can't get electric out there for a fan, maybe one of those roof turbines up near the peak would do it.
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Posted: 6/20/2023 10:27:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SixpackinOk: My brother and his wife had that problem one time. Chickens just started falling over dead, but this was the middle of the day. We ran some extensions cords and fans and got the chickens in the shade and it took care of the problem. If you can get a fan out to where the chickens are it may save some of them. Yeah, I just set up a box fan to help circulate the air in the coop. Only 1 egg today for 6 chickens. Not eating much feed, either. I think the heat is definitely getting to them. |
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Posted: 6/26/2023 3:23:47 PM EDT
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Put an exhaust fan in one of our coops. I got it from a buddy. I think it is 12 in. thermostat controlled. Set it to come on at 85 degrees. Works good and chickens seem happy.
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Posted: 6/26/2023 6:03:57 PM EDT
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I apologize for being AWOL the past three weeks.
I spilled wine on my computer.  Got it back, but have to reload everything and start fresh.
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Posted: 6/26/2023 7:02:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs: I apologize for being AWOL the past three weeks. I spilled wine on my computer. Got it back, but have to reload everything and start fresh. That will be 3 lashes with a wet noodle for wasting good wine...that stinks having to start all over on your computer. |
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Posted: 6/26/2023 7:32:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SixpackinOk: That will be 3 lashes with a wet noodle for wasting good wine...that stinks having to start all over on your computer. I know, right? All these years I've been VERY careful when I have a water bottle, glass of tea or lemonade...or wine. Odds finally caught up with me in the form of a fly that was aggravating me. I swatted and misjudged. |
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Posted: 6/26/2023 9:52:50 PM EDT
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That sucks!
Glad you're back. So the other day I thought my chickens were only laying one egg a day between the three of them. Reached down below the nesting boxes and found 9 eggs haha! |
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Posted: 6/27/2023 5:14:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nobody69s: That sucks! Glad you're back. So the other day I thought my chickens were only laying one egg a day between the three of them. Reached down below the nesting boxes and found 9 eggs haha! Ha! They were hiding them. Maybe one is broody!
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Posted: 7/1/2023 9:31:49 PM EDT
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Y'all check in when you can.
Lots of storms all through the country. Lots of damage. I can think of tornadoes in Little Rock, another town in Arkansas, some in Kansas and the Texas Panhandle, as well as Oklahoma just in the past three weeks or so. We had two folks killed by a tree falling on a car this week, just one county north of us. One adult and a (I think small) child. This weather has been troublesome of late. Let us know y'all are okay. |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 10:03:21 PM EDT
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We're supposed to get a thunderstorm, in about an hour...
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Posted: 7/1/2023 10:37:23 PM EDT
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The bad stuff has missed my area for the most part. We have had some bad winds, but everything has been ok. I did have a big tree topped off by my house a few weeks ago, I'm sure glad I finally did it, because the winds may have got part of it this the last big storm.
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Posted: 7/1/2023 10:49:17 PM EDT
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Super dry up in WI.
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:21:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nobody69s: Super dry up in WI. Fireworks tonight and on the 4th might be starting some fires... I really hope not. Plenty of fires across Canada and the North US as it is. Praying for y'all. We were very, very dry, although not severe drought, down here in Kentucky until this past week. Now we've gotten some sprinkles, a few light showers, and past two days, some really good heavy rains. We needed it. I am grateful. Fireworks all around us here. Glad we don't have to worry about the fire aspect. |
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Posted: 7/2/2023 8:13:37 AM EDT
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We had a thunderstorm, for about an hour. Nothing damaging, and we got some much-needed water.
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Posted: 7/2/2023 9:08:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nobody69s: Super dry up in WI. Fireworks tonight and on the 4th might be starting some fires... Hopefully people will be smart enough about using fireworks to not start any fires. Hey, a guy can dream...the fireworks akways worry me during a drought, thankfully I think we should be ok here. Stay safe! |
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Posted: 7/2/2023 12:01:50 PM EDT
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Salem Illinois area
Storms from about 6-8pm No loss of power Small branches down here and there….nothing major |
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Posted: 7/2/2023 6:49:40 PM EDT
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Hasn't rained here in like 3 months
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Posted: 7/2/2023 8:43:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 67Firebird: We had a thunderstorm, for about an hour. Nothing damaging, and we got some much-needed water. So glad! We've been having thundershowers all week here. I hate big thunderstorms with damaging wind and hail, but a nice, slow thundershower without big wind is my favorite kind of weather. We are having one now. That slow, rolling thunder and Cloud Crawler lightning, with a gentle rain, makes me sleep like nothing else. |
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Posted: 7/2/2023 8:44:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1Andy2: Hasn't rained here in like 3 months That's bad. Will pray y'all get some. |
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Posted: 7/2/2023 10:29:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs: That's bad. Will pray y'all get some. Thank you. I hope ya'll are doing ok with storms. I'm thankful I'm a bit too far south for real tornado worries and just a hair too far inland for much hurricane risk. As you can see... mowing has been simplified.  Attached FileStill need to get the permanent irrigation in. Was going to just dig by hand but I hurt my back the other day and decided I'm getting too old to be a cheapskate. Going to rent a trencher. |
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Posted: 7/2/2023 10:48:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1Andy2: Thank you. I hope ya'll are doing ok with storms. I'm thankful I'm a bit too far south for real tornado worries and just a hair too far inland for much hurricane risk. As you can see... mowing has been simplified. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/55344/20230702_194037_jpg-2871803.JPG Still need to get the permanent irrigation in. Was going to just dig by hand but I hurt my back the other day and decided I'm getting too old to be a cheapskate. Going to rent a trencher. Oh, trenching irrigation by hand is HORRIBLE. A trencher will make you much happier. So sorry you hurt you back. More sorry that you are in drought. As many storms as have come through Tejas the past month, I'm surprised you haven't had rain. We went through a VERY dry May and June, and just this past week started getting decent rains again. We are grateful. |
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Posted: 7/2/2023 11:06:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs: Oh, trenching irrigation by hand is HORRIBLE. A trencher will make you much happier. So sorry you hurt you back. More sorry that you are in drought. As many storms as have come through Tejas the past month, I'm surprised you haven't had rain. We went through a VERY dry May and June, and just this past week started getting decent rains again. We are grateful. Yep, its been hard on the farmers. Drove past alot of what looks like total loss corn and cotton crops this summer. I'm glad ya'll are doing better. Kentucky doesn't seem like its known for prolonged droughts. I think most of those storms Texas got were further north. Hard to describe but Texas has kinda 4 or 5 distinct geography/climate zones. I'm on the coastal plain in the border zone between South Texas and East Texas. We get about 29 inches average rainfall here... but an hour north east of here, they get average 41 inches per year! Another 1.5 hours further NE and you're in Houston dodging hurricanes dropping 80 inches in a couple of days (Harvey literally dropped that much directly on Houston in 48 hours). |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 1:31:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1Andy2: Thank you. I hope ya'll are doing ok with storms. I'm thankful I'm a bit too far south for real tornado worries and just a hair too far inland for much hurricane risk. As you can see... mowing has been simplified. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/55344/20230702_194037_jpg-2871803.JPG Still need to get the permanent irrigation in. Was going to just dig by hand but I hurt my back the other day and decided I'm getting too old to be a cheapskate. Going to rent a trencher. That's not getting too old, that's just getting smarter.
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Posted: 7/5/2023 3:04:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1Andy2: Yep, its been hard on the farmers. Drove past alot of what looks like total loss corn and cotton crops this summer. I'm glad ya'll are doing better. Kentucky doesn't seem like its known for prolonged droughts. I think most of those storms Texas got were further north. Hard to describe but Texas has kinda 4 or 5 distinct geography/climate zones. I'm on the coastal plain in the border zone between South Texas and East Texas. We get about 29 inches average rainfall here... but an hour north east of here, they get average 41 inches per year! Another 1.5 hours further NE and you're in Houston dodging hurricanes dropping 80 inches in a couple of days (Harvey literally dropped that much directly on Houston in 48 hours). Kentucky averages about 60" of rain. When I was a kid, it was 63" but they now say 60. And the thing is, with that much rain, it takes very little drought to put us into the severe category. Twice in my life I have seen it not rain for almost three months. It was the worst disaster I've ever been through, and that's counting tornadoes, snowpocalypses, and the insane flooding just a few years back when Opryland, Nashville, TN was under water. We fairly often have a one-month drought, and that's pretty bad for us, but three months means even the irrigation we can provide is not enough. You just can't water that much when the air itself is crispy crunchy. |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 1:40:11 AM EDT
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I suspect a big part of the problem is that when it hasn't rained for 3 months or more, the ground around and under what you're trying to irrigate is so dry that it sucks up alot of the moisture you put in.
I'm running my fruit tree lines longer and longer to (hopefully) compensate. We've got some cracks around the yard you could drop your keys into and lose them. |
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Posted: 7/6/2023 6:43:39 PM EDT
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Whatever you're saying, keep it up Kitties. Got some sprinkles last night and this morning. Not huge but helpful.
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Posted: 7/7/2023 9:20:41 PM EDT
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Finally getting some rain in SWLA. Been super dry up until this week. I haven't watered my veggies since Monday.
Zucchini plants are putting on tons of foliage but little to no veggies. Tomatoes aren't doing much either, I think I have 5 between 3 plants. Need to hit everything with Miracle Grow again I guess. |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 5:17:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1Andy2: Whatever you're saying, keep it up Kitties. Got some sprinkles last night and this morning. Not huge but helpful. So glad! It is amazing how quickly it dries out, even when you are having semi-regular rains. It was raining some every day here last week...storms all through the holiday weekend into Monday, then it cleared off and here we are, five days later, and I'm having to water. Containers dry out quickly of course, but the ground is also hard again. Storms all around us, but just getting sprinkles so far. Could use another good Thundershower and I will keep asking for y'all. When you are that dry, even a drop or two is a blessing. |
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